Prospect Info: Round 1, Pick #19: Jay O'Brien, C, MA-USHS --> Providence U

[bobbythebrain]

This is gold

 

[BernieParent]

I got 2 words for ya: hala penos.

He plays for the Dodgers, right?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I think I saw this dude play maybe 2 games (US18s), but his name screams gritty defensive center who can add 45 points and is a regular on PP2 and PK2.

Wouldn’t hate it

 

[TheKingPin]

Coming from one of the biggest orange IV drinkers on the forums - I wouldn't expect any less.

Revisit in 2-3 years when the gap between the two is significant. Two of Frost, Farabee or O'Brien will even end up better than Patrick IMO due to nagging injuries and a significant amount of missed time.

Not 100% sure what that means, but Rebel doesn’t like a lot of the Flyers management haha.

I think Patrick puts in a few 80 pt seasons. I see him as a more solid Seguin.

 

[Rebels57]

Not 100% sure what that means, but Rebel doesn’t like a lot of the Flyers management haha.

I think Patrick puts in a few 80 pt seasons. I see him as a more solid Seguin.

I didn't consider that comment even worth giving a serious response to

 

[Curufinwe]

And just so there is no confusion, Boxscores hot takes:


Hell...less than 1 year ago(June 23rd 2017) you said:

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Don't speak for this Philly fan. I'd trade Couturier for Galchenyuk in a second.

Cooooooooots!!! Most. Overrated. Flyer. Ever.

Or on June 22nd 2017:

Couturier is a completely different issue. Most. Overrated. Flyer. Ever. And save the swanky "analytics", I'm not impressed. I watch Couturier play, he's an average player with above average defense and limited offense.

Again on June 22,2017:

All of that said, it has nothing to do with the fact that, yes, Giroux and Couturier are massively overrated by Flyers fans on this forum. And I'm in favor of them being dealt for a good return.

Again June 22, 2017:

I hope Giroux and/or Couturier are one of the pieces going. The 2 most overrated Flyers in recent history. Simmonds shouldn't be traded - he should be named captain.

Feb 22, 2017:

Couturier is not cut out to be a scoring center, he's just not. He's slow and lumbering and his hands are average at best. He's a fine 3rd liner and that's it... enough with continually trying to fool ourselves into thinking he's more than that.

Feb 20, 2017:

Couturier should be available in a second. I'm a Flyers fan and some of my fellow Flyers fans are crazy, the way they overrate this guy. And Giroux would be traded before Simmonds if anyone has been paying attention

The weirdest thing about Boxscore is that he refuses to ever address how he wrong he was in the past, but somehow expects people to take his current opinions seriously.

 

[deadhead]

When it comes to drafting 1st round talent, the Flyers (under Hextall) have been as great as any team in the league. I still like Mittestadt more than Patrick, but the Frost over Tolvanen pick is starting to win me over. Farabee and O'Brien were both awesome picks IMO.

Middelstadt? You mean his 30 points in 34 NCAA games at 19 years old? He had a nice WJC, but it's not quite the NHL.
Sure he scored in a late season cameo for a Buffalo team playing out the string.
But a guy who's primary value is scoring should have been among the NCAA leaders.
Allison at the same age had 29 points in 36 games, Laczynski 32 points in 34 games.
We traded Marody who only had 24 points in 32 games at 19.

Meanwhile, Patrick at 17, before he was injured had 30 points in 21 WHL playoff games with a +19.
Last year, he "only" had 30 NHL points coming off his second surgery in two summers.

Patrick > > Middelstadt

 

[hatcher]

Middelstadt? You mean his 30 points in 34 NCAA games at 19 years old? He had a nice WJC, but it's not quite the NHL.
Sure he scored in a late season cameo for a Buffalo team playing out the string.
But a guy who's primary value is scoring should have been among the NCAA leaders.
Allison at the same age had 29 points in 36 games, Laczynski 32 points in 34 games.
We traded Marody who only had 24 points in 32 games at 19.

Meanwhile, Patrick at 17, before he was injured had 30 points in 21 WHL playoff games with a +19.
Last year, he "only" had 30 NHL points coming off his second surgery in two summers.

Patrick > > Middelstadt

Easily. Middlestadt LOl jesus points though just points matters.

