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Roster Speculation 2014-2015, Part V
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Djp
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I know I'm not going to be wrong.
He will ask fir fair compensation given what he thinks he can do if given a chance in the top 6 with PP time.
Do you think foligno is worth what he got paid for because grigirenko would easily produce more points than foligno if he was given the opportunity.
After adjusting for time on ice grigirenko would be close to foligno numbers in 12/13 and 13/14. Grigirenko has more offense potential thus likely getting more money based on him oriducing.
A low ball offer will either have him going to the KHL or getting signed to an offer sheet elsewhere at inly 2nd round compensation.
Give one example of this ever happening (in Grigorenko's contract and production state)
Luke Adam actually had a brief level of success in the NHL, followed by an AHL season that was better than Grigorenko's
I guess his stupid agent didn't recommend the "ask for the kind of money you think you'd deserve if you were in the NHL and playing a top 6 role" during his RFA contract negotiation
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Stewart on Nolan saying he's playing soft: "I don't think I'm a soft player. You can ask Prust, you can ask Lucic how soft I am." #Sabres
Let's just say Chris Stewart is a wee bit angry about being a scratch. #Sabres
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Stewart: Obviously not happy to be scratched. Glad we won, got the 2 points. Now it's get ready for the next one. #Sabres
Nolan on Stewart: He should be angry. Anyone who gets a healthy scratch should be disappointed, want to get back in there. He'll rebound.
Stewart on Nolan saying he's playing soft: "I don't think I'm a soft player. You can ask Prust, you can ask Lucic how soft I am." #Sabres
Let's just say Chris Stewart is a wee bit angry about being a scratch. #Sabres
@BuffaloSabres
Stewart: Obviously not happy to be scratched. Glad we won, got the 2 points. Now it's get ready for the next one. #Sabres
Nolan on Stewart: He should be angry. Anyone who gets a healthy scratch should be disappointed, want to get back in there. He'll rebound.
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Beerz
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Agree with Stewart. He doesn't play a soft game.. even outside the fighting. But he doesn't play the game most think he should play bc of his size. He isn't down low banging in the paint for dirty goals. The guy is skilled...and has pretty good wheels and trys to utilize those attributes. Which he should ..but I think he needs to add the down low game too.
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@BNHarrington
New #Sabres post w/audio: Stewart remains miffed about healthy scratch. Nolan says he should be angry. http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2014/12/10/stewart-remains-miffed-scratch-nolan-says-angry/
New #Sabres post w/audio: Stewart remains miffed about healthy scratch. Nolan says he should be angry. http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2014/12/10/stewart-remains-miffed-scratch-nolan-says-angry/
joshjull
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He's being called soft because he won't do the hard work and play the hard game he is capable of. If he played that way on a consistent basis he could be a driver of possession for his line.
To further show what I mean compare Stewart to Girgs, a player Stewart outweighs by roughly 40lbs. Zemgus uses everything he has (Skill, speed and strength) to get the puck and then try to keep it once he does. He also goes to all the hard areas of the ice and works his ass off every night. Thats why he is a driver of possession. Stewart doesn't do these things and plays a soft perimeter game most nights. Its why he has never been a strong possession player his entire career. He has always relied on others to get him the puck and to create time and space for him. Its maddening because he can very easily do those things for himself and others.
I brought up the weight difference to bring home how effective Stewart could be if he actually used that size. If he went to the hard areas and played a hard game with that size he could dominate. He just doesn't do it and its been an issue with him his entire career. That Stewart thinks getting in a few fights proves he's not soft tells me he doesn't get it.
Probably part and parcel. What's interesting about him and his iq is that sometimes he actually does make a smart play but its so infrequent that I look at it as a blind squirrel finding a nut at this point.
