Realistically, would a player like Brad Marchand get in the HHOF?

[MXD]

Tougher era? I mean, possibly, but neither Marchand or Tocchet were beating Brett Hull, and Tocchet's best placement happened during a season where he was clearly the 3rd best player on his line. Also RW didn't became really stacked until 90-91, and Tocchet was beaten by some guys who clearly don't quite stand out as all-time talents, like Kevin Dineen and Gary Leeman.

I totally understand the comparison for their first five years, however.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Tougher era? I mean, possibly, but neither Marchand or Tocchet were beating Brett Hull, and Tocchet's best placement happened during a season where he was clearly the 3rd best player on his line. Also RW didn't became really stacked until 90-91, and Tocchet was beaten by some guys who clearly don't quite stand out as all-time talents, like Kevin Dineen and Gary Leeman.

I totally understand the comparison for their first five years, however.

i meant scoring, not all-stars.

if you look at tocchet's three best offensive years, 1989, 1990, and 1993, the top tens were all murderer's rows of guys at their peaks. you can't really blame him for not being in the top ten in any of those years.

Rk	Player	PTS	Season	Age	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-
1	Mario Lemieux*	2.62	1988-89	23	76	85	114	199	41
2	Wayne Gretzky*	2.15	1988-89	28	78	54	114	168	15
3	Steve Yzerman*	1.94	1988-89	23	80	65	90	155	17
4	Bernie Nicholls	1.90	1988-89	27	79	70	80	150	30
5	Rob Brown	1.69	1988-89	20	68	49	66	115	27
6	Paul Coffey*	1.51	1988-89	27	75	30	83	113	-10
7	Denis Savard*	1.41	1988-89	27	58	23	59	82	-5
8	Joe Mullen*	1.39	1988-89	31	79	51	59	110	51
9	Jari Kurri*	1.34	1988-89	28	76	44	58	102	19
10	Mark Messier*	1.31	1988-89	28	72	33	61	94	-5
11	Dale Hawerchuk*	1.28	1988-89	25	75	41	55	96	-30
12	Tim Kerr	1.28	1988-89	29	69	48	40	88	-4
13	Luc Robitaille*	1.26	1988-89	22	78	46	52	98	5
14	Jimmy Carson	1.25	1988-89	20	80	49	51	100	3
15	Rick Tocchet	1.23	1988-89	24	66	45	36	81	-1
16	Gary Leeman	1.23	1988-89	24	61	32	43	75	5

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1.	Wayne Gretzky* • LAK	142
2.	Mark Messier* • EDM	129
3.	Steve Yzerman* • DET	127
4.	Mario Lemieux* • PIT	123
5.	Brett Hull* • STL	113
6.	Bernie Nicholls • 2TM	112
7.	Pierre Turgeon • BUF	106
8.	Pat LaFontaine* • NYI	105
9.	Paul Coffey* • PIT	103
10.	Joe Sakic* • QUE	102
	Adam Oates* • STL	102
12.	Ron Francis* • HAR	101
	Luc Robitaille* • LAK	101
14.	Brian Bellows • MNS	99
15.	Rick Tocchet • PHI	96

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1.	Mario Lemieux* • PIT	160
2.	Pat LaFontaine* • BUF	148
3.	Adam Oates* • BOS	142
4.	Steve Yzerman* • DET	137
5.	Teemu Selanne* • WIN	132
	Pierre Turgeon • NYI	132
7.	Doug Gilmour* • TOR	127
	Alexander Mogilny • BUF	127
9.	Luc Robitaille* • LAK	125
10.	Mark Recchi* • PHI	123
11.	Mats Sundin* • QUE	114
12.	Kevin Stevens • PIT	111
13.	Pavel Bure* • VAN	110
14.	Rick Tocchet • PIT	109

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EDIT: as for marchand's HHOF chances, though, i think it depends on how long he can keep up this surprising offensive peak. and it looks like if things continue the way they are this season, his year ten will really help him in an all-time sense.

like imagine if instead of falling off after '93, tocchet held on to that '89 to '93 level for another four years. sprinkle in 60 goals over his '94, '96, and '97 seasons, where he respectively scored 14, 29, and 21 goals, and he hits the 500 mark. instead of scoring 40, 60, and 40 points, give him good health and 85, 90, and 75 and that gets him just over 1,050 points. i think i'd put one cup, two finals, 100 playoff points, two canada cups, 500 goal, 1,050 assist tocchet in the hall of fame (and with good health he easily gets the extra 30 PIMs to make him the only member of the 500/1,000/3,000 club).

and inflated '80s/early '90s points totals and international accomplishments aside, i don't think it's too farfetched to expect marchand to equal that resume.