Salary Cap: Roster-Building Pt. XX | A Fleury of Fehr Proposals (Contract + Cap Info in 1st Post)

[Shrimper]

He brings size, PK ability, and enough skill to put up 20+ points from the 4th line.

That has some value for us, even if I'd be open to moving him in a deal for a low-cost top 6 player like TR was speculating (ie Hansen or someone). He's movable for the right deal, but he's not a liability or anything.

He's currently at 15 points through 62 games. For someone who scored 30+ points in the two seasons before joining us, that's not great. He's not a liability, but if we want to make a trade he is the first person I look to include.

 

[SEALBound]

He brings size, PK ability, and enough skill to put up 20+ points from the 4th line.

That has some value for us, even if I'd be open to moving him in a deal for a low-cost top 6 player like TR was speculating (ie Hansen or someone). He's movable for the right deal, but he's not a liability or anything.

His versatility as a center or wing and his pk ability makes me thing that he isn't going anywhere.

The only way I see him leaving are:

1. Expansion draft
2. Trade in which we need to send cap out and the other team requests him specifically and is actively factored into the value of the trade.
3. Is traded for picks at the TDL after being forced out by young kids.

In that order.

 

[WayneSid9987]

There may be some familiarity there with McIlrath and Sullivan. I imagine Sully seen him in development camps(maybe a training camp too) with the Rangers. So if the Pens did claim him, i'll know why but i see a team ahead of us claimng him first, pretty easily.

And trading Fehr just to play a Sundqvist or Guentzel doesn't make much sense to me atm.

My prority is the D right now. They need to sure up that middle pairing and with how Maatta is looking, it could be a serious issue.

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

I don't mind Fehr, and honestly $2 million isn't anything. We have a good mix of experience and youth I think, and I don't think we need to tinker with that much. He's a decent bottom sixer. I thought he would be a great utility guy that could step up and play top 6 wing when there were injuries but apparently not. He's still worth the price tag though, which honestly isn't very much.

 

[Gurglesons]

He's currently at 15 points through 62 games. For someone who scored 30+ points in the two seasons before joining us, that's not great. He's not a liability, but if we want to make a trade he is the first person I look to include.

He also was recovering from surgery last season. Every contender has a player like Fehr on their fourth line and we should not be getting rid of him at any cost, unless he's the only cap we can move to sign Geno a winger. Then again, Sully is finally playing Kessel with Malkin so who cares.

 

[billybudd]

Let's not forget that with no Eric Fehr, we're one or two injuries away from Kevin Porter spending the season in Pittsburgh. The two guys in WB that could be argued to fill the same sort of role are Sundqvist and Porter.

If there's a guy that can help us--and I mean really help us--maybe you start looking for ways to free up cap space and maybe his name comes up. What you don't do is start with the mentality that you need to get rid of him for no specific reason.

Fehr playing with Sundqvist in reserve >>>>> Sundqvist playing with Porter in reserve

 

[Empoleon8771]

What a disappointment Paajarvi turned out to be. And if DP is indeed out for "a while," a guy like McIlrath would make sense for a 6/7 spot. He wouldn't be bumping anyone with potential. Prow is in freakin' Wheeling and Bengtsson has freakin' Lyme disease. Those are the only two guys I'm really curious about. Otherwise we're one more injury away from Oleksy.

But alas, you're right. Someone will probably snag him.

Prow is actually back in WBS now, I think Percy got hurt and Warsofsky got recalled to the Penguins.

I don't really see a need in trading Fehr. I think having depth is fine, I would like to see him, Wilson, Kuhnhackl and Sheary rotating in the lineup.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I too would like the team to put in a claim for McIlrath. It makes sending down Sestito easier, and also Warsofsky. Two role players replaced by one. For a team up against the cap, that's huge.

Also, he is still only 24 years old. If he pans out, we wouldn't have to worry about Trouba. Not saying he is as good but the main reason to acquire Trouba is to add a more physical, shutdown component to the blueline brigade.

Start him out as the No. 7 defenseman and proceed from there. I would love to hear the Rangers' fans reaction if we claimed him. They are still miffed that Hagelin is ours.

I don't see any chance that he falls to us. Hence why I would have thrown a minor pick to NY earlier so they get some small value for him.

 

[Peat]

I'd like to add my voice to the Fehr appreciation. He fits what we do better than I thought. I won't cry if he gets moved for a good reason but it's got to be a good reason.

To be honest, I don't see any particular need for the Pens to look to trade right now.

 

[Konstantin Koltsov]

Are people sour on Fehr? I feel like he's been pretty much what I expected.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

Fehr has been one of our best players so far this season lol. Kuhn-Cullen-Fehr is one of the best 4th lines in the league.

