TSN: Rishaug: Kane and Oilers were short term, Kane not interested in committing to Edmonton long term.

[chaser17]

All you gotta do is look at his track record and social media to see he won't wanna be in Edmonton long term. The guy cares about money and lifestyle which makes me think he wants to be in a southern US market. Vegas would be his first choice but that obviously isn't happening so I predict AZ, Anaheim, LA.

Having said that, I feel like teams won't be lining up for his services based on said reputation which makes me think Oilers will offer him the best deal out there.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Holland may know who to target but the fact that he’s been so unsuccessful at actually acquiring a goalie shows why he’s generally regarded as a poor GM.
I’d also add that him being a former goalie is fairly irrelevant as the position has changed so much. It’s like Benning being a former defenseman but he still couldn’t acquire a decent D to save his life.
Unless he finally goes all in on and upgrades the goalie position then the playoff results will not improve. A guy who went with a tandem of Smith and Koskinen for two years does not inspire confidence.
As for prospects stepping in and providing big contributions in their first year I’d say that’s mostly a hope. Longer term those prospects may or may not be key players.

Holland’s loyal to a fault, which is why I’m somewhat glad he’s being forced to act if Smith retires. But yes I agree; jury is out on whether Holland can actually land the guy. You don’t get points for trying. I’m just optimistic is all.

Also agree l on your prospects point. All I’m saying is that we do have prospects expected to make an impact in the near future. Doesn’t have to be just through point contributions. Bolstering the bottom 6 is valuable too, especially when you’re cap constrained.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

There’s a whole lot of “hope” here.

Also if you remove Barrie, Kassian, Foegele you still need to replace them with what is likely worse players if you’re looking to upgrade other spots.

I don’t really see any scenario where Edmonton comes back better next season, barring Holland giving away assets to clear some of the more heavy dead weight (Keith)

Hard to get worse than Kassian imo. You can pretty much replace or even add to what he brings for league min.

And Barrie would be replaced with a different type of D. Our corps is already looking to be locked up with Nurse / Ceci / Bouchard / Kulak / Keith / X (Barrie replacement) and Broberg.

Foegele only needs to be moved if we’re going big game hunting in net. Sign a cheaper guy (Reimer/Holtby like I mentioned) and you can pretty much run:

Hyman - McDavid - Puljujarvi
RNH - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Foegele - McLeod - Holloway
X - Ryan - X

Nurse - X (Barrie replacement)
Kulak - Ceci
Keith - Bouchard

X
Skinner

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Kane to Dallas.

Big city, southern US, less taxes

 

[kp61c]

I can really see Edmonton taking a pretty big fall this upcoming season.

No money for Kane, Keith and Smith a year older and worse, no upcoming prospects expected to make a big impact, no money to improve goaltending (really relying on Skinner coming through), no young guys expected to make a big jump, may lose one of Yamamoto or Puljujarvi

Could be a very rough year if Holland isn’t willing to part with picks to get rid of their bad contracts

i agree, looks like the championship window has closed for McDavid and Co already. brutal.

 

[FerrisRox]

Now, I know he is very good player but why on earth would any team commit more than 3 years to this guy? Do they really want to risk another SJ situation where he misbehaves and they have a whole mess on their hands? Simply put, it doesn’t make sense to make a long term commitment to Kane.

So he chooses them over the various other teams willing to give him three years. Pretty simple really.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Dumb, should have signed a 3 year/high AAV deal with Edmonton. Being a good citizen and putting up big numbers next to McDavid would put him in a great spot to land a big retirement contract after his age 33 season.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Hard to get worse than Kassian imo. You can pretty much replace or even add to what he brings for league min.

And Barrie would be replaced with a different type of D. Our corps is already looking to be locked up with Nurse / Ceci / Bouchard / Kulak / Keith / X (Barrie replacement) and Broberg.

Foegele only needs to be moved if we’re going big game hunting in net. Sign a cheaper guy (Reimer/Holtby like I mentioned) and you can pretty much run:

Hyman - McDavid - Puljujarvi
RNH - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Foegele - McLeod - Holloway
X - Ryan - X

Nurse - X (Barrie replacement)
Kulak - Ceci
Keith - Bouchard

X
Skinner

And that’s clearly a worse roster than this season IMO.

 

[DakrSnooze]

Gotta love the posters saying Edmonton will clearly be a worse club next season. It's far too early to say. Let's get through the draft and free agency first.

