Reid Boucher

[MadDevil]

even if you give Pete 100% full credit for Henrique, what about everyone else? Larsson, Gelinas, Josefson, etc.?

I think it's still too early to tell with the defensemen, given how long they typically take to develop. As much as Pete "hates kids" we had two rookie defensemen play 50+ games and average over 16 minutes a night. Josefson you can make a case for possibly being held back. Tedenby was just a bust. Beyond that I think the "mishandling" of our kids is overblown.

 

[JimEIV]

If anyone thinks Larsson being sent down has anything to do with DeBoer... Well, they just don't understand how any of this works.

At the very least that was a 90% Lou decision. More likely 100%.

 

[MichaelJ]

Was this a joke?

Sarcasm

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

I think it's still too early to tell with the defensemen, given how long they typically take to develop. As much as Pete "hates kids" we had two rookie defensemen play 50+ games and average over 16 minutes a night. Josefson you can make a case for possibly being held back. Tedenby was just a bust. Beyond that I think the "mishandling" of our kids is overblown.

Josefson's the weirdest case to me, because he was Kovalchuk's center when the 2011-2012 season started. And he certainly didn't look out of place. Then he gets hurt, gets some looks on the fourth line at the end of the season, and just like that he's out of site and out of mind.

Josefson and Tedenby (and to a lesser extent Larsson and Gelinas) are prime examples of why Boucher should be kept in Albany. Let him hone his skills in a lower-pressure environment where a coach won't need to bench him in the third, or limit his minutes in a tight game, or drop him down a line if he makes a mistake. Kids need to play. If he can PLAY in the NHL, keep him up. But I doubt that's the case. He's already shown some really impressive work ethic, getting his skating up to par two summers ago after a little chat with Lou. I don't think he'll be a "hands on" kinda prospect. Forwards will get injured next season and if he's playing well, he'll get another shot.

 

[Rare]

I really liked what I saw from the kid when we called him up. I think another year in the AHL will do him wonders.

 

[devilsblood]

If anyone thinks Larsson being sent down has anything to do with DeBoer... Well, they just don't understand how any of this works.

At the very least that was a 90% Lou decision. More likely 100%.

But I think Lou did so in light of Pete's unwillingness to play Larsson.

 

[JimEIV]

But I think Lou did so in light of Pete's unwillingness to play Larsson.

Larsson was playing regularly when he got sent down. He wasn't scratched and he was getting a regular shift...for comparison purposes Greene was playing about 25 minutes a night while taking about 30 shifts.

Here are his last 10 games with the number of shifts and minutes...He got virtually no special team play so these minutes are a bit bigger than they appear.


NOV 23 '13 NJD @ SJS 22 16:57
NOV 21 '13 NJD @ LAK 26 19:33
NOV 20 '13 NJD @ ANA 26 19:51
NOV 16 '13 PIT @ NJD* 24 15:56
NOV 15 '13 LAK @ NJD 23 17:01
NOV 12 '13 NJD @ NYR 25 17:16
NOV 10 '13 NSH @ NJD 18 17:07
NOV 08 '13 NJD @ TOR 24 18:35
NOV 07 '13 NJD @ PHI 22 14:45
NOV 03 '13 NJD @ MIN 31 26:24

 

[BrodeursCups]

Pete has done nothing to "ruin" Larsson. Kid's gap control and ability to deal with speed to the outside are both horrendous. That's a Larsson issue - not a PD issue. Not to mention his mobility is painfully average...

After a bit of a rough start, Merrill had no problem logging 19 per and taking care of his own end. That's how you stay in the lineup - the offense will come.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Pete has done nothing to "ruin" Larsson. Kid's gap control and ability to deal with speed to the outside are both horrendous. That's a Larsson issue - not a PD issue. Not to mention his mobility is painfully average...

After a bit of a rough start, Merrill had no problem logging 19 per and taking care of his own end. That's how you stay in the lineup - the offense will come.

so its not Pete's job to help teach that?

 

[Devils Dominion]

Pete has done nothing to "ruin" Larsson. Kid's gap control and ability to deal with speed to the outside are both horrendous. That's a Larsson issue - not a PD issue. Not to mention his mobility is painfully average...

After a bit of a rough start, Merrill had no problem logging 19 per and taking care of his own end. That's how you stay in the lineup - the offense will come.

Are you saying Conte whiffed again and we should have drafted Hamilton, Strome or Brodin?

 

[BrodeursCups]

Are you saying Conte whiffed again and we should have drafted Hamilton, Strome or Brodin?

No way am I reaching for that this early in his career, but there are some things in his game I absolutely don't like. I think his overall skating and stride are massive issues and will limit how good he can be.

Brodin certainly looks like a solid Dman early on, but playing next to one of the best all-around D in the game certainly makes the transition an easier one. And his skating is ridiculously smooth.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Are you saying Conte whiffed again and we should have drafted Hamilton, Strome or Brodin?

Here we go again.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

you can fault a lot of things about this organization but taking Larsson in 2011 is not one of them.

 

[SeidoN]

Larsson at 4 was a nobrainer. in fact alot of analysts were calling it the steal of the draft, much like Jones

 

[DatBoyJPP]

Larsson was playing regularly when he got sent down. He wasn't scratched and he was getting a regular shift...for comparison purposes Greene was playing about 25 minutes a night while taking about 30 shifts.

Here are his last 10 games with the number of shifts and minutes...He got virtually no special team play so these minutes are a bit bigger than they appear.


