Rest in Peace - Canadiens1958

[quoipourquoi]

He was always so polite to me. Doing back-to-back projects, there’s a lot of interaction - not all of it positive - but there was always a “please” or a “thank you” in the private messages or words of encouragement when he could tell I was about to blow up at someone. Even when he and I would go back-and-forth, it never felt personal; most of my “Likes” are probably from him, because even when he was about to tear apart my analysis and present his alternative view, he seemed to appreciate my attempt.

In a forum where the more time we all spend together, the more similar we view things, his was an important voice. He may have had controversial opinions, but he gave them credibility.

 

[Sanf]

Very sad news.

Like vadim I have to say Canadiens1958 is the one who has affected someways on how I watch hockey. Especially goaltending. Always considered that his strength was hockey talk. When he was talking about the game itself. And his passion to anything related to hockey.

Our conversations were usually very polite, but I do understand why people got clashes with him. Some may remember his views on Hugh Lehman in the goalie project. Lehman being a product of PCHA. Those opinions drove me in hours and hours of research to try to understand how goalies played pre forward pass to early days of hockey. And that wasn´t the only time he drove me to do research.

I always thought he was born in early 50´s. He once asked a question about goalie named Benoit Perreault and if anybody had seen him playing in Europe. Grew in the same street and referred himself as older kid playing in the same rinks. And Perreault is born in 1956.

 

[Kyle McMahon]

wow, this is really sad. no offence to everyone else, but he might actually be the only poster who in some ways changed the way i watch the game. of course others are extremely insightful too but i think i have learned a lot of facts from others, have gained a lot of knowledge, have thought in new ways about how and why we rank guys or prefer certain things to others, but with c1958 because he often posted in riddles and because i so respected his experience and knowledge, i would really think hard about the logic behind what he was getting at when i was reading him. and as a result i learned a lot about the way he saw the game strategically.

I'll echo these thoughts.

In terms of historical knowledge that can't simply be looked up or reconstructed through diligent research, I find it hard to believe I could ever learn more from anyone else than I did from C1958. He offered a one-of-a-kind perspective and insight that just can't be found anywhere else. This board was made that much better by his regular presence here, and unfortunately we're all a little worse off going forward. He'll be dearly missed. Rest in peace, my friend.

 

[tony d]

Very sad to hear this. He was quite knowledgeable. May he rest in peace.

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

Please MODS... let us bump up c1958 thread posts.

I would love to honour him by taking a deep dive into his posts this week. But i ain't gonna if another mod warning for bumping old threads is entailed.

I like the spirit of this idea- but I think a better idea would be to have a unified thread, titled something like "The Quotable Canadiens1958," to which we could take turns finding a noteworthy C1958 post and quoting the contribution, one at a time, to be cited before each of the remaining 55 Montreal Canadiens games- and continuing on into the playoffs, if fate will allow.

Canadiens1958 (it feels strange to call him "Andrew") has been on HFBoards for around 12 years.
...I feel bad I never offered to meet him for a beer.

Many of us interacted with 'Canadiens1958,' and I've no doubt the luckier few got to encounter 'Andrew.' I've occasionally thought that if we could have bent elbows as Andrew and Ric, rather than 'Canadiens1958' and 'ChiTownPhilly,' we could have had a friendlier dialog than the one that ensued.

A toast to you, Andrew- even if I know I'll get no better than an imaginary glass-clink in return. The beer stays in the fridge; this is what I raise, instead:

This one goes out to you. May eternal peace be with your soul, and may G_d grant comfort and consolation to your family, and all of us here, as well.

 

[byrone12]

It was always a thrill for me, when I was a kid, to get a parcel in the mail from Andy’s Cartophilium.

More hockey cards! Awesome!

I attended a game with Andy in 1980 at the the Montreal Forum, saw the Hartford Whalers (in Gordie Howe's last visit to the Forum as a player) play the Habs. I was just a kid at the time, visiting Montreal from my home in Charlottetown, and in awe of seeing an NHL game in person, and of spending some time with Andy.

Thanks Andy for all the hockey cards over the years

 

[Fenway]

Please MODS... let us bump up c1958 thread posts.

I would love to honour him by taking a deep dive into his posts this week. But i ain't gonna if another mod warning for bumping old threads is entailed.

Give us until Christmas to rock c1958 threads! LIKE THIS POST TO HELP MAKE IT SO!.

Here is an index of threads started by him - feel free to bump

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/search/6192025/

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Here is an index of threads started by him - feel free to bump

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/search/6192025/

I don't think the search function is transferrable (when anyone other than you clicks on this, it won't work), but I agree 100% with the thesis - to anyone reading this, please bump any Andrew threads that seem appropriate.

 

[tarheelhockey]

At times, C58 pissed me off more than almost anyone else on this forum.

Simultaneously, C58 made me a much better hockey fan. I hold opinions about the game that I ascribe specifically to him drip-drip-drip’ing arguments into my head until I finally got it.

