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[belair]

I'd have some interest in signing one of Brian Elliot or Chad Johnson.

Not as a starter of course, but I think you could get 20 good starts from either one so that Talbot isn't played to death again. How confident are we in Broissoit really? I don't want to end up in the same situation again next year.

Johnson's not a bad fall-back. But the book is out on him.

I think Halak is a guy that could make sense as well as part of an expanded deal. He's only got one year left on his deal and I'd assume NYI would give some value up taking that kind of cap off of their hands.

In regards to Broissoit we're either keen on him or we're not though. His numbers were decent this season, but is he ready to stick it out for 20 or so games next year?

 

[Soundwave]

Johnson's not a bad fall-back. But the book is out on him.

I think Halak is a guy that could make sense as well as part of an expanded deal. He's only got one year left on his deal and I'd assume NYI would give some value up taking that kind of cap off of their hands.

In regards to Broissoit we're either keen on him or we're not though. His numbers were decent this season, but is he ready to stick it out for 20 or so games next year?

I'd offer Elliott a 1 year deal at 2 mill or Johnson 1 year at 1.5. Halak is a bit too pricey for a guy who's going to be sitting on the bench 62 times.

 

[John Connor McDavid]

I see no reason to make big changes at this time. Lets see how the playoffs go. Right now we have a big, fast, physical, puck moving team. I'm not sure what more we could really ask for.

Nurse -Benning is a pairing that can grow together in a non rushed environment behind Larsson klef sek and whoever.

On the Reinhart front, I'm very glad he took a step forward this season. If he can commit to skating training this summer and work hard on his overall mobility, he could be a very nice surprise for the team next season.

It's easy to get complacent - but unless we are winning Cups I think we should be working on streamlining our cap usage and taking advantage of space to upgrade where we can.

Klefbom-Larsson are only going to improve as a pairing.
Sekera-Russell are at their peak IMO. They will not get better - if there's an upgrade available via trade to replace Russell we should take full advantage (I'm talking a big fish with solid 2-way 40pt potential; somewhere between Leddy to OEL).

Eberle, Pouliot, RNH are potential "cuts" for us heading forward (trade, expansion, etc).
I'd like to get a more traditional "shutdown" center for the 3rd - a bigger body and faceoff specialist. Someone like Antoine Vermette would be great in this role.

If we are able to grab some veteran wing depth (Versteeg, etc) to aid our young C's it would help a lot (and give us some patience to work with JP).

Another consideration is moving Maroon while his value is high and replacing his production with a "low-value" UFA. Someone like Drew Stafford has better hands and skating than Maroon and would likely reach his 30-goal totals from before as his winger. A 3yr, 3.25M type deal would lock him up rather than overpaying Maroon on an extension.

Another consideration is a legit NHL backup - look at how Pitt is surviving this 1st round with Murray out. This will get you 2-3 extra wins a year during the season and be a huge insurance policy for playoffs.

Stafford McDavid Versteeg
Lucic Draisaitl Puljujarvi
Caggiula [Vermette] Kassian
Slepyshev Letestu Pitlick

Klefbom Larsson
[Leddy/OEL] Sekera
Nurse Benning

Talbot
[Halak]

This opens up cap space for upcoming extensions for the likes of McDavid, Draisaitl, Talbot in the years to come.

 

[belair]

I'd offer Elliott a 1 year deal at 2 mill or Johnson 1 year at 1.5. Halak is a bit too pricey for a guy who's going to be sitting on the bench 62 times.

I agree, but he'd be essentially a salary dump in a larger deal to increase the potential return. I still don't like the idea of moving him yet, but if one of the $6m forwards goes I'd aim for a deal like Eberle/Betker for Strome/Halak/Prospect. Prospect being either Pulock or MDC, my personal preference.

This way we're only really adding $1m to the cap for a year and we're adding a high-end prospect for taking on some of their dead cap for a guy we can use.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

A question I'd be asking this offseason is who is the ideal partner for Nurse? My reasoning behind this is you already know Klefbom-Larsson work well as a top pair, same with Sekera-Benning, who have also had success together.

Now I'm not talking about a Fayne or Russell level guy, but someone whom you could pair with Nurse and actually have them be able to take on top 4 level competition (essentially another Sekrea). Even if this comes at the cost of the 1st and/or a prospect like Jones. I know a few people want a proper RH offensive defenceman, but for Nurse I'd think you'd be better off to get a solid, no thrills, 2 way guy so Nurse can continue to work on growing his game with a proper vet support. This means I'd avoid high event guys like Vatanen, Green, Dumba, and Barrie.


