RD Timothy Liljegren (2017, 17th, TOR) IV

[Captain Clutch]

Durzi was cut from the Marlies this season.

Liljegren plays on the Marlies top pairing, and is a year younger. There is a pretty big gap here.

Agreed, Liljegren is the far superior prospect to Durzi and I highly doubt he was ever put on the table by Dubas for the simple reason that the Leafs are going to be so forward heavy in terms of the cap that even after they let Gardiner go next year, its not like they can go out and sign another UFA defenseman of any caliber so they will need cheap, young (and talented) young defenders like Liljegren to fill the gap. I expect Liljegren to be on the Leafs roster next year in the 3rd pair and to be there for at least the three years of his ELC. After that who knows, it depends on how he does in the NHL but he sure looks like a promising prospect if he's strong enough to survive the rigors of the league.

 

[GTA]

Where is this guy right now? Don't see him in the AHL lineup and he's not in the ECHL anymore - injured again?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Where is this guy right now? Don't see him in the AHL lineup and he's not in the ECHL anymore - injured again?

Re-injured the ankle in his first rehab game back in the ECHL I believe.

 

[member 290103]

Everyone starting to see why the majority of NHL teams passed on him in the 2017 draft. This player has rocks in his head.

 

[biotk]

Where is this guy right now? Don't see him in the AHL lineup and he's not in the ECHL anymore - injured again?

Dubas said in an interview a day or two ago that Liljegren is close to returning.

 

[93LEAFS]

LOL. Sorry, "nearly" the majority of teams passed on him. Thanks for making this very important correction LOLOLOL.

So the minority of NHL teams passed on him?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Everyone starting to see why the majority of NHL teams passed on him in the 2017 draft. This player has rocks in his head.

An ankle injury=rocks in his head. Gotta love how some people somehow find a way to shit on a 19 year old who has missed 6 weeks for an injury....Like he literally hasn't played. Don't you have better things to do? It is kind of sad.

 

[GTA]

Dubas said in an interview a day or two ago that Liljegren is close to returning.

Close to returning to where? He played in an ECHL game from what I see.

 

[biotk]

Close to returning to where? He played in an ECHL game from what I see.

The one game in the ECHL was to see if his ankle was good enough to play on. The Marlies were off for 6 or 7 days at the time with their next two games were against the team that was/is destroying the AHL. So they wanted to be sure he was good to go before risking putting him in the Marlies lineup against a team that strong and risking being down a down a D early in the game if he was not.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Really? They do that?

 

[Pyromaniac]

Liljegren ECHLer confirmed. Could he be the Sam Gagner of defenseman?

 

[RoadWarrior]

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Liljegren ECHLer confirmed. Could he be the Sam Gagner of defenseman?

It's part of his injury rehab. He's played well on the top pairing in the AHL this season when healthy.

That's why it was Durzi shipped to LA instead of Liljegren.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Had the highest PPG ever as an 18 year old D-man in the AHL in a sheltered role, was playing top pair minutes in all situations at 19 years old before he got hurt.

He just needs to get healthy and hopefully can stay that way for the rest of the year. Maybe push for a job by next training camp.

 

[Cupless44]

Liljegren is still only 19 and may well turn out to be a good defenceman but there isnt much question, if Leaf fans can be honest, his stock has dropped a bit this season. It happens. Young prospects stock rises and drops and different points in their development. This has not been a great year for him.

 

[4thline]

Liljegren is still only 19 and may well turn out to be a good defenceman but there isnt much question, if Leaf fans can be honest, his stock has dropped a bit this season. It happens. Young prospects stock rises and drops and different points in their development. This has not been a great year for him.

He got hurt. Beyond that your post is nothing other than trite cliches expressing ignorance.



He's played like two games since this statement

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Liljegren is still only 19 and may well turn out to be a good defenceman but there isnt much question, if Leaf fans can be honest, his stock has dropped a bit this season. It happens. Young prospects stock rises and drops and different points in their development. This has not been a great year for him.

I am honestly curious why some people seem to be saying this....Like he was having a great season....got injured....and now his stock is dropping? Am I missing something in the middle?

 

[izlez]

Had the highest PPG ever as an 18 year old D-man in the AHL in a sheltered role

*Sample size of 2 players

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Liljegren is still only 19 and may well turn out to be a good defenceman but there isnt much question, if Leaf fans can be honest, his stock has dropped a bit this season. It happens. Young prospects stock rises and drops and different points in their development. This has not been a great year for him.

......... But why?

 

[araisarena]

Liljegren is still only 19 and may well turn out to be a good defenceman but there isnt much question, if Leaf fans can be honest, his stock has dropped a bit this season. It happens. Young prospects stock rises and drops and different points in their development. This has not been a great year for him.

He's playing well in his first year getting tough minutes, driving possession and xGF. An injury made people forget about him as well as the rise of Sandin. It's typical availability/recency bias. This is nonsense. He's a good AHL defenseman at 19. 2 years younger than Dermott when Dermott was playing same role as him.

 

[araisarena]

Everyone starting to see why the majority of NHL teams passed on him in the 2017 draft. This player has rocks in his head.

You don't even watch hockey.

 

[NiL8r87]

Apparently if you get injured you get worse as a prospect.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Apparently if you get injured you get worse as a prospect.

You do though

 

[NiL8r87]

You do though

Depends on the injury. An ankle sprain is not a chronic injury or a long-term one.

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Kid was playing the toughest match-ups on the top pairing and doing well at it. had 9 points in 18 games as 19 year old. Has really good analytics. the best outlet passer on the team. What's up with this thread?

 

[Nizdizzle]

From the Atheletic, rated as Toronto's #2 prospect at the midseason:

-Impressive season
-Worried that the injuries will hamper progress because 18-21 are critical development years
-A lot to like about his game, best outlet passer on Marlies and smooth puck handler
-Skating remains an issue and gets burned off the rush more than any other Marlies defender
-Thinks Leafs should wait until fall 2020 before getting Lilijegren into the NHL

2. Timothy Liljegren, RHD, 19 (Toronto Marlies)

In his draft year, it was mono. Last season, it was a recurring hip injury and another illness. This year, it’s a high-ankle sprain (which re-aggravated itself in a conditioning stint with the Newfoundland Growlers). Given all of those things, Liljegren’s tenure to date with the Marlies has been impressive. I do believe those things, at that age, have and will have a lasting impact on his development, though. We see the starkest incline in development from 18-to-20, and Liljegren has been robbed of a good chunk of that period. But the 20 games he gained in last year’s Calder Cup run certainly help to mitigate against that. There’s a lot to like about Liljegren’s game. That much is clear in the 29 points he has in 83 all-competition AHL games as a teenager. Liljegren is the best outlet passer on the Marlies and handles the puck smoothly in stride and laterally. Both of those skills translate well in today’s game. There’s some work to be done, though. His skating (forward, backward and rotationally on his pivots) remains an issue and results in him getting burned off the rush more than any other Marlies defenceman does in Nielsen’s absence. In that way, the Muzzin acquisition benefits the Leafs in more ways than one because it helps mitigate against any rush the Leafs might have to push their top right-handed D prospect into the NHL next season. Instead, they can wait until the fall of 2020 if they have to (by which point Liljegren will be 21).