Pre-Game Talk: Rangers V. Islanders - 10/14

[YoSoyLalo]

"Ya know, Glassy is a hard working guy, a great teammate, and he plays with a lot of grit. He's learned a lot these past few years, going from team to team, being a healthy scratch/benchwarmer when needed. He's a real valuable asset for us."

 

[silverfish]

I'd guess behindthenet.ca

I'm using war on ice.

Hm... Well, for the record, at Hockey-Reference.com

Glass: CF% rel: -7.1%

Fast: CF% rel: +3.3%

Interesting that they'll have such wildly different numbers...

 

[The Undertaker]

There's a reason Glass is widely considered one of the worst players in the NHL. It's a ****ing joke that he's probably going to play over a few of Fast/Miller/Hayes/Malone when everybody's healthy.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

There's a reason Glass is widely considered one of the worst players in the NHL. It's a ****ing joke that he's probably going to play over a few of Fast/Miller/Hayes/Malone when everybody's healthy.

teammate, grit, hard work, etc

 

[RGY]

Hate that Kostka is in. Hunwick is by far the better skater. Kostka did not impress during preseason at all.

I am ok with Malone in. Fast and Miller had not been that good the last couple of games. If it were not the Islanders I would've liked to have seen Fast in over Glass. Having both Hayes and Malone in up front plus Kostka make us slower. But we do need a change. Need to try something different.

 

[NYRFAN218]

Hm... Well, for the record, at Hockey-Reference.com

Glass: CF% rel: -7.1%

Fast: CF% rel: +3.3%

Interesting that they'll have such wildly different numbers...

Haven't used the site but are you sure you're sorting by strictly this year? Find it hard to believe Fast has a positive corsi relative with how bad that 4th line has been.

 

[Fugazy]

Just win, baby.

 

[AHB*]

I'm 100% on your side, just pointing out the numbers. I posted it in another thread but for all the bashing Dorsett got, he could at least keep the cycle going on that 4th line and keep the shift going. He was nowhere near as bad as people made him out to be, just overpaid.

I know you are, I'm just fired up because this guy shouldn't be near this team!

 

[silverfish]

Haven't used the site but are you sure you're sorting by strictly this year? Find it hard to believe Fast has a positive corsi relative with how bad that 4th line has been.

Yerp. click the links, they're in my post.

 

[NYR Viper]

Glass has a better On-Ice Corsi than Hagelin, Brassard and Zuccarello. Ut-oh

 

[Thirty One]

And Staal-Kostka, dear god

RIP D zone coverage.

Yeah, what are we gonna do without Klein on the second pair?
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2014020025-147-ingame-h

Glad to see Malone in. Miller has been a trainwreck through the first three. He should watch one.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Yeah, what are we gonna do without Klein on the second pair?
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2014020025-147-ingame-h

Glad to see Malone in. Miller has been a trainwreck through the first three. He should watch one.

Didn't say anything about Klein

 

[NYRFAN218]

Yerp. click the links, they're in my post.

Hm, I thought maybe I didn't sort by even strength but Glass still came in at 40% CF which is lower than your links.

 

[Thirty One]

Glass has a better On-Ice Corsi than Hagelin, Brassard and Zuccarello. Ut-oh

Yeah, Brassard and Zuccarello have been bad. Glass has been what was expected.

 

[Thirty One]

Didn't say anything about Klein

Well Kostka is taking the place of Klein, so....

 

[NYR Viper]

Yeah, what are we gonna do without Klein on the second pair?
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2014020025-147-ingame-h

Glad to see Malone in. Miller has been a trainwreck through the first three. He should watch one.

Yeah but his On-Ice Corsi has been awesome!

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=30&f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f5=NYR&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67

1st on the team, how can he be that bad?

 

[GOAT AINEC]

Malone will carry us.

 

[silverfish]

Yeah but his On-Ice Corsi has been awesome!

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=30&f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f5=NYR&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67

1st on the team, how can he be that bad?

Wow, Staal is ****ing killin' it. 33.3% Ozone starts and still 4th best on-ice corsi.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Well Kostka is taking the place of Klein, so....

so? I was just noting that that pairing will likely be a wreck in it's own zone. Didn't say "omg why isn't Klein there???". Honestly I think Staal-Kostka is a better option than the alternative because it lets us keep Moore and Klein together, but that second pairing will be ugly.

 

[Thirty One]

Yeah but his On-Ice Corsi has been awesome!

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=30&f1=2014_s&f2=5v5&f5=NYR&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67

1st on the team, how can he be that bad?

I traditionally don't look at Corsi numbers until about 20 games into the season, once a decent sample is built up. After two games.... come one.

And I don't think you can reduce a player to his Corsi.

 

[GOAT AINEC]

Maybe if Zucc wasn't busy making Ford commercials he wouldn't be sucking .

 

[Vitto79]

Please tell me Miller and Fast have Ebola or something and they arent actually being taken out...in favor of ****ing Ryan Malone.

I don't get it either. Play Miller already. Let Hayes develop in the minors. How hard is it to figure that out instead of jerking Miller around all the time?

 

[Vitto79]

Well Kostka is taking the place of Klein, so....

well he's in for Hunwick but yea RD with Staal.

 

[silverfish]

so? I was just noting that that pairing will likely be a wreck in it's own zone. Didn't say "omg why isn't Klein there???". Honestly I think Staal-Kostka is a better option than the alternative because it lets us keep Moore and Klein together, but that second pairing will be ugly.

I think Staal is very quietly having a nice season for us so far. +2 in 21 minutes against the Leafs the other night (LOL, +/-, I know)

 

[theJUMPER]

Corsi! Fenwick! PDOs!