I wonder if after Hamonic's season NYI would be more open to dealing him, or perhaps Winnipeg would be open to dealing Myers in order to open up money for Trouba, Bogosian would be another possibility. In UFA waters Stone also catches my eye.


Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Benning
Nurse-Hamonic/Myers/Stone


Even going after Myers (the priciest guy I listed), you'd still have a relatively inexpensive defence. No high end guy, but you've got a legit top pairing and two 2nd pairings that can more than hold their own.

 

[oilers89]

Don't want to look to far head to the offseason as playoffs are going on. But with rumors that dallas could trade Eakins it got me thinking about a few options for the offeason.

1.Trade for Eakins
2. We need a RHD D man ( preferably a puck mover) Options include Green, ellis, dumba, harmonic. Use eberle, picks and prospects
3. Sign a scoring RW for Mcdavid.

Maroon Mcdavid Oshie?
Lucic Drai RNH
Cag Eakins slep/pulj
Khaira Letestu Kass

Klef Lars
Sek green/dumba/ellis?
Nurse Benning

 

[Paralyzer]

Don't want to look to far head to the offseason as playoffs are going on. But with rumors that dallas could trade Eakins it got me thinking about a few options for the offeason.

1.Trade for Eakins
2. We need a RHD D man ( preferably a puck mover) Options include Green, ellis, dumba, harmonic. Use eberle, picks and prospects
3. Sign a scoring RW for Mcdavid.

Maroon Mcdavid Oshie?
Lucic Drai RNH
Cag Eakins slep/pulj
Khaira Letestu Kass

Klef Lars
Sek green/dumba/ellis?
Nurse Benning

You didn't put those words in the same sentence...how dare you

 

[Red Deer Rebel]

Don't want to look to far head to the offseason as playoffs are going on. But with rumors that dallas could trade Eakins it got me thinking about a few options for the offeason.

1.Trade for Eakins
2. We need a RHD D man ( preferably a puck mover) Options include Green, ellis, dumba, harmonic. Use eberle, picks and prospects
3. Sign a scoring RW for Mcdavid.

Maroon Mcdavid Oshie?
Lucic Drai RNH
Cag Eakins slep/pulj
Khaira Letestu Kass

Klef Lars
Sek green/dumba/ellis?
Nurse Benning

You mean Eakin. Cody Eakin.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=99396

He'd be an outstanding buy low candidate. Twelve points this year? Wow. He's a legit 20 goal 40 point center who could anchor our 3rd line for years.

Another good buy low candidate from Dallas would be Valeri Nichushkin. Fast 6'4" right wing may be a nice fit on McD's right side. But, who knows, maybe he's done with the NHL.

Buy low candidates like Kassian and Maroon have worked out pretty well here. I think it's good to always have a couple "second chance" players on your roster. You're far better off getting guys like this on value deals than throwing money at somebody like Brouwer, who has put up decent numbers on good teams, but is now in his 30s and is tailing off badly, while burning up a lot of capspace and only putting up 25 points a year.

 

[Draiskull]

blah blah age blah blah mobility but what about Chara from BOS.

Big shot, 4M cap hit and I am sure Sekera would love it.

Chara-Sekera
Klefbom-Larsson

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

blah blah age blah blah mobility but what about Chara from BOS.

Big shot, 4M cap hit and I am sure Sekera would love it.

Chara-Sekera
Klefbom-Larsson

He's still just a frightening beast of a man, watching a couple shifts against the Sens, he can dominate with his crazy physical tools.

 

[belair]

You mean Eakin. Cody Eakin.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=99396

He'd be an outstanding buy low candidate. Twelve points this year? Wow. He's a legit 20 goal 40 point center who could anchor our 3rd line for years.

Another good buy low candidate from Dallas would be Valeri Nichushkin. Fast 6'4" right wing may be a nice fit on McD's right side. But, who knows, maybe he's done with the NHL.

Buy low candidates like Kassian and Maroon have worked out pretty well here. I think it's good to always have a couple "second chance" players on your roster. You're far better off getting guys like this on value deals than throwing money at somebody like Brouwer, who has put up decent numbers on good teams, but is now in his 30s and is tailing off badly, while burning up a lot of capspace and only putting up 25 points a year.