I like the phrase upthread... he was a load-bearing beam in this community. Just yesterday I Googled a history topic and the first/most useful result was a HF thread where he featured prominently with a contrarian stance. That legacy will stay alive for the foreseeable future.

 

[Bondurant]

Canadiens1958 was not a user that I was familiar with. I don't poke around History all that often. Sad to hear and my condolences to friends and family. It is amazing how a community can be built online. Even posting on a message board can create a lasting impression on others. Godspeed.

 

[HisIceness]

Condolences to his friends and family. RIP.

 

[FerrisRox]

Sad to hear this news, another quality poster gone.

This reminds me... what ever happened to Killion, who was a regular contributor to The History Of Hockey board and seems to have been radio silent now for about a year...? Anyone know?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Damn, RIP.

Had plenty of good back and forths on here with him. Always made his point respectfully and with intelligence. Even his opinions that were against the grain were backed by a knowledge that made you consider them.

Was an absolute pleasure to talk hockey with him

 

[Namba 17]

My condolences.
RIP.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Sad to hear this news, another quality poster gone.

This reminds me... what ever happened to Killion, who was a regular contributor to The History Of Hockey board and seems to have been radio silent now for about a year...? Anyone know?

See this post:
Rest in Peace - Canadiens1958

 

[Elvis P]

He was a good man.

 

[Big Phil]

Sorry to hear that. Yeah, I had a lot of back and forth with him. This board is like that, it isn't Twitter or Facebook or Youtube or even the main board on this website. People who are on here love the game and will back up what they believe. We'll always disagree on things but the back and forth without name calling is a refreshing thing. Andrew and I (obviously I never knew his name, always knew his profile name and the picture he had of Doug Harvey) had some debates and they were fun because he always responded and so did I. But I always appreciated him and his contributions.

 

[Black Gold Extractor]

I agree with the consensus opinion here. Canadiens1958/Andrew was someone who often made me think about the game in different ways, and he was someone who was respectful even when butting heads with other posters. All of my conversations with him were positive, and I regret that we will never have another chance to interact.

I offer my deepest condolences to his family.

 

[BadgerBruce]

How will I remember Andy?

First and foremost, as a passionate believer in the power of sport and education to transform individual lives and entire societies. Andy greatly admired those educational institutions dedicated to nurturing the whole person through a blend of sport and study, and he saw hockey as an essential tool to create better people and better communities.

Secondly, Andy revered the men and women who, during the post-war years, returned from military service and quickly took on the task of erecting sport facilities and organizing activities for the nation’s youth. Service clubs — Kiwanis, Lions, Rotary and the like — were similarly praiseworthy when their memberships focused on providing athletic opportunities for kids from all walks of life, without prejudice.

Finally, our mutual friend had hockey in his blood, absolutely coursing through his veins. We all share this condition, part inexplicable malady and part passionate love affair. It’s not always pretty, but it’s always genuine and authentic. Just like Andy.

Rest, friend. Rest well.

 

[FerrisRox]

I talk to Killion often and he is well.

He told me that Andrew chose his username to honor the 1958 Canadiens which he considered the greatest team of all time.

Why does Killion no longer post here?

 

[FerrisRox]

I had put him in touch with suits at Sportsnet as he wanted to bring Hometown Hockey to the Eastern Townships where he lived and when the schedule came out last night's Montreal at Boston game seemed to be the perfect fit. During the SCF I spent a few minutes with Ron MacLean and was trying to sell him on the town of Stanstead just south of where Andrew lived. The town would have a perfect fit for a Boston/Montreal game as it is located right on the border with Vermont and the venue would have been the Pat Burns Arena - how perfect.

Alas the suits decided on Red Deer, Alberta

A large factor in determining the locations for that show are the players that came from the towns they are in, and, moreso, players that are ideally playing in the league or recent enough retirees that they can appear on the episode representing their town and still have some name/face recognition for the viewing audience.

Does Stanstead have a history of producing NHL players? Beyond Mark Jankowski playing at Stanstead College, I couldn't find any in an admittedly quick look. If not, that would certainly have been a factor that would have sunk it as a possible location.

 

[wetcoast]

I didn't understand him at times.
I certainly didn't 'get' a lot of his replies to my comments.
I wondered if there was a generation gap, 2nd language gap or other cultural/personality difference i just couldn't pinpoint.

I would shrug. But sometimes i was wide eyed, as, he could be interesting and refreshing.

Wish i'd known him better.

This pretty much sums it up for me as well as I often find contrary views to be more interesting than one that I agree with.

RIP you will be sorely missed but your contributions will live on and condolences to your family and friends.

 

[Fenway]

A slight correction passed on by Killion

I see you wrote "1958 Habs C58's All Time Greatest Team".... Thats incorrect. He was simply "paying tribute" to that Dynasty. He was also a huge fan of the 70's teams & "The forgotten Dynasty" of the 60's. But if pressed, generally went with the 70's Bowman clubs.

 

[ted2019]

As with many on here, I didn't always get along with Andrew, but his knowledge of the history of the sport we all love made me respect him.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I enjoyed his posts, especially if I didn't agree with them. Condolences to the family.