Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLIV

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[Alluckks]

Does anyone know where the new CBA proposal can be found? I'd like to check out any major changes. Also, it seems like that it goes through, is that incorrect?

 

[LokiDog]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

 

[Irishguy42]

Does anyone know where the new CBA proposal can be found? I'd like to check out any major changes. Also, it seems like that it goes through, is that incorrect?

The entire NHLPA has to vote on it, which will probably take a day or two to vote/collect votes/etc. So I would imagine that we won't see the CBA ratified until late this week/early next week.

As for the proposal, I don't think the full document has been released, obviously. But Seravalli did a quick recap on the highlights: NHL, NHLPA on verge of labour peace; plan to resume games Aug. 1 - TSN.ca

 

[Avery16]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

Grabner and/or Hagelin would be great bottom-six depth to have, butI dont know that Grabner will be interested in such a pay cut. Couldn't he do better in Europe, if not from another team?

 

[Thirty One]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

If we let Kreider go, I could see it, but there’s no need now. We already have a guy that can jump out of a pool.

 

[LokiDog]

Grabner and/or Hagelin would be great bottom-six depth to have, butI dont know that Grabner will be interested in such a pay cut. Couldn't he do better in Europe, if not from another team?

Perhaps. Some guys want to play here until they can’t get a contract. I don’t know his situation such as whether he’s married to an American, spends his off seasons here or overseas, etc. it’s certainly possible he’d leave if the offers weren’t good. But if he were playing in the NHL for 4th line money, I’d be willing to sign him.

 

[egelband]

Perhaps. Some guys want to play here until they can’t get a contract. I don’t know his situation such as whether he’s married to an American, spends his off seasons here or overseas, etc. it’s certainly possible he’d leave if the offers weren’t good. But if he were playing in the NHL for 4th line money, I’d be willing to sign him.

I like Grabner. It’s probably a bit early to be thinking about the 21-22 bottom six, so much will change, but Grabner, even if not scoring, is a valuable player. And he should definitely maintain his speed and defense. Which we’ll need.

 

[Machinehead]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

I'm never one to turn down a 4th liner who can actually play hockey.

 

[Trxjw]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

Any time someone says the phrase "fitness freak" my eye starts to twitch. "Fitness freak" was one of the most common justifications for signing Brad Richards.

Not saying he'd be an awful add on the cheap. Just brings back bad memories.

 

[bobbop]

Not this summer, but next summer Michael Grabner is UFA. He’s fallen off quite a bit but he’s a fitness freak and a vet. If he doesn’t get many offers I’d give him 1M for 2 years for our 4th line. Loved him when he was here, he’s still got wheels and he can slot up during injury, PK and provide a veteran presence. Again, this is if we could get him on close to a 1M AAV.

There was a conversation between the Rangers and Coyotes at the trade deadline. The Rangers weren’t willing to give much up or take on his whole contract. With all the moving parts in the league right now, it may or may not get revisited this summer.

 

[Avery16]

Any time someone says the phrase "fitness freak" my eye starts to twitch. "Fitness freak" was one of the most common justifications for signing Brad Richards.

Not saying he'd be an awful add on the cheap. Just brings back bad memories.

This is accurate, but it’s an overused term. I’m convinced that Selanne would still light it up on an NHL 2nd line. Richards? Not so much.

 

[Kupo]

I'm never one to turn down a 4th liner who can actually play hockey.

Grabner is irrelevant as a hockey player w/o the puck with open ice. He’s a 1 trick pony who can be effective under the perfect circumstances. But he’s by no means a guaranteed solid 4th line option unless you want him cherry picking for a break away.

I prefer someone close to Fast there, personally.

 

[Avery16]

Players like Fast, Hagelin and Grabner are valuable on the PK, even if they never score. Time spent rushing and dangling in the OZ is time the other team can’t shoot on you.