Cody Eakin scored 3 goals this season...three. People ripped on Nuge and Eberle...wait til they see this guy. He's also signed at $3.85m for 3 more years. Three.

He would not be a good acquisition for Edmonton, let me tell you.

 

[CupofOil]

Cody Eakin scored 3 goals this season...three. People ripped on Nuge and Eberle...wait til they see this guy. He's also signed at $3.85m for 3 more years. Three.

He would not be a good acquisition for Edmonton, let me tell you.

So are you going to ignore his previous 3 seasons when he scored 15-20 goals, 35-40 points in a 3rd line role each season? I've always thought that he'd be a really good fit on the Oilers 3rd line. Good skater, good defensively, solid PKer, can chip in 35-40 points. I have a bit of an issue with the term of his contract but I don't see why he wouldn't be a good fit here. He and Kassian would form 2/3 of a very capable 3rd line.

People rip Nuge and Eberle because they didn't bring enough offense in a scoring rol for their $6M pricetag and didn't compete very hard in some games. Eakin would be in a completely different role. A 3rd line center is a must this offseason IMO.

 

[belair]

So are you going to ignore his previous 3 seasons when he scored 15-20 goals, 35-40 points in a 3rd line role each season? I've always thought that he'd be a really good fit on the Oilers 3rd line. Good skater, good defensively, solid PKer, can chip in 35-40 points. I have a bit of an issue with the term of his contract but I don't see why he wouldn't be a good fit here. He and Kassian would form 2/3 of a very capable 3rd line.

People rip Nuge and Eberle because they didn't bring enough offense in a scoring rol for their $6M pricetag and didn't compete very hard in some games. Eakin would be in a completely different role. A 3rd line center is a must this offseason IMO.

Completely. Because they weren't in a third line role each season. Cody Eakin has played a considerable amount of top six minutes in Dallas the past few seasons. He averaged 8 seconds less than Nuge in EVTOI this season. And in previous seasons? Look at his game logs. Lots of Benn and Seguin mentioned.

If you drop him to our bottom six and expect those same 40 points, you're going to be severely disappointed. Benoit Pouliot outproduced this guy this year playing garbage minutes and people are talking about offering high picks to Vegas to take him away for free.

People rip Nuge and Eberle because they didn't bring enough offense. Full stop. Eakin may not even provide half that in limited minutes.

 

[PaPaDee]

Tops of my off-season wish list:

A RH, shutdown, face off specialist centre. Any options out there that fit the bill?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Tops of my off-season wish list:

A RH, shutdown, face off specialist centre. Any options out there that fit the bill?

Derek Ryan maybe, as far as UFAs.

 

[CupofOil]

Completely. Because they weren't in a third line role each season. Cody Eakin has played a considerable amount of top six minutes in Dallas the past few seasons. He averaged 8 seconds less than Nuge in EVTOI this season. And in previous seasons? Look at his game logs. Lots of Benn and Seguin mentioned.

If you drop him to our bottom six and expect those same 40 points, you're going to be severely disappointed. Benoit Pouliot outproduced this guy this year playing garbage minutes and people are talking about offering high picks to Vegas to take him away for free.

People rip Nuge and Eberle because they didn't bring enough offense. Full stop. Eakin may not even provide half that in limited minutes.

I know he played some wing but when he played center, he was predominantly centering the 3rd line behind Seguin and Spezza prior to last season, no?
Again though, not sure why you're comparing him to Nuge and Eberle, his role would be as a defensive center on the 3rd line while they were placed in 2nd line scoring roles. If he chipped in 30+ points, that would be a bonus.

In any event, Chia will likely steer clear of any longer term deals until he gets both McDavid and Drai inked long term so he likely isn't too interested. They need to get a 3rd line center somehow though. I don't see anybody internally who is ready for the role so they're going to have to pay somebody.

 

[Asiaoil]

Tops of my off-season wish list:

A RH, shutdown, face off specialist centre. Any options out there that fit the bill?

A buy low 4th line option that might be developing is Nic Dowd in LA. He's not what you describe now but he might be in a year or two. The little bugger always plays well against us as well. Good size, can skate, RHS, FO% needs work, hits, cheap contract.

 

[belair]

If people are looking at third-line center options, what about a deal like Mark Fayne for Joe Colborne? Obviously not one-for-one but a small addition from us.

Colborne also had an awful season preceded by two strong seasons in Calgary. He's making $2.5m for one more season. Colborne can win draws, be physical, has size and Chiarelli is very familiar with him.

