Speculation: Roster Building Thread LII: Countdown to Free Agency

[eco's bones]

The fact that you don't understand the difference between players at different ages and the body's ability to heal is alarming. That's like day 1 stuff.

The fact that you don't understand that you're talking in generalities when comparing people at different ages is alarming too as no two persons are the same. Six straight years of no significant injuries before a concussion that put Pavelski out for two weeks tells me it wasn't a really serious concussion and concussions can happen to anyone playing the sport regardless of age at any time. There is no serious injury history.

 

[Inferno]

I don't say this because I want the Rangers to go all in this year, b/c I don't. They are still a bit away.

but how are we still saying this? An expansion team in the WC final, followed by the team that was the worst in the league at Christmas. AN EXPANSION team in the finals!

In the last 5 cup finals, the WC has had 5 different teams, the EC 4.

This league is pure parity. Nothing comes close to it

Vegas is a true outlier...I want to see the pundits who predict Seattle being good out the gate

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

 

[RGY]

The Rangers, for all their warts last season, were in games throughout the season under Coach Quinn.

Now you are going into another season with these kids. More experience. Another full season under Quinn knowing how he coaches and what his expectations are.

We have potentially 3 very capable goalies. We added in Trouba which changes the layout of the defense. Gives you a RD finally. Slides guys down into more suitable roles.

You add in Kakko and a solid vet forward. This team could battle and do some damage.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What is with the needing of a mentor?

Are these prospects going to really go off the rails should they only have Lundqvist, Staal, Zbad, Kreider, Namestnikov, Fast, Vesey, Strome to mentor them?

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Out of the box time, assuming we don't sign Panarin

Smith @ 3M for Backes & Studnicka

Backes sucks but we have had worse veterans play in our bottom 6.

We add a 3M on the cap, clear a space on D, and get another C prospect for our troubles.

Bruins save ~4M of cap space if they bury Smith for the next two years, over which time they have to sign McAvoy/Carlo/Debrusk/Grzelcyk. Krug/Miller/Coyle will all be UFA in that time, so the Bruins will desperately need the space if they want to keep competing.

The amount of retention can be worked with the make this deal more palatable for either side

 

[SA16]

Bobrovsky is already on the way to NY. That is a short meeting with Florida. I assume Panarin is with him. Did the meeting go poorly?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

The fact that you don't understand that you're talking in generalities when comparing people at different ages is alarming too as no two persons are the same. Six straight years of no significant injuries before a concussion that put Pavelski out for two weeks tells me it wasn't a really serious concussion and concussions can happen to anyone playing the sport regardless of age at any time. There is no serious injury history.

All Concussions are serious. They are especially more serious when they happen to older people who’s bodies heal differently than younger peoples. I suffered a “minor” concussion when I was 21 and I still feel effects of it 15 years later.

 

[Off Sides]

Well, he has played 3 full NHL seasons. Add Trouba, Shattenkirk if one likes.

 

[eco's bones]

All Concussions are serious. They are especially more serious when they happen to older people who’s bodies heal differently than younger peoples. I suffered a “minor” concussion when I was 21 and I still feel effects of it 15 years later.

We should dump Buchnevich then--he's had at least 2 in three years. But no one's saying concussions aren't serious but some are more serious than others. For instance Pavelski comes back from his in two weeks--that's a far cry from someone who has to live in a darkened and quiet house for months on end......because there are people who have more serious or who've had multiple concussions that take them to that kind of place.

 

[darko]

Out of the box time, assuming we don't sign Panarin

Smith @ 3M for Backes & Studnicka

Backes sucks but we have had worse veterans play in our bottom 6.

We add a 3M on the cap, clear a space on D, and get another C prospect for our troubles.

Bruins save ~4M of cap space if they bury Smith for the next two years, over which time they have to sign McAvoy/Carlo/Debrusk/Grzelcyk. Krug/Miller/Coyle will all be UFA in that time, so the Bruins will desperately need the space if they want to keep competing.

The amount of retention can be worked with the make this deal more palatable for either side

Why don't we just bury Smith?

 

[darko]

The Rangers, for all their warts last season, were in games throughout the season under Coach Quinn.

Now you are going into another season with these kids. More experience. Another full season under Quinn knowing how he coaches and what his expectations are.

We have potentially 3 very capable goalies. We added in Trouba which changes the layout of the defense. Gives you a RD finally. Slides guys down into more suitable roles.

You add in Kakko and a solid vet forward. This team could battle and do some damage.

Subtract Zucca and Hayes.

We aren't sniffing playoffs next season.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

We should dump Buchnevich then--he's had at least 2 in three years. But no one's saying concussions aren't serious but some are more serious than others. For instance Pavelski comes back from his in two weeks--that's a far cry from someone who has to live in a darkened and quiet house for months on end......because there are people who have more serious or who've had multiple concussions that take them to that kind of place.

How old is Buchnevich? This is like when people continue to bring up Buffalo and Edmonton in regards to rebuilding.

Pavelski came back in two weeks, should he have? Should Jake DeBrusk been playing? It's the playoffs, guys play when they shouldn't all the time. That doesn't help them heal either.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Why don't we just bury Smith?

Because that doesn't get us a center prospect, and if we aren't signing Panarin, the cap space isn't that important to us.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Subtract Zucca and Hayes.

We aren't sniffing playoffs next season.

Funny how people always forget this. Same last year with McDonagh, Grabner and Miller

 

[RGY]

All Concussions are serious. They are especially more serious when they happen to older people who’s bodies heal differently than younger peoples. I suffered a “minor” concussion when I was 21 and I still feel effects of it 15 years later.

If you had a concussion at 21 and still feel it 15 years later, it wasnt minor.

I had 3 concussions from age 18-25 playing college ball and ice hockey. All documented.

I dont feel the effects of any of them. It is not the same for any two people as @eco's bones is saying and he is right. You can try and claim Pavelski wont be the same because he is 35, but that is pure BS.

 

[RGY]

Subtract Zucca and Hayes.

We aren't sniffing playoffs next season.

Replace Zucc with Kakko.

Replace Hayes with a combination of a vet forward and Chytil increased production.

I dont know, I think they will surprise.

But a lot can still happen

 

[Fugazy]

Speculation: - Roster Building Thread LIII: Free Agent Frenzy