Because all three players, especially Cullen and Fehr, are third line quality players. If the knock on Fehr is lack of scoring output, then we shouldn't use him almost exclusively for D zone faceoffs. He's always been deployed as a 2 way player in his career, and we're using him as a defensive specialist. Which is fine, but then you can't expect him to put up 20 goals a year.

He's been really good so far this year, not sure what people want out of him. I guess they want him to be Matt Cullen.

 

[etm124]

I think trading Eric Fehr is the priority at the moment, the guy just doesn't work for us and isn't worth the $2m he is on.

That's ridiculous.

Fehr can play up and down the lineup without being a defensive liability. Injuries are going to happen, and when they do, would you trust Porter or Sestito to fill that 4th line wing or C if they traded Fehr?

Nah.

We aren't that far removed from seeing guys like Kobasew, Adams, Vitale, Glass, Lapierre, and Engelland on our 4th line. Seeing Kuhn/Cullen/Fehr playing solid defensively, and chipping in goals is a relative new thing for our 4th.

 

[PensPlz]

Cullen and Fehr make up a good 4th line that has an identity. I know that's rare for this team, a 4th line with an identity, but let's not trade him.

 

[Gurglesons]

Cullen and Fehr make up a good 4th line that has an identity. I know that's rare for this team, a 4th line with an identity, but let's not trade him.

I mean I feel like Kuhnhackl is the key to that line though. Love that kid.

 

[SEALBound]

Cullen and Fehr make up a good 4th line that has an identity. I know that's rare for this team, a 4th line with an identity, but let's not trade him.

I mean I feel like Kuhnhackl is the key to that line though. Love that kid.

I was just gonna say, I would not at any time discount what Kuhnhackl has done for that 4th line. It's quite amazing to see how well those 3 play with each other. All 3 have what appears to be, the exact same mindset and approach to the game.

I love this team's 4th line right now.

I wouldn't hate a Kuhn-Cully-Rust 4th line either though in the event we upgraded the RW/LW on Malkin's line.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Fehrs numbers should start to reflect how good hes been looking now that he has Cullen instead of Sestito on his line. I mean ueah that line is still gonna get the sacrificial lamb treatment as far as d zone faceoffs against good competition but if they can be anywhere near 50% possession it will be a huge plus.

 

[Son Goku]

Are people sour on Fehr? I feel like he's been pretty much what I expected.

Shiny new toys

 

[Ugene Magic]

IC obviously had inside info on the Pens organization, ie was an employee of some sort. Im guessing someone figured out who he was and told him to choose between hfboards.com and his continued employment. Not a hard decision.

I work in the space industry, and I float around a bit on space related forums. It's very tempting to post there, but with the inside information I have I just can't.

So you have the inside track when they are going to blast a player to the moon.

He would be great for information on the Fleury situation. Ah well, he will be missed.

Is it really that hard to come back under an alias?

Start over and not copy and paste his past attributes?

 

[billybudd]

So you have the inside track when they are going to blast a player to the moon.

Good catch. I'm disappointed in you, Desert. You could have volunteered Craig Adams for the mission to Mars when it may have helped the hockey team.

 

[JTG]

If someone were to throw us decent assets for Fehr, I'd trade him. I don't think any team really would throw us much worthwhile, and he gives us great depth, and a really awesome 4th line.

 

[SEALBound]

Fehrs numbers should start to reflect how good hes been looking now that he has Cullen instead of Sestito on his line. I mean ueah that line is still gonna get the sacrificial lamb treatment as far as d zone faceoffs against good competition but if they can be anywhere near 50% possession it will be a huge plus.

Agreed. Especially when it's 4th line vs 4th line. Most team's 3rd line is equal to our 4th line. The fact that we have HBK as our 3rd is nuts.

Our weak point right now is Malkin's wings, IMHO. I'm not kosher, so to speak, with who's there right now.

 

[Corvidae]

Prow is actually back in WBS now, I think Percy got hurt and Warsofsky got recalled to the Penguins.

Cool. I hope he does well. He looked like he had some talent in preseason.

I don't see any chance that he falls to us. Hence why I would have thrown a minor pick to NY earlier so they get some small value for him.

I think the Ranger might rather lose him for nothing then trade him to the Pens. Their assumption would be that he'll go to a lesser team than help a direct competitor . Just a theory...

 

[MtlPenFan]

Looks like the Ducks want to move Fowler but don't really want to take a lot of salary back.

 

[SEALBound]

Looks like the Ducks want to move Fowler but don't really want to take a lot of salary back.

Only a handful of teams can do that. This sounds like something the Devils should be in on in all honesty.

 

[mpp9]

Looks like the Ducks want to move Fowler but don't really want to take a lot of salary back.

Despres on LTIR buys them time to make the right deal too.