 

[Flyerfan13]

NHL.com article
O'Brien aims for steady development before joining Flyers

 

[Chuck Downie]

NHL.com article
O'Brien aims for steady development before joining Flyers

"I've always wanted to play college hockey, always wanted to play Hockey East college hockey and Providence is a great spot for me," O'Brien said. "It's going to be a big step and I'm ready for the challenge and I'm going to embrace it and I'm going to go in there and make an impact."

Go get em' Jay.

 

[Domino666]

I didn't consider that comment even worth giving a serious response to

Why is Mandog f***ing with you Rebs?

 

[Curufinwe]

Why is Mandog ****ing with you Rebs?

Boxscore is the worst evaluator of NHL talent on this entire website.

Boxcar is the biggest fan of Brandon Manning in the entire world.

 

[Garbage Goal]

Boxscore is the worst evaluator of NHL talent on this entire website.

Boxcar is the biggest fan of Brandon Manning in the entire world.

I'll admit, I conflated the two this entire off-season and was wondering why Boxcar turned into another generic hot takes poster until I saw your post just now.

 

[Flyerfan13]

The O'Brien Family Legacy

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[deadhead]

Let's see, do I trust the judgment of some schmuck on Twitter or the GM who has already found TK at #24 and Frost at #27?

 

[Chuck Downie]

Former Flyer Amonte sees 'big-time player' in Jay O'Brien

 

[Rebels57]

The question for me is, who moves to wing, Frost or O'Brien? Both of them are going to need to be in our top 9 if not eventually our top 6.

2 or 3 years down the line..

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Farabee - Patrick - Voracek
JVR - Frost - O'Brien
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Allison

Good god almighty.

 

[Striiker]

Well, based on Hakstols coaching, Couts might be moved to wing next year. After all, we move players to wing before there's any reason to think they can't play C anymore.

 

[Tripod]

The question for me is, who moves to wing, Frost or O'Brien? Both of them are going to need to be in our top 9 if not eventually our top 6.

2 or 3 years down the line..

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Farabee - Patrick - Voracek
JVR - Frost - O'Brien
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Allison

Good god almighty.

I think Allison will already be in the 3rd line RW spot. And does JVR get moved in a few years if Lindblom shows he can be a 45-50 point guy?

We certainly don't have enough spots for everyone if they all pan out. One should be moved in expansion so we can keep Provy, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers. Bribe them to leave our D alone.

 

[Magua]

The question for me is, who moves to wing, Frost or O'Brien?

I think JOB's game suits wing a whole lot better than Frost's. I don't think JOB is a lock to be a center at the NHL level anyway.

I think Allison will already be in the 3rd line RW spot.

Simmonds.

 

[deadhead]

The question for me is, who moves to wing, Frost or O'Brien? Both of them are going to need to be in our top 9 if not eventually our top 6.

2 or 3 years down the line..

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Farabee - Patrick - Voracek
JVR - Frost - O'Brien
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Allison

Good god almighty.

No NAK, Rubtsov, Twarynski, Laczynski, and of course, Goul?

 

[Rebels57]

I think Allison will already be in the 3rd line RW spot. And does JVR get moved in a few years if Lindblom shows he can be a 45-50 point guy?

We certainly don't have enough spots for everyone if they all pan out. One should be moved in expansion so we can keep Provy, Ghost, Sanheim and Myers. Bribe them to leave our D alone.

Geez I forgot about Lindblom. Embarassment of riches.

At some point im guessing we will see a quantity for quality trade which will fill a hole and clear up a logjam.

Could see it as soon as this season for a rental goalie.

 

[Jtown]

The question for me is, who moves to wing, Frost or O'Brien? Both of them are going to need to be in our top 9 if not eventually our top 6.

2 or 3 years down the line..

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Farabee - Patrick - Voracek
JVR - Frost - O'Brien
Ratcliffe - Vorobyev - Allison

Good god almighty.

in this lineup voracek would rack up around 60 assists in his sleep.

 

[Psuhockey]

Geez I forgot about Lindblom. Embarassment of riches.

At some point im guessing we will see a quantity for quality trade which will fill a hole and clear up a logjam.

Could see it as soon as this season for a rental goalie.

Or a defenseman. Don’t forget the 10 million in capspace the team is currently carrying too. Something big has to be around the corner on the trade front.