 

[HanSolo]

Lmao. Imagine getting a prime chance to rehab your career by playing with McDavid and then using the enflated stats you get from that to try to get more money elsewhere.

 

[Henkka]

Edmonton immediately goes back to having the worst wingers in the league ssns Kane.

But but... smarter people have said that you only win with elite 1a 1b Center duo.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Lmao. Imagine getting a prime chance to rehab your career by playing with McDavid and then using the enflated stats you get from that to try to get more money elsewhere.

Plenty of guys would do it.

Kane will get at least 8 million/year on the open market.

 

[ottawa]

Lmao. Imagine getting a prime chance to rehab your career by playing with McDavid and then using the enflated stats you get from that to try to get more money elsewhere.

Mara Teigan probably doesn't want to stay in Edmonton for 3 years. Las Vegas girls can't handle our Canadian winters.

 

[Three On Zero]

Lmao. Imagine getting a prime chance to rehab your career by playing with McDavid and then using the enflated stats you get from that to try to get more money elsewhere.

Tyson Barrie did the exact same thing, no one saw through it and he stayed in Edmonton. Doubtful it works for Kane

 

[LeapOnOver]

He paced for 72pts last year in SJ, led the team. I get people don't like him but there's no reason to lie about his talent.

Bare minimum, he's a 60pt guy that provides a physical element. A team will give him a 2-3 year contract @ something like 7M and the risk is not really there.

You seem to not understand the term risk.

 

[therealkoho]

His best bet would be to take a modest contract in Edmonton and behave himself. I can't imagine a much better deal than merely getting a team to sign you at the moment. Especially while the rest of his crap plays out.

That's even IF he can resign with anyone. He may be "back" in SJ before too long. Then it's "who will take him at $X.X for 3yrs".

"Behave?"

We are talking about Evander Kane here, the guy for whatever reason sees himself as a complete thug, it has become his reason for being. It's been everywhere he goes, it isn't something he seems able to leave behind. He is such a solid player, but his lack of character may always be his worst enemy.

 

[alphahelix]

There’s a whole lot of “hope” here.

Also if you remove Barrie, Kassian, Foegele you still need to replace them with what is likely worse players if you’re looking to upgrade other spots.

I don’t really see any scenario where Edmonton comes back better next season, barring Holland giving away assets to clear some of the more heavy dead weight (Keith)

I don’t disagree with your relative thrust, though I do think its a bit hyperbolic - if the Oilers dont sign Kane they will have some cap flexibility, and have a few players, picks and prospect that are solid currency.

But you are definitely wrong about the Oilers prospect system. Xavier Bourgault is maybe the best prospect in the Q, Matvey Petrov is among the top in the OHL, Dylan Holloway was one of the best in the NCAA before his scaphoid injury, Broberg is blue chip all-the-way, and they have a slough of other prospects performing strongly in the AHL and other minor leagues. The system is actually at one of the best places its been in franchise history, aside from the insanely unique period of early 80’s draft successes.

Bourgault was one of the last cuts at camp last year, Holloway may have played in LAST YEARS playoffs if not for the scaphoid injury coming off an elite season, and Broberg and Skinner will break camp this year with the team. Broberg and Niemalainen both played over 20 games this year and both were immediately noticeable in the games they played. The Oilers have key prospects breaking in for impact positions at exactly the time they need them. Theres no Connor McDavid incoming, but how many teams have that? 0? Oilers are in great shape for reinforcements. Holland has been “overrippening” a few and they will be making an impact next season.

 

[SEALBound]

"Behave?"

We are talking about Evander Kane here, the guy for whatever reason sees himself as a complete thug, it has become his reason for being. It's been everywhere he goes, it isn't something he seems able to leave behind. He is such a solid player, but his lack of character may always be his worst enemy.

I don't disagree although I don't believe I heard anything negative about him during his time in Edmonton - off-ice anyway. So maybe he's picking a better path? People can and do change.

That said, it's also why I said "his best bet would be..."

 

[wetcoast]

He isnt signing with anyone for shorter than 3 years. He wants/needs security.

The funny thing is, Edmonton is probably one of the most likely teams to give him a 3 yrs or longer contract but it sounds like Kane doesnt want to be in Edmonton for the long of a time.

Honestly this would be consistent with the rest of his poor choices over the years...at least he would be consistent.

It will be very interesting to see what happens, like waiting for the train to go off the rails....