 

[UnSandvich]

For anyone who wants a laugh, I just saw a Montreal post on Armchair GM that had the following pair of trades with the Rangers:
1.
To MTL- Nils Lundkvist, Hunter Skinner, BUF 2021 3rd
To NY- Victor Mete

2.
To MTL- NY unprotected 2020 1st
To NY- CBJ 2020 2nd, STL 2020 2nd

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

For anyone who wants a laugh, I just saw a Montreal post on Armchair GM that had the following pair of trades with the Rangers:
1.
To MTL- Nils Lundkvist, Hunter Skinner, BUF 2021 3rd
To NY- Victor Mete

2.
To MTL- NY unprotected 2020 1st
To NY- CBJ 2020 2nd, STL 2020 2nd

I wouldn't even trade Hunter Skinner and a 3rd round pick for Victor Mete. I have 0 interest in Mete

 

[Irishguy42]

Lundkvist is the best player in that deal BY FAR

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lundkvist is the best player in that deal BY FAR

I think Lundkvist is a top-5 prospect outside the NHL. Top-3 among D-men with Byram and Romanov

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Hello again. I asked back when the season was actually going on, but do you all expect to re-sign Jesper Fast? And what do you think his next contract will look like?

And can he play LW?

Thanks!

 

[Miamipuck]

For anyone who wants a laugh, I just saw a Montreal post on Armchair GM that had the following pair of trades with the Rangers:
1.
To MTL- Nils Lundkvist, Hunter Skinner, BUF 2021 3rd
To NY- Victor Mete

2.
To MTL- NY unprotected 2020 1st
To NY- CBJ 2020 2nd, STL 2020 2nd

I am not sure why a Canadians fan had such a modest proposal. Why not ask the Rangers to throw in Fox to the deal to make it more equitable. I am sure Gorton would hop to the fax to send that into the league office.

 

[LokiDog]

This is accurate, but it’s an overused term. I’m convinced that Selanne would still light it up on an NHL 2nd line. Richards? Not so much.

Exactly. Grabner is an actual fitness freak. He makes Richards look like a potato. Like Grabner is one of those guys who posts videos of himself pulling 450lbs for reps and jumping out of swimming pools.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Hello again. I asked back when the season was actually going on, but do you all expect to re-sign Jesper Fast? And what do you think his next contract will look like?

And can he play LW?

Thanks!

the Rangers will be winning the draft lottery so will pass on Fast.

IMO, Fast is valuable yet we anticipate some pretty hefty salaries in the future so every million is going to count. Not sure what the Rangers will do.

Best case the Rangers let him go and another kid steps up.

Worst case is the Rangers let him go and sign a more costly veteran to take his place which doesn’t fit Fast’s role as well.

Not sure what will happen.

 

[LokiDog]

Grabner is irrelevant as a hockey player w/o the puck with open ice. He’s a 1 trick pony who can be effective under the perfect circumstances. But he’s by no means a guaranteed solid 4th line option unless you want him cherry picking for a break away.

I prefer someone close to Fast there, personally.

Offensively, he’s pretty barren outside of what you say. He’s not bad defensively when asked to focus on that role though, but the only reason I brought him up is he’s likely going to cost 1/3 or less than Fast on his next deal, so he could be a good veteran 4th liner who can slot up to other lines, for the cost.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I am not sure why a Canadians fan had such a modest proposal. Why not ask the Rangers to throw in Fox to the deal to make it more equitable. I am sure Gorton would hop to the fax to send that into the league office.

Mete: 171 games
Fox: 70 games

Rangers need to add. Experience matters

 

[romba]

I think Lundkvist is a top-5 prospect outside the NHL. Top-3 among D-men with Byram and Romanov

Sounds sweet, but I remember VK being THE top prospect outside the NHL. Though Nils is older and more mature as a player, and has looked the part for a few years now with steady growth in specific areas of his game (PP bomb, for example, seems to have become a weapon this past year)