wankstifier
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Rank the Defensemen
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Ghosts Beer
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AdamParrot
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wankstifier
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Did Provy die or something?
He’s been are useful as a bag of potatoes this year, but he should still be there, no?
He’s been are useful as a bag of potatoes this year, but he should still be there, no?
Ruck Over
When the revolution comes, pants will do you no gd
#1 Prorov
#2 Sanheim
#3 Ghost
#4 Myers
This is as of today, with optimistic desire for tomorrow. I'm both a fan of Gudas and Morin, but recognize both of those guys should be defense first, and while not black holes on offense, will be complimentary guys based on the good work of others. Neither MOrin or Gudas are expected to create, nor drive, offense.
Provorov looks like the most complete defenseman right now. He does everything except QB a PP. Really enjoying his rushes up ice lately. A few too many die in the corner or in a turn over behind the net. Part on him, part on forwards not getting available.
Sanheim looks every bit as good as anyone else, yet doesn't make it look as effortless on the defensive end, he's the 2nd best QB on the PP. Really enjoying how he's being used on the PK, and to finish games. Haven't noticed any starfish, or other bonehead plays. An invisible defenseman in the d-zone is a good defenseman in the d-zone.
Ghost is too talented not to be a top four guy. His rookie year and last year are just too damn good to not recognize this guy works on a
different level when allowed to operate freely. Unlike so many, I appreciate his defensive prowess in not allowing opposing teams to exit their zone cleanly, guy is a terror for unsuspecting forwards getting checked so far up ice. But yes, he can be a potential liability when hemmed in his own zone.
Myers, wing and a prayer. The around the world highlight from the Phantoms the other day does have a part in this. but he's too good for the AHL, especially when the Flyers still have AMac (who's been better as of late, but is still primarily, booty) on the active roster.Unfair advantage, he's a righty. Double secret unfair advantage, he's a francophile.
#2 Sanheim
#3 Ghost
#4 Myers
This is as of today, with optimistic desire for tomorrow. I'm both a fan of Gudas and Morin, but recognize both of those guys should be defense first, and while not black holes on offense, will be complimentary guys based on the good work of others. Neither MOrin or Gudas are expected to create, nor drive, offense.
Provorov looks like the most complete defenseman right now. He does everything except QB a PP. Really enjoying his rushes up ice lately. A few too many die in the corner or in a turn over behind the net. Part on him, part on forwards not getting available.
Sanheim looks every bit as good as anyone else, yet doesn't make it look as effortless on the defensive end, he's the 2nd best QB on the PP. Really enjoying how he's being used on the PK, and to finish games. Haven't noticed any starfish, or other bonehead plays. An invisible defenseman in the d-zone is a good defenseman in the d-zone.
Ghost is too talented not to be a top four guy. His rookie year and last year are just too damn good to not recognize this guy works on a
different level when allowed to operate freely. Unlike so many, I appreciate his defensive prowess in not allowing opposing teams to exit their zone cleanly, guy is a terror for unsuspecting forwards getting checked so far up ice. But yes, he can be a potential liability when hemmed in his own zone.
Myers, wing and a prayer. The around the world highlight from the Phantoms the other day does have a part in this. but he's too good for the AHL, especially when the Flyers still have AMac (who's been better as of late, but is still primarily, booty) on the active roster.Unfair advantage, he's a righty. Double secret unfair advantage, he's a francophile.
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Ghosts Beer
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I really don’t know. None have been particularly good this season. Well, Gudas has been good for his role, but it’s tough to rank him ahead of players with more minutes.
wankstifier
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There have been 5 unique voters so far.
I'd only count @Ruck Over 's ranking since they've explained their votes in a post. @AdamParrot is halfway there.
I'd only count @Ruck Over 's ranking since they've explained their votes in a post. @AdamParrot is halfway there.
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
How are we ranking them?
Up to this point?
This year?
In the future?
I also don't get the point system.
Up to this point?
This year?
In the future?
I also don't get the point system.
wankstifier
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Rich Nixon
No Prior Knowledge of "Flyers"
I found this points system extremely confusing so I voted Schlemko.
Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
If I had to rank based on how much I value them, now and going forward:
Ghost
Sanheim
Provorov
Myers
Ghost has hit a peak none of the rest have matched or will likely be able to match. He's capable of scoring like an elite offensive defensemen, other than a year when he was injured and this current fluke year. Outside of his offensive ability, he's also proven he can play solid defense against opponents top players because he's smart, quick, and good with his stick. Similar to how Giroux works on the boards.
Sanheim has awesome offensive potential that we've seen flashes of and he's also shown incredible defensive ability too. In the game against Edmonton he had multiple fantastic shifts where he completely neutralized McDavid on the rush and with time I'm sure he'll show this kind of play more consistently. Getting him back to the left side will help him produce more offensively too. And obviously he needs to be properly used on the PP. I think he has the potential to pass Ghost in the next few years as our best defensemen, but it's too early for me to rank him above Ghost just yet.
Provorov has also proven a lot by showing he can play a lot of minutes and be a great defensemen, but I don't see the same offensive potential the top 2 guys have and I don't think his defense is enough to make up for that gap. He's had ups and downs and needs to be used better too. He's playing too many minutes and needs to be off of the powerplay completely. It's been tried, it failed, move on.
Myers is obviously last here, at this point, because he's too much of an unknown. I think he can also turn into a very good top 4, if not top pair, defensemen. I'm curious to see how much scoring he'll be capable of at this level, especially since it's unlikely he'll get PP time.
