Rank the Canadian teams 2021-22

[The90]

It’s not as excuse, the leafs still should have been able to close that series out even without their captain, they are a better team even without him. But they for sure would have won with him.

100% should have won that either way. As it is, they outplayed them 5/7 games. With the other 2 being game 1 and 7.

 

[Byron Bitz]

100% should have won that either way. As it is, they outplayed them 5/7 games. With the other 2 being game 1 and 7.

Habs definitely outplayed them in game one when they didn’t even know if their captain was gonna make it through the night

 

[The90]

Habs definitely outplayed them in game one when they didn’t even know if their captain was gonna make it through the night

Indeed

 

[DJJones]

Totally. You guys get to improve. And that’s a sure thing. Not anyone else though. It’s not possible at all that those players have all hit their ceilings already. And are fringe players. Never seen that happen.

I hope you can see how stupidly biased that is. If not this is a pointless discussion.

We got worse as Gio aged out of his Norris quality of play. You don't replace that. If we lose Gaudreau or Tkachuk due to cap concerns, again, we will get worse.

If you want to hand wave losing good players off as unimportant and that prospects will fill their roles and you will actually improve. Go for it, you can believe it, I just am not going to agree with you.

 

[ottawa]

Winnipeg, Edmonton Toronto- too close to call IMO...Oilers have the benefit of playing in a weaker division
Vancouver- should be a playoff team so long as Demko is legit
Calgary- mediocre as always...playoff bubble but could make it due to division
Montreal- tough tough division... yes they got hot in the playoffs but they weren't very good in the regular season
Ottawa- someone had to be last

Do you know why we were good in the playoffs and bad in the regular season?

I'll give you a hint...our 2 most important players were injured

 

[The90]

We got worse as Gio aged out of his Norris quality of play. You don't replace that. If we lose Gaudreau or Tkachuk due to cap concerns, again, we will get worse.

If you want to hand wave losing good players off as unimportant and that prospects will fill their roles and you will actually improve. Go for it, you can believe it, I just am not going to agree with you.

That’s not at all what I did. You’re claiming the flames will be better for the same reason the leafs won’t lol. You can’t have it both ways. Or maybe you can, but only in your head does that make sense.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Do you know why we were good in the playoffs and bad in the regular season?

I'll give you a hint...our 2 most important players were injured

and now Weber is out for the season, Price is coming off surgery and you lost Perry and Danault and replaced them with Hoffman and Savard? downgrade

 

[The90]

Do you know why we were good in the playoffs and bad in the regular season?

I'll give you a hint...our 2 most important players were injured

Also, because Carey price carried your team to playoff wins in the playoffs, but not the regular season.

 

[DL44]

no way vancouver reaches 97-102 with those rhd

D depth is a weakness overall... but defensive speed and capability upfront appears improved in the bottom 6 and goaltending should help mitigate.

Left side D should stronger than last yr to further mitigate the right side downgrade losing Schmidt.

OUT: Edler, Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle, Schmidt, Virtanen, Vesey, Holtby
IN: OEL, Garland, Dickinson, Podkolzin, Dowling, Schenn, Poolman, Halak

For this coming season... the Canucks made some pretty good moves pushing some people down the roster upfront. Depth there is good.

Team should be closer to 100 points than 90.

 

[sharks9]

100% should have won that either way. As it is, they outplayed them 5/7 games. With the other 2 being game 1 and 7.

Leafs didn't outplay them in game 5 or 6, the Habs just sat back too much after having a lead.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Will Smith have a Vezina worthy season again?

Yeah, thats iffy..even more iffy with Koskinen in the mix.

 

[DJJones]

That’s not at all what I did. You’re claiming the flames will be better for the same reason the leafs won’t lol. You can’t have it both ways. Or maybe you can, but only in your head does that make sense.

We didn't lose Hyman and probably Rielly. Like do you not see the difference?

 

[The90]

Leafs didn't outplay them in game 5 or 6, the Habs just sat back too much after having a lead.

Lol. We must’ve watched different games.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It’s not as excuse, the leafs still should have been able to close that series out even without their captain, they are a better team even without him. But they for sure would have won with him.

