I think we desperately need to find an elite 1C. Unfortunately next year doesn't look to be a particularly deep draft for centers near the top, and I'm afraid we won't be a lottery team for the Wright/Savoie draft in 2022 or Bedard draft in 2023. I love Raymond but man we really got screwed by the lottery, Byfield or Stuzle would have fit the rebuild perfectly. I guess we pray for Barkov, or do something wild like trade our 2021 1st round for a 2022 1st with a team like Chicago, Montreal, Florida that will likely be worse in 2022 than 2021. Maximize odds at Wright/Savoie.
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Yeah true, but if we look at recent draft lotteries, we are all very aware that the worst teams don't always win the lottery picks. So maybe, just maybe, we get rewarded in a draft lottery one of these years...(I know, the Wings winning a lottery is crazy!), but maybe we find a way to get that first pick in 2022 and get Wright without being the worst team in the NHL.
Knowing our lottery luck, the league will probably change the odds drastically as soon as we are out of the basement, and will start to reward the junk teams with better odds. It only makes sense for the odds to change as soon as Pittsburgh reaches rock bottom in a few years
Getting Wright at the end of this long period of awful lottery luck would make up for it in a huge way. I could also settle for a Lambert or Savoie tooYeah true, but if we look at recent draft lotteries, we are all very aware that the worst teams don't always win the lottery picks. So maybe, just maybe, we get rewarded in a draft lottery one of these years...(I know, the Wings winning a lottery is crazy!), but maybe we find a way to get that first pick in 2022 and get Wright without being the worst team in the NHL.
Knowing our lottery luck, the league will probably change the odds drastically as soon as we are out of the basement, and will start to reward the junk teams with better odds. It only makes sense for the odds to change as soon as Pittsburgh reaches rock bottom in a few years
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Henkka
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Getting Wright at the end of this long period of awful lottery luck would make up for it in a huge way. I could also settle for a Lambert or Savoie too
What is reliefing, all those 2022 top forwards are righties. So we would get Rh center with Ramond and Niederbach on the mix. Finally some skill righties on the offense.
RedHawkDown
still trying to trust the yzerplan
Agreed that we really need a top C. Luckily I don’t see this team exiting the basement for a few more years at least. Next year isn’t going to be drastically different when all the new kids will be rookies. I think we’ll be squarely in the bottom 5 in 2022 as well.
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Henkka
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I like mo but can’t vote for him as he won’t be a #1 on this team due to the drafting of Owen power next year
Seider will knock him out at practise.
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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The timeline is reasonable, however with gobs of capspace getting bigger each year, factor in UFA's & it could be that we're contenders in yrs 3&4 even.
Holden Caufield
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I guess it depends on each person's views on what makes a contender. If by contender we mean "true contender" as in a top 5 or 6 team in the league, then in my mind 3 years is not realistic. I hope I'm wrong!
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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Thus the "could be". I also wouldn't be too surprised if Yzerman could pull it off that quickly.
KJoe88
Forever Lost.
KJoe88
Forever Lost.
In all seriousness I chose Seider.
Raymond is clearly number two, though. I feel like there’s a gap afterwards, though despite tons of others having potential. Just gotta keep drafting.
I also don’t consider Z a prospect anymore.
Raymond is clearly number two, though. I feel like there’s a gap afterwards, though despite tons of others having potential. Just gotta keep drafting.
I also don’t consider Z a prospect anymore.
I guess no one has discussed it, but I actually see Raymond more of a C type than a winger. I don't know why he isn't tested in that position but I bet he will. He's got all the tools necessary to thrive in that position.
Edit: "Mr. Montén also said that he wouldn’t be surprised if the NHL team that drafts Raymond will look to play him down the middle too, much in the same way as Vancouver has succeeded with Elias Pettersson."
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If the Wings were willing to spend I don't think 2-3 years would have been crazy.
It’s Seider for me and it’s not even close. Seider to me has that #1 dman potential even without the 50+ points. I think defensively he will be the best in the league while putting up 35-45 points regularly. Between his physical dominance, stick work, gap control, etc he is a stud. My only knock may be his net front play as he relies on his stick too much rather than body positioning and taking away the man in front of the net.
Raymond will be a guy we run our PP through, but is he a guy who can dominate a shift like Seider can? Raymond is very skilled and shifty, but he excels more when he has time and space which won’t happen much 5 on 5.
Raymond will be a guy we run our PP through, but is he a guy who can dominate a shift like Seider can? Raymond is very skilled and shifty, but he excels more when he has time and space which won’t happen much 5 on 5.
Shaman464
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The recency bias on this thread is amazing. Raymond, if you even include Zadina as a prospect, would be behind Zadina. Raymond has a great skill set, but is still a question mark until he plays on NA ice. Zadina has already shown he can effectively score at the NHL level.
