Series Talk: Round 1: Pens vs Rangers

Who wins?

  • Pens in 4

    Votes: 6 2.8%
  • Pens in 5

    Votes: 10 4.6%
  • Pens in 6

    Votes: 46 21.3%
  • Pens in 7

    Votes: 29 13.4%
  • Rangers in 4

    Votes: 20 9.3%
  • Rangers in 5

    Votes: 66 30.6%
  • Rangers in 6

    Votes: 27 12.5%
  • Rangers in 7

    Votes: 12 5.6%

  • Total voters
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harmonica

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Because once again, there is no danger in a broken bone getting worse. His injury is something he could get through with pain management.

Sorry dude, you have had some garbage takes and clearly don't know what you are going on about, or generalizing stuff so you can easily walk back on them. Broken bones can get worse and not properly caring for it could lead to delayed or nonunioned bones. Nonunion fractures are most common in foot and lower body fractures.

Pure speculation on your part in regards to the injury and that it's something that he could get through with pain management.
 

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Sorry dude, you have had some garbage takes and clearly don't know what you are going on about, or generalizing stuff so you can easily walk back on them. Broken bones can get worse and not properly caring for it could lead to delayed or nonunioned bones. Nonunion fractures are most common in foot and lower body fractures.

Pure speculation on your part in regards to the injury and that it's something that he could get through with pain management.

If Jarry is playing tomorrow then he could’ve played Friday. Two days doesn’t suddenly heal a broken bone.
 

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If Jarry is playing tomorrow then he could’ve played Friday. Two days doesn’t suddenly heal a broken bone.

So if he could have played Friday, could he have played Wednesday?

And if he could have played Wednesday, could he have played Monday?

And if he could have played Monday, could he have played Saturday?

And if he could have played Saturday, could he have played Thursday?

And if he could have played Thursday, could he have played Tuesday?
 

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So if he could have played Friday, could he have played Wednesday?

And if he could have played Wednesday, could he have played Monday?

And if he could have played Monday, could he have played Saturday?

And if he could have played Saturday, could he have played Thursday?

And if he could have played Thursday, could he have played Tuesday?

Yes.
 
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Big Friggin Dummy

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Didn't Sid deal with a f***ed up wrist for like a decade because it was never properly fixed or healed properly? :laugh:

(fwiw I think Jarry's probably fine to go, even if he's not at absolute 100%.)
 

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Lol…on Jarry: DK said on one of his segments today or last night that he watched Jarry practice before Game 5 in NY and he could not push off and move laterally, that he seemed in a lot of discomfort…and so they’re trying to buy him more time…Phil Bourque said even though he knows nothing about whether numbing a goalie’s foot would have any impact on his performance, that Jarry needs to take a needle and play tomorrow regardless …I mean, does that sound like a guy who’s ready to play?
 

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Lol…on Jarry: DK said on one of his segments today or last night that he watched Jarry practice before Game 5 in NY and he could not push off and move laterally, that he seemed in a lot of discomfort…and so they’re trying to buy him more time…Phil Bourque said even though he knows nothing about whether numbing a goalie’s foot would have any impact on his performance, that Jarry needs to take a needle and play tomorrow regardless …I mean, does that sound like a guy who’s ready to play?

I think people are misunderstood with what I’m saying. My point is Jarry could play right now and hockey players have played through that type of injury.

I’m not advocating for him to play and honestly wouldn’t play him tomorrow regardless.
 

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Lol…on Jarry: DK said on one of his segments today or last night that he watched Jarry practice before Game 5 in NY and he could not push off and move laterally, that he seemed in a lot of discomfort…and so they’re trying to buy him more time…Phil Bourque said even though he knows nothing about whether numbing a goalie’s foot would have any impact on his performance, that Jarry needs to take a needle and play tomorrow regardless …I mean, does that sound like a guy who’s ready to play?

There's no way that's true. Jarry is currently in the rehab window of his injury and there's been no notice of setbacks.

