Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: 1 Day Remaining, Who Else?

[ChaoticOrange]

In no world is Yakupov worth a 1st. He'd be lucky to fetch a 4th.

You understand that we just got a 3rd for possibly the worst defenceman at defence in the entire NHL?

 

[Senor Catface]

In no world is Yakupov worth a 1st. He'd be lucky to fetch a 4th.

There is no basis for this. RFA years, the blindness of potential that GM's see, still young...

 

[Bryanbryoil]

In no world is Yakupov worth a 1st. He'd be lucky to fetch a 4th.

Then you may as well keep him and hope that he turns things around.

 

[PBandJ]

Probably should just hold on to Yak and pray he figures it out. At this point, any GM that gives up significant assets for him deserves to be fired.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

I see no reason to dump yak now.

Play him with mcdavid the rest of the season and see how he does.

You either keep him and have a cheaper replacement for eberle on his wing, or he gets some points and might fetch us a slightly better pick.

 

[RebuildTheRebuild]

Is Spec wrong here though?

I don't know if its worth trading Yak for picks. I wonder though if we can trade him in a similar deal that saw us get Perron. Paajarvi was worse offensively than Yak so I think Yak would have a BIT more value (I stress a bit).

 

[Aerchon]

Yaks current value is a third at best I would put money on that.

Purcell is clearly better.

Hudler only got a second and fourth and has a solid track record.

Maybe you could get a late second for Yak from someone that doesn't watch him often or only seen him good.

In the summer his value could go up especially if he remembers how to score between now and then.

 

[Seachd]

Is Spec wrong here though?

I'd say so. Dumping Yakupov for picks when he doesn't have a bad contract or isn't hurting the team seems pretty brainless.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

In no world is Yakupov worth a 1st. He'd be lucky to fetch a 4th.

No way. Yak still has considerable potential. The dude is 22.

 

[GMofOilers]

I don't know if its worth trading Yak for picks. I wonder though if we can trade him in a similar deal that saw us get Perron. Paajarvi was worse offensively than Yak so I think Yak would have a BIT more value (I stress a bit).

I have no clue, I would think Yak still has a roster player in value? Gotta think so?

With all the talk going on with Yak, its fair to say hes a goner though weather we like it or not?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Yaks current value is a third at best I would put money on that.

Purcell is clearly better.

Hudler only got a second and fourth and has a solid track record.

Maybe you could get a late second for Yak from someone that doesn't watch him often or only seen him good.

In the summer his value could go up especially if he remembers how to score between now and then.

Rentals vs. guy with more RFA years beyond his contract. Hardly the same.

 

[rasarhdasd]

He's going to get dumped for a 2nd isn't he.

 

[Narnia]

Lots of people bad mouth the Oilers.
They are the joke of the league in case you haven't noticed.
Whitney has as much reason as anyone else given that he actually wore the jersey and had to deal with clowns in the organization on a personal level.
I think we need to bring back ConYak.

Are you referring to Krueger when you talk about clowns? Krueger blamed Whitney for everything and gave other defensemen a free ride when they made mistakes.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

Yaks current value is a third at best I would put money on that.

Purcell is clearly better.

Hudler only got a second and fourth and has a solid track record.

Maybe you could get a late second for Yak from someone that doesn't watch him often or only seen him good.

In the summer his value could go up especially if he remembers how to score between now and then.

I would bet you $1000 that Yak doesn't go for a third or less. I can't say I'm 100% sure but it just seems like horrific asset management.

 

[Spawn]

Remember that Brett Connolly was able to land two 2nd round picks.

I don't think it's entirely unrealistic that a playoff team with a higher pick would deal it for Yakupov.

He's on a cheap deal right now, too.

That being said, I think I'm ready to move on from Yak now. I'd gladly take a 1st for him. I know some people will shake their heads at this never ending cycling of trading players for picks but Yak is not gonna work here. And that 1st can be a valuable trade chip/deal sweetener for a very very good D man down the road.

K, but it was our GM that paid two 2nd rounders for Connolly haha. Just because he was willing to make a bad trade doesn't make someone else will be.

 

[Jejune]

I have no clue, I would think Yak still has a roster player in value? Gotta think so?