NOV 23 '13 NJD @ SJS 22 16:57
NOV 21 '13 NJD @ LAK 26 19:33
NOV 20 '13 NJD @ ANA 26 19:51
NOV 16 '13 PIT @ NJD* 24 15:56
NOV 15 '13 LAK @ NJD 23 17:01
NOV 12 '13 NJD @ NYR 25 17:16
NOV 10 '13 NSH @ NJD 18 17:07
NOV 08 '13 NJD @ TOR 24 18:35
NOV 07 '13 NJD @ PHI 22 14:45
NOV 03 '13 NJD @ MIN 31 26:24

He got sent down in January. So yea those 0 minutes he got in December was playing regularly

 

[JimEIV]

He got sent down in January. So yea those 0 minutes he got in December was playing regularly

What a knucklehead


Adam Larsson (lower body) will miss Friday's game.
Larsson hasn't played since Nov. 23. He has a goal and two assists in 20 games this season.
Source: Tom Gulitti on Twitter Jan 1 - 12:11 PM

Adam Larsson (lower body) resumed skating last week.
Coach Pete DeBoer said Larsson suffered "a fairly significant injury" when he crashed into the boards on Nov. 23 in San Jose. DeBoer described the lower-body injury as "a pretty standard kind of four-to-six week type thing." He has been skating on his own lately.
Source: The Bergen Record Thu, Dec 19, 2013 04:40:00 PM

Adam Larsson - D - Devils
The New Jersey Devils placed Adam Larsson on the injured reserve retroactive to Nov. 23 on Sunday.
Sun, Dec 1, 2013 01:51:00 PM

Adam Larsson - D - Devils
Adam Larsson won't play Monday because of a lower-body injury.
He was hurt when he lost an edge and crashed into the boards during the third period of Saturday's loss to San Jose. Larsson has one goal and two assists in 20 games this season.
Source: The Bergen Record Mon, Nov 25, 2013 02:48:00 PM

 

[BahlDeep]

so its not Pete's job to help teach that?

What if Larsson isn't capable of doing it?

 

[Tedenboozled]

What a knucklehead


Adam Larsson (lower body) will miss Friday's game.
Larsson hasn't played since Nov. 23. He has a goal and two assists in 20 games this season.
Source: Tom Gulitti on Twitter Jan 1 - 12:11 PM

Adam Larsson (lower body) resumed skating last week.
Coach Pete DeBoer said Larsson suffered "a fairly significant injury" when he crashed into the boards on Nov. 23 in San Jose. DeBoer described the lower-body injury as "a pretty standard kind of four-to-six week type thing." He has been skating on his own lately.
Source: The Bergen Record Thu, Dec 19, 2013 04:40:00 PM

Adam Larsson - D - Devils
The New Jersey Devils placed Adam Larsson on the injured reserve retroactive to Nov. 23 on Sunday.
Sun, Dec 1, 2013 01:51:00 PM

Adam Larsson - D - Devils
Adam Larsson won't play Monday because of a lower-body injury.
He was hurt when he lost an edge and crashed into the boards during the third period of Saturday's loss to San Jose. Larsson has one goal and two assists in 20 games this season.
Source: The Bergen Record Mon, Nov 25, 2013 02:48:00 PM

Rich Chere ‏@Ledger_NJDevils Dec 19
DeBoer said Adam Larsson injury is a standard 4-6 week situation. Salvador is taking a bit longer than coach expected

4-6 weeks, but didn't play an NHL game from November 23 to March 31. He sat out far too long and if you genuinely think he isn't at least the 6th best defenseman on this team then you're either trolling or have an agenda.

 

[devilsblood]

Larsson said he was fine a few weeks before getting sent down.

 

[Uli Hiemer]

How can Pete help with things like footspeed? Larsson needs to seek out people who are trained in that area to work on during the offseason. I think John Tavares did this, many players do it actually.

 

[JimEIV]

Larsson said he was fine a few weeks before getting sent down.

No he didn't.... January 1st he said about another week. He was sent down on January 9th. Stop with these false narratives.


http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...turn_next_week_then_fulfilling_potential.html


"Five weeks after injuring a knee. crashing into the boards during a Nov. 23 game in San Jose, Larsson finally is about ready to resume his quest to become the player the Devils thought they were getting when drafting the Swede fourth overall in 2011.

Devils coach Pete DeBoer is ruling out Larsson for this Friday's home game against Chicago or Saturday’s game in Buffalo, but next week seems to be a possibility.

Larsson is shooting for next week, perhaps Tuesday's home game against Philly or Thursday’s game at Prudential Center vs. Dallas.

“After getting in a couple more (practices), I think I’ll be ready,” Larsson said."

 

[devilsblood]

No he didn't.... January 1st he said about another week. He was sent down on January 9th. Stop with these false narratives.


http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/...turn_next_week_then_fulfilling_potential.html


"Five weeks after injuring a knee. crashing into the boards during a Nov. 23 game in San Jose, Larsson finally is about ready to resume his quest to become the player the Devils thought they were getting when drafting the Swede fourth overall in 2011.

Devils coach Pete DeBoer is ruling out Larsson for this Friday's home game against Chicago or Saturday’s game in Buffalo, but next week seems to be a possibility.

Larsson is shooting for next week, perhaps Tuesday's home game against Philly or Thursday’s game at Prudential Center vs. Dallas.

“After getting in a couple more (practices), I think I’ll be ready,†Larsson said."

So January 1st he said a couple more practices. 8 days later he was sent down.

 

[DevilsMadeMeDoIt]

very glad this thread is about Reid lmao.... Regardless, for a young player with offensive talent he seemed to play with his nose down and was hungry for the puck. I'm excited with him and hopefully gets a late season call up and helps us make a run

 

[devilsblood]

And early in the year Larsson was questioning why he wasn't playing as well.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

What if Larsson isn't capable of doing it?

then why was he taken #4 overall? either way, its the team's fault.