Confirmed with Link: Rangers re-sign Vlad Namestnikov (2 years x 4.0M)

[RangerBoy]

This contract takes Namestnikov to group III. Two years away.

The Matt Cane projection for 2 years was $3.8M per. $3,796,941.



Anyone who says Namestinov used the KHL to get more money doesn't know what they are talking about. Like this guy.

 

[pld459666]

Miller also has 3 career goals when it counts... in 57 games.

How many does Names have?

That's right. He has 1 goal and 4 points in 29 games

Compared to three goals and 24 points in 57 games

 

[SnowblindNYR]

How many does Names have?

At most 3 less.

 

[nyr2k2]

Also, I don't want to hear about JT not getting a shot from AV. f*** AV and all, but JT played everywhere in the lineup at various points. He was a productive player, but he was streaky as hell and sometimes just floated around. And in the end, GORTON traded Miller. The team obviously knew they were going to fire AV--do you think they would have traded Miller had they believed his problems were a result of the coach they were going to fire? Come on. Miller is gone because the organization apparently grew tired of him. Forget about him.

 

[Trxjw]

He's a versatile body who can insulate the kids as they make the jump. I'm fine overpaying him by $250k per year to have that in my pocket while not having to commit to him long-term.

 

[Tawnos]

4 mil per? is Gorton insane? what did he do to earn 4 mil? now he is pretty much untradeable unless he has a very productive season.

Give it a rest.

$4m isn’t that much money.

 

[Trxjw]

Why do you guys keep feeding the obvious troll accounts? C'mon.

 

[nyr2k2]

4 mil per? is Gorton insane? what did he do to earn 4 mil? now he is pretty much untradeable unless he has a very productive season.

He's a guy that averages .5 PPG who plays a 200-foot game. How on earth is this a bad contract?

Please, find me a comparable player and a comparable contract that reflects what you think is fair value.

 

[Ori]

Yes true @nyr2k2 , Namestnokov need to show the new coach and management that he can be a productive player, and I think he should be happy with two years. Maybe he wanted some additional years and better terms, but there are still good opportunities for him to be successful here.

 

[QJL]

This is a fine deal. I'm glad we stayed away from a long-term commitment. If he shows up the next two seasons, I'd be open to keeping on board a top 9 winger.

Those saying Hayes is a goner because Namestnikov can play C, I disagree. I think Spooner gets moved this week.

 

[Tawnos]

Also, I don't want to hear about JT not getting a shot from AV. **** AV and all, but JT played everywhere in the lineup at various points. He was a productive player, but he was streaky as hell and sometimes just floated around. And in the end, GORTON traded Miller. The team obviously knew they were going to fire AV--do you think they would have traded Miller had they believed his problems were a result of the coach they were going to fire? Come on. Miller is gone because the organization apparently grew tired of him. Forget about him.

Halfway through last season, the only Rangers forward getting more even strength time than Miller was Zuccarello. He got plenty of opportunity under AV.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Also, I don't want to hear about JT not getting a shot from AV. **** AV and all, but JT played everywhere in the lineup at various points. He was a productive player, but he was streaky as hell and sometimes just floated around. And in the end, GORTON traded Miller. The team obviously knew they were going to fire AV--do you think they would have traded Miller had they believed his problems were a result of the coach they were going to fire? Come on. Miller is gone because the organization apparently grew tired of him. Forget about him.

He got a shorter leash than I have ever seen for a highly touted 1st round pick. The entire team was guilty of these sins yet JT always, always was the scapegoat. Remember 2016-17 Kevin Hayes? AV clearly had a problem with Miller, which Miller also flat out came out with in his first interviews with TB. He's one of the top 5-10 forward producers the NYR have developed in my lifetime and got more shit from the coaching staff than anyone.

 

[broadwayblue]

4 mil per? is Gorton insane? what did he do to earn 4 mil? now he is pretty much untradeable unless he has a very productive season.

Untradeable? Where do you come up with this stuff? He'd only have one year left on his term. If he's any good at all there will be quite a few teams interested at the deadline this year or next.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I like his versatility and the contract is fine. I think Spooner is a better player and I hope we don't trade him for nothing.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

He's a guy that averages .5 PPG who plays a 200-foot game. How on earth is this a bad contract?

Please, find me a comparable player and a comparable contract that reflects what you think is fair value.

he kills penalties? he is good defensively? He should have gotten 3.5 mil

 

[nyr2k2]

he kills penalties? he is good defensively? He should have gotten 3.5 mil

Your response literally addresses nothing I said.

Seriously, until you show me a comparable, you're just another person who comes on here bitching about RFA contracts without understanding how they work.

Look at the spreadsheet RB linked to at the top of the page that is based on empirical data. It predicted $3.8M AAV for Namestnikov. $200K less than what he got. He got what was "deserved" but also what the market would dictate based on similar players and contracts. These deals are always based on other past deals for similar players. That's how it works. They don't just pull numbers out of thin air.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

2 years for him is perfect. Great contract.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Give it a rest.

$4m isn’t that much money.

I don't even give much of a shit about the money to begin with. For someone like Names, it was always the term. Term, term, term, term, term. 2 years for him is fantastic. I was worried we'd get suckered into a longer term.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Until Namestnikov shows me anything to be excited about I want him gone. Not happy at all about 4 mil cap hit, means they aren't trading him yet otherwise they would trade him and have the other team come to terms with him.

 

[broadwayblue]

Until Namestnikov shows me anything to be excited about I want him gone. Not happy at all about 4 mil cap hit, means they aren't trading him yet otherwise they would trade him and have the other team come to terms with him.

They aren't trading him now.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Namestnikov is a placeholder and possible trade chip. That’s all. Not worth the negative energy some people are expending.

 

[aufheben]

Awesome. Glad he wasn’t traded.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Until Namestnikov shows me anything to be excited about I want him gone. Not happy at all about 4 mil cap hit, means they aren't trading him yet otherwise they would trade him and have the other team come to terms with him.

The f*** are you talking about?

Like, this take is so God damn hot that I need to walk outside in this 100 degree day and lay down on the pavement just to cool off.

 

[Machinehead]

It's never really money. It's always term and NMC.

A contact is never bad because of cap-hit as long as it goes away.

I like Namestnikov, but assuming the absolute worst, this goes away.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Awesome. Glad he wasn’t traded.

We can trade him the season after next at the deadline and eat 50% of his contract for a late 1st or a 2nd and a prospect.