Salary Cap: Red Wings roster with 69.0M Final estimation

Frk It · Jun 30, 2014

SoupNazi said:
What have Callahan, Ferraro or Glendening proven they're better at than Miller, except being younger?

He's grittier, a little better of a skater IMO, and has a pest quality.

Glendening has more qualities that I favor in a 4th liner than Miller. Miller is a useful player, but not what I like on my 4th line. Kings, Bruins, contending teams have no one like Miller on their 4th line. And that's not a coincidence.

Vladdy84 · Jun 30, 2014

FlashyG said:
I think Glendening has proven he can frustrate opponents into punching his face more than Miller can, but that isn't exactly something to get rid of Miller over.

If anything its just a good reason to have both on the 4th line.

Preferably the 13th and 14th forwards.

Run the Jewels · Jun 30, 2014

Flowah said:
Because that's what happened last year. We haven't really addressed our defense at all. In fact, for the past few years it's been guys like Colaiacavo, Commodore, Huskins, Quincey, Salei. Serviceable stop-gap measures at best for the most part. Other than DD, no real decent moves on the back end.

I don't know if that'll change this year, I hope it does. But we've been saying it has to be "this year" for 2-3 years now, when Rafalski and Stuart were leaving and Lidstrom was about to leave.

Yep, rather than go cheap and try to add on a washed up 40 year old, let's go all in to sign Ehrhoff. An offensive, puck-moving defensemen has been our biggest need since Rafalski and Lidstrtom retired.

Give Ehrhoff a short term at a high dollar amount and that helps bridge the gap until our defensive prospects are ready to take over.

GoAwayDanCleary · Jun 30, 2014

I'd take Glendening over Miller.

I wasn't a fan at first but by the end of the year Glendening was fantastic for his role. J

Henkka · Jul 1, 2014

So far we are entering with this team for next season:

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Tomas Tatar (~$2.500m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Mitchell Callahan (~$0.605m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m)
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Landon Ferraro (~$0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser (~$3.000m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Brendan Smith ($1.263m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)

BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,892,045; BONUSES: $125,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,107,955

Number1RedWingsFan52 · Jul 1, 2014

Henkka said:
So far we are entering with this team for next season:

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Tomas Tatar (~$2.500m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Mitchell Callahan (~$0.605m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m)
Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Landon Ferraro (~$0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser (~$3.000m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Brendan Smith ($1.263m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)

BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,892,045; BONUSES: $125,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,107,955

Man that defense is scary bad.

Crymson · Jul 1, 2014

P U L L H A R D said:
That was easily avoidable, though. Any of us could have avoided it. Just don't sign Cleary and last season is just another close-to-the-cap-but-still-have-wiggle-room kinda year. I meant more like having use the CBOs on guys on year 2 or 3 of 7 or 8 year deals worth ~$50M, or trading away guys for less than market value because they have albatross contracts. The Cleary thing last year sucked, but it was only for like 2 months, and we still made the playoffs. We aren't hurting for years to come because of it.

Or waive Samuelsson earlier... or Tootoo... or Emmerton.

... or leave a vastly superior player in the AHL simply because he can pass through waivers and they cannot.

Hendricks433 · Jul 1, 2014

Number1RedWingsFan52 said:
Man that defense is scary bad.

If we can move Kindl and fill that spot somehow we can go

Kronner Smith
DD, Big E
Ouellet, Marchenko

That's way better than what we were icing in the playoffs.

Kronner, Smith
DD, Quincey
Kindl, Lashoff

Also that's not the roster were icing. No way Callahan is up with Jurco still in GR.

Henkka · Jul 1, 2014

Hendricks433 said:
No way Callahan is up with Jurco still in GR.

Wanna bet?

Number1RedWingsFan52 · Jul 1, 2014

Hendricks433 said:
If we can move Kindl and fill that spot somehow we can go

Kronner Smith
DD, Big E
Ouellet, Marchenko

That's way better than what we were icing in the playoffs.

Kronner, Smith
DD, Quincey
Kindl, Lashoff

Also that's not the roster were icing. No way Callahan is up with Jurco still in GR.

