AustonsNostrils
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Harrington says Guhle couldn't be called up even if they wanted to without his ELC kicking in. What's the rule?
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How did Falk and Fedun jump in front of Nelson on the depth chart? Do we have another Ruhwedel on our hands?
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His ELC will slide unless he plays 10 or more NHL games. This idea that ELCs "kick in" creates a false perception of how they work, imo. The slide rule does not delay when an ELC starts, an ELC starts as soon as it is signed (or as soon as the following July 1, in some cases), the slide rule actually extends already active NHL SPCs.
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He's a rookie in pro hockey and he was overmatched and lost his confidence, he needs time in the AHL.
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So if we wanted to in an emergency call him up and played him in less than 10 games there's no burning a year of his ELC.
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This was my biggest issue with Murray's offseason: not addressing D-men depth. And he still could have made a waiver claim on McIlrath but passed, even when it was obvious we needed to send Nelson down. And now it's biting us in the ass.
What????
He added Falk and Fedun... both veterans, who are playing quite well after coming up from Rochester as depth defensemen.
How can you complain about not adding D depth, and propose a busted draft pick/waiver wire player as a solution.
Murray did a very good job adding depth. The issue was he wasn't able to upgrade the top 4.
While true, Fedun and Falk have both been pretty good, which nobody expected. I don't know if you can really plan for being down 3 top 4 defensemen.
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Well, if it's actually possible to use an emergency recall on Guhle at this point in time, which none of us actually know, then yeah sure.
It's still not likely that he gets recalled though. I don't really think it's in Buffalo's interest, in Guhle's interest or in his junior team's interest for him to be pulled away from his new junior team he's still getting acclimated to and toss him into the NHL as a 19 year old without any practices and also with having to travel across a continent, especially when there are other recall options about an hour down the thruway
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From pension plan puppets: The NHL permits each team to carry up to 23 players on its active roster, subject to the constraints of the salary cap. However, it also requires a minimum of 2 goaltenders, 6 defenceman and 12 forwards on its active roster at all times. A player is not considered on the active roster if they have been placed on the Injured Reserve List or are suspended by the NHL.
If the team falls below any of these minimum categories, they are permitted to recall a player without subjection to waivers in order to meet the NHL minimum roster requirements. However, the player must be returned to the affiliate when the player he is replacing returns from their inactive status.
The agreement between the NHL and CHL that states if a team is on its third emergency situation, the club can recall a player from major junior.
If the team falls below any of these minimum categories, they are permitted to recall a player without subjection to waivers in order to meet the NHL minimum roster requirements. However, the player must be returned to the affiliate when the player he is replacing returns from their inactive status.
The agreement between the NHL and CHL that states if a team is on its third emergency situation, the club can recall a player from major junior.
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Pickings are getting thin. They really need the Gorges injury to be minor enough that Kulikov can get healthy, thus allowing Gorges to skip some games to fully heal whatever. Nelson was already a mess on his off-side and recently scratched in Rochester, so he's possibly banged up too. Burgdoerfer's another righty also, but probably could play a few games up in pinch like the other AHL vets have. Austin's more of a depth AHL defender IMO and Martin's only just up now to Rochester from Elmira, so yeah, I can certainly see an emergency recall of Guhle here with any considerable absence from Gorges. Murray did mention that as an option in one of his earlier WGR interviews this year. Guhle's not expensive and idk what else they could do market-wise on the cheap as a stop-gap, as internally they'd be onto the 10D with another recall here. Gelinas was the last LHD, an offensive one at that, that cleared waivers IIRC, but he's at a McCabbe AAV as opposed to Guhle's ELC.
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I think the addition of Kulikov is an upgrade (though, admittedly, not a big enough one). Bigger problem is that we haven't had a healthy top 4.
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He traded a bottom pairing defenseman for a top-4 D. He signed two bottom pairing defenseman for nothing who have already shown to be more reliable than any bottom pair than we've had in years (Weber, Cola, Franson, *shiver*) as well as signed another top college UFA to see if he can hack it.
Best you can blame him for is trading away McNabb, and I'm pretty sure we'd be ragging on McNabb pretty hard if he was playing for us.
Hard to blame a GM for not preparing for 3 of his top-4 to go out and one of his bottom 2 to go as well.
Best you can blame him for is trading away McNabb, and I'm pretty sure we'd be ragging on McNabb pretty hard if he was playing for us.
Hard to blame a GM for not preparing for 3 of his top-4 to go out and one of his bottom 2 to go as well.
Agreed. Like Jame said, the issue was not doing more to upgrade the top 4, not depth.
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As long as emergency conditions remain. That is, until one of the other defensemen gets healthy (barring yet another injury, of course) or some other move is made to add a defenseman.
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