Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVIII

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[Fvital92]

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Zucc better come ready to play... He needs a burst of trade value

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

They should roll tomorrow.

Hope that mopearello is out of here soon though.

 

[Thirty One]

As for the question why did they trade Stepan only to sign Shattenkirk, isn't there an obvious answer there?

They wanted to take a shot at staying competitive while still adding young pieces to their system. Not every trade of a veteran needs to be followed with the trade of every other veteran.

 

[JohnC]

As for the question why did they trade Stepan only to sign Shattenkirk, isn't there an obvious answer there?

They wanted to take a shot at staying competitive while still adding young pieces to their system. Not every trade of a veteran needs to be followed with the trade of every other veteran.

We need less youth but also fewer vets imo

 

[Avery16]

In answer to that earlier unsourced post about the Blues blowing it all up:

https://www.tsn.ca/blues-not-looking-to-trade-young-core-1.1225700

 

[Zibanejbread]

Friedman on potential suitors for Hayes, Zuccarello

 

[Thirty One]

Friedman on potential suitors for Hayes, Zuccarello

“Zuccarello is an interesting one. I could see Nashville liking a guy like Zuccarello. He fits kind of with what I think they would do. But if you told me that Zuccarello signed an extension to stay, I wouldn’t be surprised.”

Obviously he's not as privileged as to up close information on Zucc.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

“Zuccarello is an interesting one. I could see Nashville liking a guy like Zuccarello. He fits kind of with what I think they would do. But if you told me that Zuccarello signed an extension to stay, I wouldn’t be surprised.”

Obviously he's not as privileged as to up close information on Zucc.

 

[Inferno]

He suggests we're all in on panarin....I just don't see it unless we win the jack Hughes lottery ball....that changes everything...otherwise....I don't see it.

 

[Thirty One]

Luckily we have Wolfy to give us the more accurate information than this.

 

[Webster]

“Zuccarello is an interesting one. I could see Nashville liking a guy like Zuccarello. He fits kind of with what I think they would do. But if you told me that Zuccarello signed an extension to stay, I wouldn’t be surprised.”

Obviously he's not as privileged as to up close information on Zucc.

So you know more than him perhaps? An extension is still an option you know, I don't think this has been decided yet..

 

[Leetch3]

Why would anyone sign with a team that disrespects him so much?

 

[Kovalev27]

On Panarin yes we’re rebuilding but I don’t buy for a second we want a log rebuild. I think they want to make the playoffs next year. I do. Bottom out as best as possible this year but next year they want back in the game.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He suggests we're all in on panarin....I just don't see it unless we win the jack Hughes lottery ball....that changes everything...otherwise....I don't see it.

I do.

It makes even more sense if they land another top guy like Hughes as you mentioned.

This was never going to be a 5 year process. At most it was going to be 3 and they may even do an about face if they ever played well enough to stay in it this season.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I do.

It makes even more sense if they land another top guy like Hughes as you mentioned.

This was never going to be a 5 year process. At most it was going to be 3 and they may even do an about face if they ever played well enough to stay in it this season.

You had me until the last sentence. I think they're fully committed to a rebuild through the end of this year.

I also think pursuing Panarin is about not about competing next year, but in 2020-2021 and beyond.

 

[Inferno]

I dunno...honestly I think they need 1 more really bad season after this and then they should be ready and out of their bad contracts.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You had me until the last sentence. I think they're fully committed to a rebuild through the end of this year.

I also think pursuing Panarin is about not about competing next year, but in 2020-2021 and beyond.

I think they are prepared to suck this year but remember selling last year wasn't plan A.

Perhaps it is now but I have my doubts that they can resist the temptation if they're even close.

Fortunately, that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Leetch3]

I dunno...honestly I think they need 1 more really bad season after this and then they should be ready and out of their bad contracts.

the timing is not great. its most likely too soon to make that move. but the problem is that a guy like that and that age isn't available for just $$ every year. the following summer probably works better but what are the odds that you can land a similar guy then and then you are back to hoping you find elite talent in the draft alone.

 

[Ghost of jas]

On Panarin yes we’re rebuilding but I don’t buy for a second we want a log rebuild. I think they want to make the playoffs next year. I do. Bottom out as best as possible this year but next year they want back in the game.

They may want to make the playoffs next year, but as long as the defense consists of the current cast of characters, that’s a futile goal.

 

[Trxjw]

For me Panarin isn't really an issue of timing, but simply the fact that you never get a full return on UFA contracts. You're paying a guy more than he's worth immediately and he's almost certain to never out perform his contract. Until this team has a number of guys who are out performing their contracts I'd rather stay out of the high-end of the UFA market.

 

[bobbop]

Late word from Winnipeg... @Edge deal on hold. Chevaldayoff reverting to old habits of waiting forever to make a move. Stay tuned...

 

[Leetch3]

For me Panarin isn't really an issue of timing, but simply the fact that you never get a full return on UFA contracts. You're paying a guy more than he's worth immediately and he's almost certain to never out perform his contract. Until this team has a number of guys who are out performing their contracts I'd rather stay out of the high-end of the UFA market.

well that timing issue i think comes down to wasting the first year or 2 of his deal cause the team isn't ready and typically the end years aren't great on a long term deal

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Don’t know how to feel about some of that. I’m glad we don’t seem inclined to overpay Hayes. Definitely don’t think re-signing Zucc should even be a consideration. Being “all in” on Panarin, eh. Panarin is great but I’ve got FA fatique. I guess that’s a bad reason to be “meh” on it, but whatever.

Basically I’m questioning our direction right now. Like are we just done rebuilding? I feel like we need two more drafts like 2018 before we start loading up in free agency.