It is an excuse.
The Habs captain was so hobbled that he needed to retire after the playoffs.
Maybe Montreal defeats the Leafs in even fewer games with a healthy Weber. Maybe it’s a shorter series if the Montreal coach starts Caufield instead of inexplicably benching him the first few games. We will never know.
All we know is that the Leafs had a 3-1 lead without Tavares and lost. And they had a healthy Tavares the year before against Columbus and still lost. So no guarantees that they beat Montreal even if both teams were healthy.

 

[The90]

We didn't lose Hyman and probably Rielly. Like do you not see the difference?

Totally. Sandin and liljegren are becoming the right age to peak so no sweat losing Rielly. Like my argument? Sound reasonable?

 

[Jaytee]

Calgary, Ottawa, and Vancouver just aren't in the running yet, so they're at the bottom. That leaves four teams.

Montreal went farther than they should have, and haven not noticeably improved. Edmonton has gotten worse, or at best, remained neutral. Toronto hasn't gotten any worse, but have they gotten any better? I think they'll miss Zach Hyman more than they suspect. Winnipeg has, by a very wide margin, improved the most of any Canadian team. This is all assuming, of course, that people play as good (or bad) as expected, and barring catastrophic injuries, which is always the dark horse.

How this will play out when everybody's back in their old divisions is anybody's guess.

 

[sharks9]

Lol. We must’ve watched different games.

I guess so, because MTL was clearly the better team through the first 2 periods in both. 3rd periods and OT of game 6 were in the Leafs favour for sure, but overall MTL deserved both of those wins

 

[DJJones]

Totally. Sandin and liljegren are becoming the right age to peak so no sweat losing Rielly. Like my argument? Sound reasonable?

Haha, I'm glad you've put into context how ridiculous I think your argument is.

Yes, Sandin and Liljegren will improve. That's what young defensemen do. No, I don't think they'll replace Rielly.

 

[Byron Bitz]

It is an excuse.
The Habs captain was so hobbled that he needed to retire after the playoffs.
Maybe Montreal defeats the Leafs in even fewer games with a healthy Weber. Maybe it’s a shorter series if the Montreal coach starts Caufield instead of inexplicably benching him the first few games. We will never know.
All we know is that the Leafs had a 3-1 lead without Tavares and lost. And they had a healthy Tavares the year before against Columbus and still lost. So no guarantees that they beat Montreal even if both teams were healthy.

Lol there’s a reason why all those classless Habs fans were celebrating when Tavares went down.

 

[The90]

Haha, I'm glad you've put into context how ridiculous I think your argument is.

Yes, Sandin and Liljegren will improve. That's what young defensemen do. No, I don't think they'll replace Rielly.

Neither do I. But the thread is about this season and rielly is on the leafs this season. Meanwhile you’re counting on your players to improve, yet saying the leafs weren’t going to. Again, you can’t have it both ways.

 

[DJJones]

Neither do I. But the thread is about this season and rielly is on the leafs this season. Meanwhile you’re counting on your players to improve, yet saying the leafs weren’t going to. Again, you can’t have it both ways.

Well ya, Rielly is still on your team. This year you're fine.

 

[Three On Zero]

1. Toronto
2. Winnipeg
3. Montreal
4. Vancouver
5. Edmonton
6. Calgary
7. Ottawa

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Toronto
Edmonton
Winnipeg

Montréal
Vancouver

Ottawa

Calgary

 

[Bleeker]

OFFENSE		DEFENSE		GOALIES		TOTAL
Toronto	9.0	Montreal	7.5	Montreal	9.0	Montreal	24.0
Edmonton	8.5	Winnipeg	7.5	Winnipeg	8.5	Winnipeg	24.0
Winnipeg	8.0	Toronto	7.5	Vancouver	8.0	Toronto	23.5
Calgary	7.5	Edmonton	7.0	Calgary	7.5	Edmonton	22.5
Montreal	7.5	Calgary	7.0	Toronto	7.0	Calgary	22.0
Vancouver	7.5	Vancouver	6.5	Edmonton	7.0	Vancouver	22.0
Ottawa	7.0	Ottawa	6.0	Ottawa	6.5	Ottawa	19.5

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That's how i see it.

 

[Volica]

I can confidently say, without much hesitation; there are zero actual contenders in Canada.
Toronto will end up with the most RS points, outside of that, dick measuring between a spread of about 12 points between the other 6 franchises.

Don't think any of them make it out of the first round of the playoffs, except if one of the Western Canadian teams gets the 2nd seed in the Pacific.