OT: Red Sox/MLB 2015!

[JRull86]

I think he's either a free agent after this season or the Red Sox have a team option. It's not looking so good for him.

It's almost like he waits for the sox to score five so he can come out the next half inning and give up six.

They have a team option after the season.

 

[N o o d l e s]

They have a team option after the season.

I think the two most likely are going to go hand in hand lol

 

[robert terwilliger]

i think there's going to be a blowout at some point with the coaching staff and the pitchers.

this is an all staff thing at this point. i'm not excusing buchholz but all of these guys are pulling the same ****. a majority of the staff is strike throwing pitchers. they allow runners and then stop throwing strikes.

 

[JRull86]

Had a red Sox starter had a quality start in the passed two weeks? I legitimately can't think of one.

It's pretty horrendous.

 

[robert terwilliger]

i mean i know the joke is that they're not #1's or whatever. they're all good pitchers capable of throwing a lot of innings and getting outs.

somehow they've collectively turned into felix doubront.

 

[BigBadBruin8]

Why Hanley? Why?

 

[BigBadBruin8]

I know we don't want to panic into trading for Hamels, but the staff isn't do anything to bring down the anxiety level...I mean we can't even get one day off from it

 

[robert terwilliger]

50 decades indeed, you ****ing *******.

 

[BigBadBruin8]

That's a lot of decades.....

 

[robert terwilliger]

olney and stark discussed hamels on the podcast today.

the phillies still haven't lowered their price. take the entire contract, give the best pieces from your farm system.

olney brought up that most teams you'd expect to be panicking about their pitching depth are calling amaro jnr.'s bluff. the dodgers could use hamels but they're not parting with pederson, seager or urias. the red sox aren't giving up swihart or betts. the cardinals aren't giving up martinez and so on. he brought up that the cardinals have a need now that wainwright has gone down but they're not really under pressure.

i think the red sox are in the same position. keep building. hamels doesn't make them any better, he only makes them worse in the long term.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Forget hamels at this point. that was the thought when they needed an ace. They need a hell of a lot more than one guy right now. I don't know what you can do right now. My first thought would be to see if johnson/Rodriguez can give you anything. I know some believed in this staff heading into season but i was never in that camp. While nobody saw them being this bad, the rotation was filled with question marks. Just a bad job by cherington in my opinion.

 

[robert terwilliger]

i think cherington did what needed to be done.

didn't commit long term to anyone (except porcello and time will tell on that) he just got the type of arms that the team needed.

how much blame is leveled at him for putting responsibility on the player's shoulders?

 

[Johnnyduke]

Guess the difference is i never believed in the staff he put together to begin with

 

[robert terwilliger]

good for you.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Shields and Scherzer were there for the taking. They could have went that route.

 

[robert terwilliger]

don't think shields was/is worth the money in a park like fenway.

scherzer wasn't signing for less than seven years and i doubt they'd have given him what he got from washington.

 

[N o o d l e s]

Guess the difference is i never believed in the staff he put together to begin with

It's been 20 games. Talk to me in June.

 

[DKH]

Johnson and Rodriguez especially are throwing well in AAA. Johnson was pitcher of week and Rodriguez looks like he is a potential 1 or 2.

Very frustrating watching these guys get pounded

 

[Johnnyduke]

Just sayin'. I don't root for these guys to suck. I might be in the minority but i prefer watching good pitching over a 10-9 softball game.

 

[robert terwilliger]

i don't either but i can also see the forest for the trees.

the market was either "sink 7+ years into pitchers in their early 30's" or "get good pitchers who throw strikes and eat innings for cheaper"

hindsight is great though.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I do like watching Kelly pitch. Throwing 99 to 100 mph is always cool to see.

 

[dabid]

brock should pitch every night

 

[Johnnyduke]

Robert that's your excuse for everything...that it's hindsight. I've felt this way about the staff prior to this debacle of a season so far.

As for the guy who said talk to me in june...bullpen will be dead by then.

 

[robert terwilliger]

is it an excuse or is it a pretty popular thing on this board.

 

[robert terwilliger]

that's the thing.

going into this season it was "we need an ace! i don't like players i don't know! etc!"

20 games into the season it's "see?! told you so!"