 

[belair]

I know he played some wing but when he played center, he was predominantly centering the 3rd line behind Seguin and Spezza prior to last season, no?
Again though, not sure why you're comparing him to Nuge and Eberle, his role would be as a defensive center on the 3rd line while they were placed in 2nd line scoring roles. If he chipped in 30+ points, that would be a bonus.

In any event, Chia will likely steer clear of any longer term deals until he gets both McDavid and Drai inked long term so he likely isn't too interested. They need to get a 3rd line center somehow though. I don't see anybody internally who is ready for the role so they're going to have to pay somebody.

I'm not. I'm just mentioning he played as much as one of them but came away with less production than Benny Poo. So that 30 points is probably a tad optimistic.

Agreed though. I don't think Chiarelli adds any long-term deals this off-season besides the Draisaitl and possibly McDavid ones.

 

[belair]

A buy low 4th line option that might be developing is Nic Dowd in LA. He's not what you describe now but he might be in a year or two. The little bugger always plays well against us as well. Good size, can skate, RHS, FO% needs work, hits, cheap contract.

I like Dowd but why does LA do that? They are in cap hell. I can't see them letting any value guess slip away from that organization without a massive overpayment.

 

[Draiskull]

If people are looking at third-line center options, what about a deal like Mark Fayne for Joe Colborne? Obviously not one-for-one but a small addition from us.

Colborne also had an awful season preceded by two strong seasons in Calgary. He's making $2.5m for one more season. Colborne can win draws, be physical, has size and Chiarelli is very familiar with him.

He is 38.5% on the dot this year and hasnt played C in 3 yrs. Not too sure about him 'being physical' either.

 

[belair]

He is 38.5% on the dot this year and hasnt played C in 3 yrs. Not too sure about him 'being physical' either.

He took 117 faceoffs this year. He's predominantly played wing the past couple of seasons. The two seasons he was a center in Calgary he held a 48.5% and 53.7% success rate taking a fair number of draws. He also hits fairly consistently--about the same rate as a guy like Drake Caggiula.

I'm not sure if anyone's noticed a theme in some of the forwards I'd prefer to target but verstaility is a big thing I think Todd McLellan values in his forwards. He's mentioned how he utilised Patrick Marleau in his time in SJ. Guys that can play all three positions effectively could be quite valuable. He's groomed Draisaitl and Caggiula to do so this season.

But in a trade like that, he'd be a reasonable option IMO. Chiarelli has made good on a couple of reclamation projects and Colorado just may be desperate enough to give Mark Fayne a shot.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Don't want to look to far head to the offseason as playoffs are going on. But with rumors that dallas could trade Eakins it got me thinking about a few options for the offeason.

1.Trade for Eakins
2. We need a RHD D man ( preferably a puck mover) Options include Green, ellis, dumba, harmonic. Use eberle, picks and prospects
3. Sign a scoring RW for Mcdavid.

Maroon Mcdavid Oshie?
Lucic Drai RNH
Cag Eakins slep/pulj
Khaira Letestu Kass

Klef Lars
Sek green/dumba/ellis?
Nurse Benning

Eakins? Where is the upchucking emoticon?

 

[Asiaoil]

Colbourne is a defensive train wreck - 3rd worst ES GF% of 351 forwards playing more than 500 ES minutes - and he only had 5 ES points the whole year. Yeah that's a reclamation project alright. He's the hockey equivalent of a beat up chevy cavalier..........that's on fire.

That said - one year left at $2.5 million - I'd trade Fayne or Pouliot for him straight up to reduce cap/years left. But only if we can't get rid of those guys any other way.

 

[belair]

Colbourne is a defensive train wreck - 3rd worst ES GF% of 351 forwards playing more than 500 ES minutes - and he only had 5 ES points the whole year. Yeah that's a reclamation project alright. He's the hockey equivalent of a beat up chevy cavalier..........that's on fire.

That said - one year left at $2.5 million - I'd trade Fayne or Pouliot for him straight up to reduce cap/years left. But only if we can't get rid of those guys any other way.

How bad was he in Calgary though? I wouldn't expect the guy to be a world-beater but you'd probably be hard-pressed to find many guys in Colorado who put up decent stats on that team. Especially playing that low in the lineup.

That being said, yes. Mark Fayne has to be the other piece in that deal.

Crap for crap.