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For the rest of them, my rankings would be:
Gudas
Morin
Schlemko
Hagg
Ghost
Sanheim
Provorov
Myers
Ghost has hit a peak none of the rest have matched or will likely be able to match. He's capable of scoring like an elite offensive defensemen, other than a year when he was injured and this current fluke year. Outside of his offensive ability, he's also proven he can play solid defense against opponents top players because he's smart, quick, and good with his stick. Similar to how Giroux works on the boards.
Sanheim has awesome offensive potential that we've seen flashes of and he's also shown incredible defensive ability too. In the game against Edmonton he had multiple fantastic shifts where he completely neutralized McDavid on the rush and with time I'm sure he'll show this kind of play more consistently. Getting him back to the left side will help him produce more offensively too. And obviously he needs to be properly used on the PP. I think he has the potential to pass Ghost in the next few years as our best defensemen, but it's too early for me to rank him above Ghost just yet.
Provorov has also proven a lot by showing he can play a lot of minutes and be a great defensemen, but I don't see the same offensive potential the top 2 guys have and I don't think his defense is enough to make up for that gap. He's had ups and downs and needs to be used better too. He's playing too many minutes and needs to be off of the powerplay completely. It's been tried, it failed, move on.
Myers is obviously last here, at this point, because he's too much of an unknown. I think he can also turn into a very good top 4, if not top pair, defensemen. I'm curious to see how much scoring he'll be capable of at this level, especially since it's unlikely he'll get PP time.
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For the rest of them, my rankings would be:
Gudas
Morin
Schlemko
Hagg
wankstifier
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This year and in the future seem most appropriate.
The points system doesn't make sense. I need to fix that.
Magua
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flyersjim73
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1) Sanheim
2) Ghost
3) Provorov
4) Myers
5) Morin
6) Gudas
7) Hagg
Those first three are close and certainly could change but that’s where I have them all things considered right now.
Myers is a wild card - he could really end up absolutely anywhere on this list.
Gudas is probably more important than Morin for the next 1.5 seasons, but Morin is more important after that.
I don’t hate Hagg like others on here, but he stands little chance of improving much from where he is right now because his physically skills won’t permit him. I actually don’t mind him as a sixth or seventh defenseman, but when this team is at their peak we don’t want him playing more than 15 minutes a night - preferably less.
2) Ghost
3) Provorov
4) Myers
5) Morin
6) Gudas
7) Hagg
Those first three are close and certainly could change but that’s where I have them all things considered right now.
Myers is a wild card - he could really end up absolutely anywhere on this list.
Gudas is probably more important than Morin for the next 1.5 seasons, but Morin is more important after that.
I don’t hate Hagg like others on here, but he stands little chance of improving much from where he is right now because his physically skills won’t permit him. I actually don’t mind him as a sixth or seventh defenseman, but when this team is at their peak we don’t want him playing more than 15 minutes a night - preferably less.
Tripod
I hate this team
lol....the only vote for Hagg....was fat's only vote.
Guess he is our #1 according to fat.
fitting.
TheKingPin
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I’m a big fan of Provy but still don’t think it’s crazy to think sanhiem could become a better player. I don’t think it will happen but it speaks to how great sanhiem has looked.
Outlaw Samurai
FROST WARNING in effect
Wow, tough.
Sanheim 1.a
Ghost 1.b
Provy 1.c
All three of Sanheim/Provy/Ghost are really freaking close for me.
Myers 2
The difference b/w Sanheim, Ghost and Provy is offence favours Sandy and Ghost. I LOVE Provy too, don't get me wrong. All three are capable of defending and playing big minutes with great vision, and IQ.
I do think Sanheim has the highest ceiling, Ghost the best offence and Provy probably the highest floor.
I wouldn't trade TRADE ANY OF THESE 3
Myers 4th for obvious reason of he hasn't proven anything yet.
Sanheim 1.a
Ghost 1.b
Provy 1.c
All three of Sanheim/Provy/Ghost are really freaking close for me.
Myers 2
The difference b/w Sanheim, Ghost and Provy is offence favours Sandy and Ghost. I LOVE Provy too, don't get me wrong. All three are capable of defending and playing big minutes with great vision, and IQ.
I do think Sanheim has the highest ceiling, Ghost the best offence and Provy probably the highest floor.
I wouldn't trade TRADE ANY OF THESE 3
Myers 4th for obvious reason of he hasn't proven anything yet.
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Gostisbehere
4. Myers
Future Myers > Present Gudas
5. Gudas
6. Morin
7. Hagg
8. Hart's water bottle
156. Schlemko
2. Sanheim
3. Gostisbehere
4. Myers
Future Myers > Present Gudas
5. Gudas
6. Morin
7. Hagg
8. Hart's water bottle
156. Schlemko
FLYguy3911
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1. Provorov
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2. Gostisbehere
miles
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2. Gostisbehere
flyersfromquebec
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1.Provorov (will become our most reliable and complete Dmen)
2.Sanheim
3.Myers (future expectation)
4.Gudas
5.Morin
6.Hagg
....Did I forget someone?
Oh yeah
7. Ghost
(striiker overreaction upcoming)
2.Sanheim
3.Myers (future expectation)
4.Gudas
5.Morin
6.Hagg
....Did I forget someone?
Oh yeah
7. Ghost
(striiker overreaction upcoming)
flyersfromquebec
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Striiker
Earthquake Survivor
1.Provorov (will become our most reliable and complete Dmen)
2.Sanheim
3.Myers (future expectation)
4.Gudas
5.Morin
6.Hagg
....Did I forget someone?
Oh yeah
7. Ghost
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