Prospect Info: Round 1, Pick 22, German Rubtsov, C, Russia U-19 (MHL)

[Captain Dave Poulin]

We would have never drafted a Finn in round 7, let alone a re-entry Finn in round 1, who is a dangler. It's like 3 strikes.

Gauthier I always had a strong dislike for. I wrote a lot of negative posts on him lol. And Jones. I was tearing my hair out reading us take them in mocks. I liked Bellows more than them in his draft year.

I remember those almost word for word, and you were spot on, as usual.

 

[Striiker]

Even if Rubtsov and Laberge end up as duds, Hart could make that whole draft worth it.

And don’t forget our savior Wade Allison.

 

[baudib1]

I'd sign up for Bellows for Rub and LaBerge.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[FLYguy3911]

I said dominate instead of dominant on the first page.

 

[pit]

SKA did not really "need" Yakupov and he was basically on their 3rd line half of the year with Lehterä playing over him...

Ouch.

 

[pit]

I said dominate instead of dominant on the first page.

 

[Curufinwe]

I said dominate instead of dominant on the first page.

You are patient zero.

 

[Stizzle]

I put together a rough draft of my summer Flyers prospect rankings. Once the upcoming draft is complete, I doubt Rubtsov will make my top 20. I had him #13 last year. That's without even including goalies.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The collapse of Yakupov sure is something.

 

[deadhead]

I put together a rough draft of my summer Flyers prospect rankings. Once the upcoming draft is complete, I doubt Rubtsov will make my top 20. I had him #13 last year. That's without even including goalies.

Rubtsov and Kase are tough ones, both have shown flashes, neither has been able to stay healthy.

 

[Rebels57]

I liked what I saw from Kase in the NHL more than Rubtsov.

 

[TCTC]

I liked what I saw from Kase in the NHL more than Rubtsov.

Tbf, it's always easier for a winger to step into the league. That's why Frost has struggled as well.

 

[Larry44]

Tbf, it's always easier for a winger to step into the league. That's why Frost has struggled as well.

I would still like to see Rubtsov and Kase stay healthy enough to get more NHL time before we have to jettison them. NAK didn't overwhelm on his first call ups, but then it just clicked. Ruby and Kase are also smart players who can skate, play D and have puck skills.

 

[orangey]

I would still like to see Rubtsov and Kase stay healthy enough to get more NHL time before we have to jettison them. NAK didn't overwhelm on his first call ups, but then it just clicked. Ruby and Kase are also smart players who can skate, play D and have puck skills.

That's the thing; forwards who are smart and defend like that don't really need much AHL development time. However you do need them to be healthy for a stretch to feel confident in them and that hasn't really happened. Hope it changes because I like both players and think they can contribute. In particular Rubtsov should be a good fit on the 4th line or anywhere in the bottom 6 with his strong defensive play and ability to play center.

 

[Larry44]

That's the thing; forwards who are smart and defend like that don't really need much AHL development time. However you do need them to be healthy for a stretch to feel confident in them and that hasn't really happened. Hope it changes because I like both players and think they can contribute. In particular Rubtsov should be a good fit on the 4th line or anywhere in the bottom 6 with his strong defensive play and ability to play center.

Agreed. At some point the numbers game is going to mean Fletcher has to deal a couple of the many forward prospects or let them walk back to Europe. It means we're going to have a kick butt team going forward with 4 solid lines all the time, and reinforcements from the farm at all positions.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Rubtsov has been a major disappointment.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Rubtsov has been a major disappointment.

I don't think that's fair. I think he's been good for what opportunities he's been given, but hasn't excelled. He's had (I believe) 2 major injuries in his Pro career and considering the center depth with the Flyers, him breaking in is tough.

Do you think Morin is a disappointment as well? He has had a few serious injuries already and considering our blueline, it's hard to get in, even though I'd much rather him play over Hagg.

 

[flyersfan02]

I don't think that's fair. I think he's been good for what opportunities he's been given, but hasn't excelled. He's had (I believe) 2 major injuries in his Pro career and considering the center depth with the Flyers, him breaking in is tough.

Do you think Morin is a disappointment as well? He has had a few serious injuries already and considering our blueline, it's hard to get in, even though I'd much rather him play over Hagg.

Right. Just like Laughton.. it took him a few years before breaking into the main roster full-time.

 

[captainpaxil]

Right. Just like Laughton.. it took him a few years before breaking into the main roster full-time.

I think they tried really hard to fit Laughton in at center even sending him down to the ahl to work on different things only to recognize he's best at wing. I feel Ruby is the opposite. A natural center and defensive forward who may only find his offense after playing at an nhl pace and with talented players.

 

[Damaged Goods]

Rubtsov did not make the 31-man bubble roster, and was not picked by the current regime

If he has a future in the NHL at all, it's not with the Flyers -- his best hopes are probably in the KHL or a European league

 

[BritainStix]

Biggest year for Rubstov. If he can stay healthy and put together a campaign on what should be a young skilled team, he has a shot at becoming the flyers 4c late in the year.

 

[Rebels57]

Rubtsov did not make the 31-man bubble roster, and was not picked by the current regime

If he has a future in the NHL at all, it's not with the Flyers -- his best hopes are probably in the KHL or a European league

Most likely. He's not very good. Waste of a 1st rounder. Hopefully they can at least use him in a trade.

2016 Draft was a weird one. Totally dropped the ball on our top 2 picks but still walked away with Hart, Bunnaman, Hogberg, and Laczynski.

 

[Tripod]

Most likely. He's not very good. Waste of a 1st rounder. Hopefully they can at least use him in a trade.

2016 Draft was a weird one. Totally dropped the ball on our top 2 picks but still walked away with Hart, Bunnaman, Hogberg, and Laczynski.

Crazy how we have 3 1st rounders the last 7 years that could be busts in Morin, Rubstov and JOB yet we are not counting on them at all and doesn't really matter at this point. Except the waste of a top asset of course.

All 3 of them need a good year next year to have a NHL future...with the Flyers or elsewhere.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Don’t really think Rubtsov has much trade value at this point. He hasn’t really done much in years now. The nice production in 14 games or whatever the previous year kind losses it’s meaning after this year & before it.

You’re likely doing him a favor if you’re trading him. So not really expecting much in return.

They probably just hold on to him & see what happens next year for better or worse. Unless he heads back to Russia of course.