Discomfort would be understandable, but pushing off on the foot should not be painful enough for someone watching to notice. Jarry was also getting shot after shot fired on him today while Dom spent most of the day watching. If Jarry wasn't in good condition then both goalies would be getting high levels of practise for insurance, not just Jarry.
 
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Didn't Sid deal with a f***ed up wrist for like a decade because it was never properly fixed or healed properly? :laugh:

(fwiw I think Jarry's probably fine to go, even if he's not at absolute 100%.)

It was Reaves in 2014 that injured Crosby's wrist. Happened after the Olympics
 
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Big Friggin Dummy

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It was Reaves in 2014 that injured Crosby's wrist. Happened after the Olympics
Yeah, but I'm sayin', there's obvious cause to bring Jarry along slowly, even facing elimination. Injuries can be weird and last a long f***ing time if they don't get repaired and/or heal properly.
 

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Yeah, but I'm sayin', there's obvious cause to bring Jarry along slowly, even facing elimination. Injuries can be weird and last a long f***ing time if they don't get repaired and/or heal properly.

As I said above, Jarry is past the healing window and is in the rehab stage. The issue is not him reinjuring his foot, it's his conditioning and whether or not he can prove to the coaching staff that he will play at an acceptable level.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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As I said above, Jarry is past the healing window and is in the rehab stage. The issue is not him reinjuring his foot, it's his conditioning and whether or not he can prove to the coaching staff that he will play at an acceptable level.
We agree that there's a concern over Jarry's conditioning and timings, for sure. But none of us know what's up with his foot, even if there's a general consensus for expected recovery time. Sid, again, is proof that expected doesn't always go to plan. He had multiple procedures on his wrist over the years and long summers to recover on top of that, but the injury screwed him up for almost a decade.
 

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So if he could have played Friday, could he have played Wednesday?

And if he could have played Wednesday, could he have played Monday?

And if he could have played Monday, could he have played Saturday?

And if he could have played Saturday, could he have played Thursday?

And if he could have played Thursday, could he have played Tuesday?
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Putting Jarry in cold for a game 7 after this much time off is extremely risky. That being said Domingue is awful so I really wouldn’t want to be in sullys shoes on this one. Seems like a damned if you do damned if you don’t type scenario.
 
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I thought this was pretty good. What’s Therrien up to these days? And Molinari writes for PHN now. Seems like nobody stays with DK long.
 

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Man, I never knew there were so many orthopedic specialists on HFboards. Who can I DM about some shoulder issues I've been experiencing?
The best are the posters that suffered similar injuries thirty years ago chiming in. Apparently, they’ve made no advances in medicine in that time. Never mind the fact that NHL players see the best in the medical field.

“I hurt my knee 35 years ago playing pick up on Friday night at 11:30 pm. My knee was never the same. [neglects to mention he’s 40 pounds overweight and was 45 years old at the time]”
 
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Penguin Suited Up

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Because once again, there is no danger in a broken bone getting worse. His injury is something he could get through with pain management.

Domingue is probably a better option given the requirements of his injury, but I guarantee if he plays Sunday, he could’ve played earlier if needed.
There’s always risk in something getting worse when you don’t give your body time to heal. If Jarry’s experiencing a ton of pain in his foot while playing, he could start favoring other parts of his body, leading to increased pressure on other muscles, joints, etc. In a sport and position with quick, powerful movements, Jarry could very easily risk creating another injury.

Also, this notion of injured athletes having to tough it out all of the time needs to stop. . . It’s not in the best interest of the players. Talking about pain management with other players - everybody’s pain is their own, and it’s always a subjective thing. Every person knows their own pain and has the choice of time and method to heal. It’s perfectly reasonable to suggest that Jarry could play today, but could not have played a couple days ago. It’s up to him - and he’s the only person who should be making that call.
 

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Weird thing with this series is the team that has scored the first goal has lost 4/6, including the last 3.

That won’t stop us from panicking if they score first. And conversely we won’t feel safe even if they can somehow get say a 3 goal lead.
 

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