Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VII: Now with less frenzy!

[Levitate]

ah yes the offseason "he was in bad shape last year but look at the instagram/twitter videos of him working out this year!"

e: lol I didn't watch the video before saying that, haha

Kreider has the unfair advantage of his legs being inside Smith's though

 

[NYR Viper]

I know a lot of this is leverage, but the fact that anyone can stick with Kreider is impressive. Good on Smith for getting after it hard. I'm rooting for him as I like the style he plays

 

[Avery16]

I know a lot of this is leverage, but the fact that anyone can stick with Kreider is impressive. Good on Smith for getting after it hard. I'm rooting for him as I like the style he plays

*played

There, I fixed it.

 

[Webster]

Oh boy...Kreider destroyed Smith

 

[RangerBoy]

The hockey advanced stats guys are starting to put their 2018-19 models/projections out.



Rangers are the 2nd worst team in the NHL in this model. 75 points. They had 77 points last season.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

It's the Human Centipede!

 

[silverfish]

Kreider is a f***ing tank.

 

[Ghost of jas]

The hockey advanced stats guys are starting to put their 2018-19 models/projections out.



Rangers are the 2nd worst team in the NHL in this model. 75 points. They had 77 points last season.

Expect most season previews to look like this. The Rangers are easily a bottom five team.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah there isn't a single person on the team who would fare well against Kreider in that.

 

[Fitzy]

The hockey advanced stats guys are starting to put their 2018-19 models/projections out.



Rangers are the 2nd worst team in the NHL in this model. 75 points. They had 77 points last season.

You friggin spoiled the ending for me RB. Now what am I going to do with my evenings this season.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Good. I hope the projections are wrong and they do worse than that. Jack. Hughes. Lets. Go.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You friggin spoiled the ending for me RB. Now what am I going to do with my evenings this season.

Drink heavily as you would if you didn't already know what was coming.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Bad teams win championships. Not all, but they are still pretty much the only teams that have won are the ones who were bad first. Enjoy this season. There is literally no worrying about anything until we get to the draft lottery. Enjoy watching the kids, enjoy not having to care about the outcome of the game. Enjoy the trades that will come, enjoy the assets the Rangers will gain in. order to help them in their rebuild. The team will be bad but going in with that expectation from the get-go should help ease that fact as we go through the season.

 

[Avery16]

wtf

 

[Blue Blooded]

I thought Smith would dominate any sumo-style competition, shouldn't have dropped all that weight!

 

[East Coast Bias]

Ahhh yes, now that we want to be bad, the advanced stats models showing we will suck are great.

When they were showing cracks the last couple years, it was WATCH THE GAME!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Ahhh yes, now that we want to be bad, the advanced stats models showing we will suck are great.

When they were showing cracks the last couple years, it was WATCH THE GAME!

Not for nothing, but those cracks where obvious as f*** to anyone who watched the games lol.

 

[Inferno]

Ahhh yes, now that we want to be bad, the advanced stats models showing we will suck are great.

When they were showing cracks the last couple years, it was WATCH THE GAME!

I actually think we'll be better than the projections...I do wonder how these models are going g to account for a different coach, different system, so many rookies. If you're using previous data, most of thesr players have played the majority of their careers in a system that says "eh... F*** it" when it comes to the defensive zone....Quinn has stressed how much of his system starts by defending well and aggressively trying to regain the puck.

Rangers didn't have a particularly effective forecheck...mainly because of shift length requirements...theyd constantly dump, chanbge and wait for the opposition.

Will be interesting to see how much of a difference Quinn will have.

 

[silverfish]

Not for nothing, but those cracks where obvious as **** to anyone who watched the games lol.

They really weren't. Try going back in time three years and pointing some of them out.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I actually think we'll be better than the projections...I do wonder how these models are going g to account for a different coach, different system, so many rookies. If you're using previous data, most of thesr players have played the majority of their careers in a system that says "eh... F*** it" when it comes to the defensive zone....Quinn has stressed how much of his system starts by defending well and aggressively trying to regain the puck.

Rangers didn't have a particularly effective forecheck...mainly because of shift length requirements...theyd constantly dump, chanbge and wait for the opposition.

Will be interesting to see how much of a difference Quinn will have.

Yeah those are variables that you can’t really quantify.

OTOH, we don’t really have a roster that is going to be very good at keeping the puck in the other end. I imagine KZB will be the only line that does it with any regularity.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

They really weren't. Try going back in time three years and pointing some of them out.

You mean when they were giving up a billion scoring chances and the only thing that kept them from having a season like last year was Hank playing out of his mind for 2 months?

It was obvious as f***.

 

[BBKers]

It's the Human Centipede!

Ya seen em all?
Sick stuff, I heard...

 

[silverfish]

You mean when they were giving up a billion scoring chances and the only thing that kept them from having a season like last year was Hank playing out of his mind for 2 months?

It was obvious as ****.

There's a reason why a lot of posters who used to post here don't post anymore. And it's because they pointed this out, backed it up with new metrics people didn't like, and essentially got chased from the boards.

So, no. It may have been obvious to you, but it was not obvious to everyone.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Forget new metrics. Any hockey fan who clearly couldn't see that Hank was the only difference from a bottom 3 pick and finishing a middling team just outside the bubble, clearly doesn't have much hockey sense.

The silver lining of last season to me was seeing that with Hanks compete level and will to win that he more than likely can be the goalie to back this team to a Cup even in 3 or 4 years when this new core is established and can actually compete for one. Things are looking good for this franchise.

 

[TheTakedown]

The hockey advanced stats guys are starting to put their 2018-19 models/projections out.



Rangers are the 2nd worst team in the NHL in this model. 75 points. They had 77 points last season.

Buffalo is STILL at the bottom.....

I'm not buying this. Ottawa should be dead last and by a massive chunk