Proposal: Rickard Rakell To Ottawa

[eternalbedhead]

I like Lazar, and value-wise the OP is good in a vacuum (if not weighted in our favor; I can't see Ottawa trading their 1st again, especially with how the Ryan trade worked out), but not for Rakell. We don't need a more defensively-oriented center if Rakell is going the other way. The skill and vision that Rakell has is not very common in our system.

 

[Sojourn]

Just offersheet him and give up a second

You need a 2nd to do that.

 

[Xspyrit]

Not interested in moving the 1st. Ottawa has well enough offensive depth, no need to do that at all, and to add salary in the process, money that could be saved for later for re-signing core players

And just as I am saying that...I learn that lazar has mono, and that both Stone and MacArthur suffer concussion symptoms

I like Lazar, and value-wise the OP is good in a vacuum (if not weighted in our favor; I can't see Ottawa trading their 1st again, especially with how the Ryan trade worked out), but not for Rakell. We don't need a more defensively-oriented center if Rakell is going the other way. The skill and vision that Rakell has is not very common in our system.

In my perspective, the Ryan trade worked really well for the Sens. Ryan produced 57 pts per 82 games in his first 3 seasons (first 2 years were at a $5,562,500 salary) and only gave up a (great) 3rd liner, an injured prospect who will unfortunately bust and a 10th OA pick in very bad draft year (Ritchie is not that great of a prospect IMO)

Maybe Anaheim fans like it as well, no problem. I'd still do that trade any day of the week. Always try to trade quantity for quality

Lol rakell >>>> lazar

The brilliant multiple ">" comparisons! One of the best things on HF

 

[eternalbedhead]

In my perspective, the Ryan trade worked really well for the Sens. Ryan produced 57 pts per 82 games in his first 3 seasons (first 2 years were at a $5,562,500 salary) and only gave up a (great) 3rd liner, an injured prospect who will unfortunately bust and a 10th OA pick in very bad draft year (Ritchie is not that great of a prospect IMO)

Maybe Anaheim fans like it as well, no problem. I'd still do that trade any day of the week. Always try to trade quantity for quality

Ryan and Silfverberg are both 2nd liners at this point. Ryan is better offensively despite failing to meet lofty expectations, yet Silfverberg is (much) better defensively, and still put up a 20 goal season despite getting some of the hardest minutes on the team. Ritchie has top 6 potential. Whether he reaches that or not is another matter, but there's been very promising signs in training camp. In that I mean that some of the issues that he was having last season (primarily fitness and skating), seem much improved. Looking back at what we could have had at 10, is Ritchie the best there was? Absolutely not. It doesn't mean he can't iron out a top 6 role with us in the future, especially considering that he fits our playing style to a T. Noesen, though his career has been marred by injury, could still iron out a bottom 6 role some time in the future.


Did either team get the worldbreakers they might have expected? No. On the flipside of the optimism I showed in the last paragraph, there's also a very sizeable chance that Silfverberg could be the only legitimate NHL forward we get. We just can't tell yet.

 

[Stuzchuk]

OTT does not own a 2nd in 2017 & 2018...

 

[HOPE]

can he play LW?

 

[Ducks Nation*]

can he play LW?

He flourished at lw

 

[KaseMeOutside]

And just as I am saying that...I learn that lazar has mono, and that both Stone and MacArthur suffer concussion symptoms



In my perspective, the Ryan trade worked really well for the Sens. Ryan produced 57 pts per 82 games in his first 3 seasons (first 2 years were at a $5,562,500 salary) and only gave up a (great) 3rd liner, an injured prospect who will unfortunately bust and a 10th OA pick in very bad draft year (Ritchie is not that great of a prospect IMO)

Maybe Anaheim fans like it as well, no problem. I'd still do that trade any day of the week. Always try to trade quantity for quality



The brilliant multiple ">" comparisons! One of the best things on HF

well that is certainly about as pro sens spin as you can get.


that "3rd liner" is apart of an elite two way line that plays against the opponents top players every night, and still manages to come well ahead in possession numbers, despite a large amount of defensive zone starts, against said top players.

20 goals, one of the best defensive and possession wingers in the league, in addition to being a very good PK'er, that is some definition of 3rd liner you have there.

 

[Liver King]

what are the chances he gets moved?

with Mac injured id move our 1st for him

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

what are the chances he gets moved?

with Mac injured id move our 1st for him

I'd seriously consider it...

First I'd try to see the situation in TB with Palat/Kucherov.

 

[JetsFan815]

After pre-season injuries the Sens are having, the last thing they should be doing is giving up a 2017 1st round pick

 

[Halla]

Not interested in trading someone who had top 6 offensive numbers for someone with 3rd line offensive numbers. We need more offense not less.

have you ever been interested in a deal?

this is a former 17th overall pick and a potential top 10 pick.....

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

have you ever been interested in a deal?

this is a former 17th overall pick and a potential top 10 pick.....

So... yakupov is a 1st overall pick... what does thst have to do with anything... maybe you should trade jvr for yakupov.


We don't have to trade anyone, we're a competitive team year after year, that keeps a strong system to continue to be successful.

 

[Liver King]

After pre-season injuries the Sens are having, the last thing they should be doing is giving up a 2017 1st round pick

yeah its definitely risky, but Rakell is a 23 year old former 1st rounder - ready now asset that is a proven 20 goal scorer. As long as we dont win the lottery it could still be worth it lol

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Too much from Ottawa, Rackell is good but a potential top 5 pick in the 2017 draft is a bit much.

 

[SenzZen]

After pre-season injuries the Sens are having, the last thing they should be doing is giving up a 2017 1st round pick

But Ottawa can't afford to waste more years of Karlsson's prime, either.

 

[Liver King]

Too much from Ottawa, Rackell is good but a potential top 5 pick in the 2017 draft is a bit much.

Well, I dont think we are a bottom 5 team with Rakell added to the top 6. Could miss the playoffs still, but the team really isn't that bad

 

[Uchiha]

Well, I dont think we are a bottom 5 team with Rakell added to the top 6. Could miss the playoffs still, but the team really isn't that bad

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Rakell - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Lazar

Playoffs is a must and I think that top 9 will get us past the first round. I'll be willing to trade a 1st that'll likely not have an impact for about 2-3 years.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Colin White
2018 1st

For

Rakell
Roy

 

[Ducks in a row]

Colin White
2018 1st

For

Rakell
Roy

Nope

 

[Hale The Villain]

Colin White
2018 1st

For

Rakell
Roy

Sens don't have the money for Rakell and that's an overpayment.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Colin White
2018 1st

For

Rakell
Roy

Lool, I'm good, fam.

 

[rt]

OTT does not own a 2nd in 2017 & 2018...

Arizona can fix that. Rieder+'18 2nd for Lazar+Sieloff.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Arizona can fix that. Rieder+'18 2nd for Lazar+Sieloff.

Done. But tbh, Reider constantly holding out seems a bit of a concern.

 

[rt]

Done. But tbh, Reider constantly holding out seems a bit of a concern.

He hasn't held out yet. Technically. He wants 2.5m x 2yr. The club is offering 2.15m x 2yr. If we have to eat Borowiecki's contract to make it work, the pick becomes a 3rd.