We very well could be looking at that, Unless Holland makes a splash with a trade.

Frk It · Jul 1, 2014

Henkka said:
Wanna bet?

Yes. I do. Callahan himself said he's a huge long shot to make the team.

Bench · Jul 1, 2014

Frk It said:
Yes. I do. Callahan himself said he's a huge long shot to make the team.

Avatar bet time!

Hendricks433 · Jul 1, 2014

Henkka said:
Wanna bet?

I would bet my life on that. There is 0% chance if thats the roster Jurco is down in GR while Callahan is up on the 3rd line.

19Yzerman19 · Jul 1, 2014

what no Legwand??

I thought it was lock he was going to be re-signed

Number1RedWingsFan52 · Jul 1, 2014

19Yzerman19 said:
what no Legwand??

I thought it was lock he was going to be re-signed

I know right? It seemed like it was at least a 75% possibility that Legwand would be back.

Henkka · Jul 1, 2014

Updated figures after KMFQ -signing.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Tomas Tatar (~$2.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m)
Landon Ferraro (~$0.600m) / Mitchell Callahan (~$0.605m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser (~$3.000m) / Kyle Quincey ($4.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)

BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,475,379; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,524,621

If we waive Ferraro, there's ~4 million capspace for UFA forward (Alfredsson).

Vladdy84 · Jul 1, 2014

Henkka said:
Updated figures after KMFQ -signing.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Tomas Tatar (~$2.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m)
Landon Ferraro (~$0.600m) / Mitchell Callahan (~$0.605m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)
Danny DeKeyser (~$3.000m) / Kyle Quincey ($4.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)

BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,475,379; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,524,621

If we waive Ferraro, there's ~4 million capspace for UFA forward (Alfredsson).

I feel sick after looking at that. Man. Come on. :shakehead

Outl4w · Jul 1, 2014

Well we know the kids need to be called up on D sooner or later.

Outl4w · Jul 1, 2014

Would anyone be interested in taking on Versteeg for 2.2million ? Chitown fans want him gone asap.

Vladdy84 · Jul 1, 2014

TheGreatOutlaw said:
Would anyone be interested in taking on Versteeg for 2.2million ? Chitown fans want him gone asap.

No. And I'm sure some other team will give the Hawks a 2nd and a 4th for him. Probably Dale Tallon..

Henkka · Jul 1, 2014

TheGreatOutlaw said:
Would anyone be interested in taking on Versteeg for 2.2million ? Chitown fans want him gone asap.

No. Gimme Patrick Sharp.

Vladdy84 · Jul 1, 2014

Henkka said:
No. Gimme Patrick Sharp.

Or Hossa. But yeah, Sharpie would be sweet. They can have Stone Hands Luke and Joker!

Henkka · Jul 1, 2014

Vladdy84 said:
Or Hossa. But yeah, Sharpie would be sweet. They can have Stone Hands Luke and Joker!

Hossa won't ever be traded because of the recapture risk. Same thing made Ehrhoff's trade value to zero. You have to keep that guy you signed with a tail-end contract or buy him out.

InjuredChoker · Jul 2, 2014

Henkka said:
Hossa won't ever be traded because of the recapture risk. Same thing made Ehrhoff's trade value to zero. You have to keep that guy you signed with a tail-end contract or buy him out.

yup. that was guaranteed when they didn't buy him out... which was obvious too.

i'm only interested in sharp, don't care about wanna-be-patty-kane. but sharp is getting up there in age too and they can shed salary other ways. BR has declined so they need good wingers to support him. but sharpie is getting up there in age.

Detwa · Jul 2, 2014

There is a high probability that this is a lineup we will see at some point in the season.

FORWARDS
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m)
Danny Cleary ($1.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Tomas Tatar ($2.000m) / Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.000m)
Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Drew Miller ($1.350m)
Mitchell Callahan ($0.900m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)
Danny DeKeyser ($3.000m) / Kyle Quincey ($4.250m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)

BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,937,879; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $62,121

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