RD Filip Hronek (2016, 53rd, DET)

[DRW204]

floor/ceiling for him? Seems like he can be a pp specialist at the minimum

 

[Killerjas]

floor/ceiling for him? Seems like he can be a pp specialist at the minimum

Top 4 I would say

 

[Pavels Dog]

floor/ceiling for him? Seems like he can be a pp specialist at the minimum

Can’t see him not at least being something close to a Marek Zidlicky type player. 2nd/3rd pair PP specialist. Ceiling? Kris Letang.

 

[Havre]

Boy I hope you are right, but very few are floor 40pts players and ceiling Letang (even if it is more to hockey than just points).

Looking forward to see him in the NHL. Interesting player. I don't think his floor is Zidlicky (I think it is far lower than that), but I also think he could become really good (highly highly unlikely anything like Letang though - in my opinion).

 

[Henkka]

I counted one slap shot from the blueline in there. Thats gotta be rare for a dman to have such a high percentage of their goals come from non-slapshots. 11 goals isnt a tiny number for a dman either, its ok, but if he develops that shot more he could be even better

I'm quite sure had plenty of slapshots, which turned to be assists, because a guy like Tangradi tipped it on, or whacked a rebound in.

Would have been more interested about his assist-highlights.

 

[SoundAndFury]

I counted one slap shot from the blueline in there. Thats gotta be rare for a dman to have such a high percentage of their goals come from non-slapshots.

Actually a very low percentage of goals in the NHL is scored by Dman slapshots anymore, Ds league wide are trying to move away from them to more Karlsson-esque half-slaps. In today's NHL you almost never get a chance to unload a real good slapshot, it's becoming irrelevant skill 5 on 5 and young Ds probably don't even pay much interest in developing it. Friedman wrote a few paragraphs about it this year.

 

[Mrb1p]

Actually a very low percentage of goals in the NHL is scored by Dman slapshots anymore, Ds league wide are trying to move away from them to more Karlsson-esque half-slaps. In today's NHL you almost never get a chance to unload a real good slapshot, it's becoming irrelevant skill 5 on 5 and young Ds probably don't even pay much interest in developing it. Friedman wrote a few paragraphs about it this year.

Seeing guys like Weber, Subban, Petry, Burns, Ovechkin, Laine, etc unload slapshots at an alarming rate, cant help but wonder about this statement. Sure, a wrister or snapshot is more effective in most situations at ES but on the PP you absolutely need an option for the heavy slapper from above the circles or youre going to lose option down low.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Seeing guys like Weber, Subban, Petry, Burns, Ovechkin, Laine, etc unload slapshots at an alarming rate, cant help but wonder about this statement. Sure, a wrister or snapshot is more effective in most situations at ES but on the PP you absolutely need an option for the heavy slapper from above the circles or youre going to lose option down low.

Subban hardly does it 5 on 5 either, Laine and Ovechkin are absolutely different cases with the curves on the blades they are using. On PP you still have to respect the slapper from the point for sure (Hedman is maybe the best example at this point) but at the same time it only really opens up if you have a good shooter on the half wall as well (Ovechkin, Stamkos, etc.). I mean there is no denying the more shooters on PP you have the better but 5 on 5 it just takes too long in ever faster NHL. Those shots are blocked so often they became not worth taking as a blocked shot is potentially a second away from turnover and breakaway.

 

[Mrb1p]

Subban hardly does it 5 on 5 either, Laine and Ovechkin are absolutely different cases with the curves on the blades they are using. On PP you still have to respect the slapper from the point for sure (Hedman is maybe the best example at this point) but at the same time it only really opens up if you have a good shooter on the half wall as well (Ovechkin, Stamkos, etc.). I mean there is no denying the more shooters on PP you have the better but 5 on 5 it just takes too long in ever faster NHL. Those shots are blocked so often they became not worth taking as a blocked shot is potentially a second away from turnover and breakaway.

This is all true but the effectiveness of the slapper isnt "down" either. Its still most likely the best shot to take on a PP or with a clear line to the net, simply because its the best chance at creating a rebound.

 

[lilidk]

Kroner going to play his last season .It will be good for Hronek to be pair with him .

 

[Christien]

So excited to see him play this season. His development has been great

 

[TheMule93]

He scored his first NHL goal against Boston yesterday

 

[BottomDweller1968]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

 

[raymond23]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

Wings have too many awesome defenseman

 

[KasperTheGrittyGhost]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

Would bet he and Zadina are called up after the trade deadline when Nyquist and Jensen (at least) are dealt.

 

[TheMule93]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

Idk man and its pissing me off to no end. I could understand if all our nhl d were studs but it's the opposite. Outside of green and cholowski they're all complete f***ing garbage. It's pathetic that Hronek is stuck in the AHL.

Dear Ken Holland go f*** yourself in the ass with a rusty iron cactus

 

[Claypool]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

He started the year in Detroit and didn't light the world on fire. He'll be back in after the trade deadline.

 

[blindpass]

Idk man and its pissing me off to no end. I could understand if all our nhl d were studs but it's the opposite. Outside of green and cholowski they're all complete ****ing garbage. It's pathetic that Hronek is stuck in the AHL.

Dear Ken Holland go **** yourself in the ass with a rusty iron cactus

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[GrGriffins]

when does he get the call up? He's been producing in the AHL with 11 points in 14 games

Wings want Hronek to be a more complete d-man, instead of just strictly a QB on the top PP unit (Mike Green like player). He is in Grand Rapids to work on being an all around d-man, which means he is going through hard knocks as being a PK d-man (which he never done in the pro level) and learning to actually play defense (which was his biggest liability last season). He is slowly figuring the PK part of the game and his offense struggled when he first came back down from Detroit. Recently, he has regained his confidence and he is starting to produce points on the score sheet once again.

 

[Mister Ed]

13 points in 15 games now, he's getting the hang of things. Looks like a pretty good future #2 or #3 D.

 

[Christien]

14 points in the last 10 games for him

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Funny that Pronman touts Hronek when he still can't bring himself to give Cholowski any credit.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Cholowski is better than Hronek. I don't get why people place so much importance in Pronman's rankings - they're mostly just edgy and it's clear he tries to attract readership by being 'different'.

 

[A Few Good Males]

Cholowski is better than Hronek. I don't get why people place so much importance in Pronman's rankings - they're mostly just edgy and it's clear he tries to attract readership by being 'different'.

I disagree, he values raw skill and ceiling moreso than most and asserts a firm opinion, which puts him in a position susceptible to criticism. I’ve found that he is quite good at scouting forwards, defense is a different story tho.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Cholowski is better than Hronek. I don't get why people place so much importance in Pronman's rankings - they're mostly just edgy and it's clear he tries to attract readership by being 'different'.

Because of the way Cholo has played in the NHL this year I have to agree with you now. But until this season I projected Hronek as being better and it had nothing to do with Pronman. I saw Cholo as a steady second pairing D with a good breakout pass and skating but not the offensive upside. I think Hronek has the potential to be a point producer on the top line. His offensive instincts, playmaking and shot all made me think he'd be better- not to mention he plays with more of an edge and he was playing in the pros before Cholowski.

Cholowski had more minute munching potential because of his skating and his better defensive instincts but that was about it for me. Now Cholo has jumped in and played great so I have to give him credit as a good producer as well. But saying Hronek is better is a really reasonable stance regardless of Pronman and if both were having success in the NHL right now, I'd like Hronek's potential more.