With all the talk going on with Yak, its fair to say hes a goner though weather we like it or not?

Hope not. If it's for picks, might as well keep him and hope he actually gets some confidence. The skill is there and the drive is there, he just needs to put up the stats to back up the good games and make a few less mistakes in the bad games. I believe he can do it.

I only trade him if the return is an improvement to the roster (and no, this is not a case of addition by subtraction)

 

[Jet Walters]

Deadline deals....

Yak, Reinhart, Fayne, 2016 2nd for Edler and Hansen

Hendricks for a 4th

Korpikoski 500k retained for a 4th


Draft deals......

Eberle and Nurse for Hamonic and Lee

RNH for Pacioretty

Hall for Bjugstad and Crouse

Draft Laine if picking 2nd. Trade the pick for a powerforward like Simmonds + if 3-5

July- Offer sheet Sami Vatanen at 6 years 5.2 mil (1st and 3rd) or trade 2017 1st, Slepyshev, Simpson for him.

Lee McDavid Simmonds/Laine
Pacioretty Draisaitl Hansen
Pouliot Bjugstad Kassian
Khaira/Crouse Letestu Pakarinen/Lander

Klefbom Hamonic
Edler Sekera
Davidson Vatanen

Talbot
Brossoit

Total cap hit around 67 million with full 3.75 cap hits to McDavid/Draisaitl/Laine. Davidson and KAssian at 2M, Vatanen at 5.2

 

[belair]

Yaks current value is a third at best I would put money on that.

Purcell is clearly better.

Hudler only got a second and fourth and has a solid track record.

Maybe you could get a late second for Yak from someone that doesn't watch him often or only seen him good.

In the summer his value could go up especially if he remembers how to score between now and then.

Purcell is 30. Hudler is 32. Both are UFAs.

Yakupov is 22 and is making $2.5m next season and is still an RFA.

At Yakupov's age Purcell had all of 19 points in the NHL. Hudler was just breaking into the league. Very different values.

 

[SDig14]

I don't think anyone here truly knows his actual value league wide.

But to trade him for less than either a 1st round pick, a young struggling player with upside like him or a guy also under 25 years old who needs a change of scenery makes no sense. None.

He's actually been better lately and doesn't make very much money. Let him continue to develop at least on the 3rd line, he's not hurting anyone right now IMO. His big mistakes defensively are getting less frequent IMO.

 

[harpoon]

I don't get how popping a few gravy goals with McD launches Eberle into this 'can't move him' tier in some people's minds. We're averaging like 1.5 goals a game during this streak. Eberle and McDavid are not inseparably tied.

Statement loses credibility when bias shines through.
The goals Eberle scored recently were EV goals.
They were against good teams fighting for playoff positions.
The goals Eberle scored were the only ones the team managed.
There are no gravy goals in Edmonton.

I challenge you to find one poster saying Eberle is in a "can't move him tier".
There are no such posts. Why the exaggeration?

Are you referring to Krueger when you talk about clowns? Krueger blamed Whitney for everything and gave other defensemen a free ride when they made mistakes.

No. I'm referring to Katz, Lowe, MacT, Howson etc etc.
Imagine having to eat up that smug crap in person, on a daily basis.

 

[GMofOilers]

Dam Spec doesnt think Yak is worth much at all.

I really actually hope he is wrong

 

[Cerebral]

If we're going to trade Yakupov, I'd much rather move him for a similarly struggling young player rather than a 2nd round draft pick. While Yakupov's value is incredibly low right now, I'd rather hold on to him than simply get a mid-second round pick. On the other hand, if we could get a guy like Nichuskin (or someone similar) for him, I'd be all for that.

 

[Seachd]

Dam Spec doesnt think Yak is worth much at all.

I really actually hope he is wrong

Well it's not like he's ever proven himself to know anything, so we might be safe there.

 

[GMofOilers]

Well it's not like he's ever proven himself to know anything, so we might be safe there.

True then you have a proven guy saying after saying maybe 2 2nds. Usually wheres theres smoke there is fire.

 

[TheBusDriver]

Is Spec wrong here though?

Spec is usually wrong.