 

[JackSlater]

Really liked how he looked in Edmonton, no matter what he does now the way he handled this season was very smart.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I don’t disagree with your relative thrust, though I do think its a bit hyperbolic - if the Oilers dont sign Kane they will have some cap flexibility, and have a few players, picks and prospect that are solid currency.

But you are definitely wrong about the Oilers prospect system. Xavier Bourgault is maybe the best prospect in the Q, Matvey Petrov is among the top in the OHL, Dylan Holloway was one of the best in the NCAA before his scaphoid injury, Broberg is blue chip all-the-way, and they have a slough of other prospects performing strongly in the AHL and other minor leagues. The system is actually at one of the best places its been in franchise history, aside from the insanely unique period of early 80’s draft successes.

Bourgault was one of the last cuts at camp last year, Holloway may have played in LAST YEARS playoffs if not for the scaphoid injury coming off an elite season, and Broberg and Skinner will break camp this year with the team. Broberg and Niemalainen both played over 20 games this year and both were immediately noticeable in the games they played. The Oilers have key prospects breaking in for impact positions at exactly the time they need them. Theres no Connor McDavid incoming, but how many teams have that? 0? Oilers are in great shape for reinforcements. Holland has been “overrippening” a few and they will be making an impact next season.

I expect every prospect you just listed to be nothing else than depth for next season at best. Someday Holloway and Borgault might be elite impact players, but I strongly doubt it next year.

Skinner is the question mark, he looked decent but it’s very risky to rely on a rookie goalie.

I doubt Broberg ever becomes anything meaningful

 

[Macheteops]

I don’t disagree with your relative thrust, though I do think its a bit hyperbolic - if the Oilers dont sign Kane they will have some cap flexibility, and have a few players, picks and prospect that are solid currency.

But you are definitely wrong about the Oilers prospect system. Xavier Bourgault is maybe the best prospect in the Q, Matvey Petrov is among the top in the OHL, Dylan Holloway was one of the best in the NCAA before his scaphoid injury, Broberg is blue chip all-the-way, and they have a slough of other prospects performing strongly in the AHL and other minor leagues. The system is actually at one of the best places its been in franchise history, aside from the insanely unique period of early 80’s draft successes.

Bourgault was one of the last cuts at camp last year, Holloway may have played in LAST YEARS playoffs if not for the scaphoid injury coming off an elite season, and Broberg and Skinner will break camp this year with the team. Broberg and Niemalainen both played over 20 games this year and both were immediately noticeable in the games they played. The Oilers have key prospects breaking in for impact positions at exactly the time they need them. Theres no Connor McDavid incoming, but how many teams have that? 0? Oilers are in great shape for reinforcements. Holland has been “overrippening” a few and they will be making an impact next season.

Broberg was immediately noticeable as in not very impressive during his tenure with the Oilers. He is still young and I do agree they have some good young players coming up

 

[Bond]

Tyson Barrie did the exact same thing, no one saw through it and he stayed in Edmonton. Doubtful it works for Kane

Barrie and Kane are different players. Kane is a top line winger and Barrie is a power play specialist who is suspect on defense.

 

[alphahelix]

Broberg was immediately noticeable as in not very impressive during his tenure with the Oilers. He is still young and I do agree they have some good young players coming up

Broberg had to play limited minutes on his off-side in his last call-up, and no D on the Oilers get sheltered while guys like Tyson Barrie are there Eating the soft minutes. Oilers are a tough team to come into as a rookie (Bouchard played 7 minutes short handed in the 1st game of the season as a rookie) but Broberg started producing strong offence in the AHL as the season went along and clearly has elite toolbox with size speed and smarts. He is guaranteed top 4, but its too early to tell if he’ll ever be a top-pairing guy. That is still nothing to sneeze at for a guy on an ELC coming into camp. Very few teams will be breaking in superior D-men next season. Are we comparing him to Cale Makar or someone more realistic like Soderstrom or Edvinsson? Maybe Jake Sanderson will outperform him next year, maybe not. Theres only a handful in that tier imo & he will be a strong contributor as a rookie at least in a top 6 role, maybe higher by the end.

 

[BudBundy]

No surprise regarding Kane probably leaving. A fishbowl Canadian market was never going to be a good fit regardless of how well he fit the team on the ice. It was a good run. The Oilers got a good boost and Kane likely resurrected his career. He will get a very lucrative contract somewhere and the Oilers will be better off spending on the blue line and back, while hoping Puljujarvi takes the next step.