A few more offseason musings:
Trade(s):
Hodgson (2 million retained 1st two seasons) to Nashville for 2016 2nd + Janrok
Oshie to Buffalo for St Louis's 1st + Carrier (basically sending back the futures we got from the Miller/Ott deal)
M Richards to Buffalo for Buffalo's 2nd round pick (no salary retained)
Reinhart starts year in AHL
Signings:
Oduya to a 3 year, 13.5 million deal
Enroth to a 2 year, 7 million deal
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Tyler Ennis ($4.600m) / Zemgus Girgensons ($0.894m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m)
Matt Moulson ($5.000m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($1.000m) / Joel Armia ($0.894m)
Marcus Foligno ($1.875m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Brian Flynn ($0.715m)
Nicolas DesLauriers ($0.638m) / Johan Larsson ($0.851m) / Brian Gionta ($4.250m)
Cody McCormick ($1.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Josh Gorges ($3.900m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Nikita Zadorov ($0.894m) / Rasmus Ristolainen ($0.925m)
Johnny Oduya ($4.500m) / Mark Pysyk ($0.950m)
Mike Weber ($1.667m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jhonas Enroth ($3.500m)
Andrey Makarov ($0.581m)
BUYOUTS
Christian Ehrhoff ($0.000m)
Ville Leino ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2015-16)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,557,722; BONUSES: $2,525,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $14,442,278
Trade(s):
Hodgson (2 million retained 1st two seasons) to Nashville for 2016 2nd + Janrok
Oshie to Buffalo for St Louis's 1st + Carrier (basically sending back the futures we got from the Miller/Ott deal)
M Richards to Buffalo for Buffalo's 2nd round pick (no salary retained)
Reinhart starts year in AHL
Signings:
Oduya to a 3 year, 13.5 million deal
Enroth to a 2 year, 7 million deal
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Tyler Ennis ($4.600m) / Zemgus Girgensons ($0.894m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m)
Matt Moulson ($5.000m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($1.000m) / Joel Armia ($0.894m)
Marcus Foligno ($1.875m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Brian Flynn ($0.715m)
Nicolas DesLauriers ($0.638m) / Johan Larsson ($0.851m) / Brian Gionta ($4.250m)
Cody McCormick ($1.500m)
DEFENSEMEN
Josh Gorges ($3.900m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Nikita Zadorov ($0.894m) / Rasmus Ristolainen ($0.925m)
Johnny Oduya ($4.500m) / Mark Pysyk ($0.950m)
Mike Weber ($1.667m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jhonas Enroth ($3.500m)
Andrey Makarov ($0.581m)
BUYOUTS
Christian Ehrhoff ($0.000m)
Ville Leino ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2015-16)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $54,557,722; BONUSES: $2,525,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $14,442,278
Matt Ress
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Frankly, I hope if we get back prospects, TM is looking for a defenseman with a solid upside (he usually does) and either finishing his junior career or looking at a 2nd AHL season, basically a guy who is a year or two away that solidify the ROC d corps.
Can't do that. Per Capgeek:
Thus, the percentage of retention must remain constant for the life of the contract.
http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-do-retained-salary-transactions-work
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Nolan wants to see Stewart elevate his play, Meszaros cleared to return. Practice report: http://goo.gl/ACvWJk
Nolan wants to see Stewart elevate his play, Meszaros cleared to return. Practice report: http://goo.gl/ACvWJk
fine with most of it except 1. you traded for Calle but didnt get him on our roster? and 2. No way to I need 3 years of Oduya holding down Pysyk and McCabe...Gorges is gonna be a roadblock himself towards the end of his contract I dont need a meh Dman like Oduya also in the way.
Im all for Richards and Oshie though
Old Navy Goat
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Value is there but would prefer Hall over RNH as the Nuge and Drais just bring more of the same to the pipeline. I envision Reinhart turning into a similar player to RNH, while Drais is very Grigsesque
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Sure, I'd like that, too. I'd still do the mentioned trade if only because of the value that RNH and Draisaitl represent vis-a-vis the Myers/Enroth package--mostly because Enroth doesn't have much value.
Mike has also said tonight that trading Enroth and his .918 SV% would be the "shadiest, tankiest move ever," and TM would have to "answer to the local and national media" for such a move. Did Tim have to explain why he traded an impending UFA goaltender last year, who, by the way, had better numbers at the time of the trade.
Guy is a clown. I keep re-watching Idiocracy with the expectation that he's going to be playing himself as one of President Camacho's White House correspondents.
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