Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Flyers

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NYR Viper

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I couldn't believe how much the puck followed Lindberg around. He and Stalberg complimented each other well. Stalberg can get there and free up pucks and Lindberg plays well in small spaces.
 

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I forget who said it in the game thread but the Rangers breaking camp with 8 defensemen makes sense if they are thinking about trading Klein.

Diaz and Bellemore are not the answer though. Bodie and McIlrath?


Bodie looks to have gained 7-10 pounds over the summer, but will still get physically destroyed in the NHL during the regular season. He had 39 points in 90 games (regular season and the playoffs), but I'd like to see him go to .75 points per game this season, then build more muscle next summer.
 

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SUMMARY:

The BEST:

-MCl - Was out BEST Dman
-Lingberg - Great 2nd period, and OK 1st and 3rd.
-Miller - GREAT 1st, ok 2nd, and ok 3rd.

The GOOD:
Etem - VERY good game all around, good defensive, good physically, good offensively.
Stalberg - good all game, nothing GREAT but did what he had to.
Stoll - Will be a good 4th liner center. Bye bye Moore?

The Bad:
Hart
Graves


The Worst:
Diaz
Kabanov

Obviously we'll have to agree to disagree Fly but serious question. What is it that you see in Etem that no one else sees? I just don't get it.
 

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Guys who are already NHL regulars are rarely any good in these games because it's a warmup to them where other guy's seasons are on the line.

Hayes sucked tonight imo but I don't care at this juncture.

My concern with Klein is that this is going all the way back to the playoffs.
 

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Yeah, not the most exciting game ive watched!

Richard Nesfjngrmvjfnrdszzleb though, lol
 

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First cuts are supposed to be after tonights game. Just sayin..
 

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Obviously we'll have to agree to disagree Fly but serious question. What is it that you see in Etem that no one else sees? I just don't get it.

Other posters have said he played well. So please dont say its JUST me. Either you were expecting him to play like Kreider, or you were expecting him to be a AHLer(so u looked for every little play to rip on him).

Tonight: Etem > Hayes , just saying (obviously Hayes is BETTER, but if we are judging on ONE game)
 

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Philly had Gagner, Schenn, Umberger and Simmonds who are top6 players or were previously. We only had bottom-6 players in Hayes, Etem, Miller, Stoll and Lindberg. Also, they had their no. 1 goalie out there for 65 minutes.

I was very impressed with Nejezchleb and I am happy he got to show what he can do and hopefully it's enough to get a contract because he has the tools to make it if he gets the chance to develop in Hartford
 

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I love and miss hockey but that game made me want to gouge out my eyes and never watch it again.

That said:

Lindberg- a New York Ranger. He was the best player on the ice for the Rangers. I know that's saying zero but still. The puck followed him around all night, unfortunately so did some of his teammates.

McIlrath- was ok, with more ice time I think he can be decent. I didn't think he had a great game but he wasn't bad. Quite frankly he was paired with a tomato can most of the night.

Diaz- was hot garbage.

Klein, meh squared.

Graves is not ready for the NHL but has promise.

Kabanov- he has a neck tattoo, get rid of him.

Hayes, Miller were non existent, I think Hayes is still in Norway. Miller had a good first period, I think he went to the bathroom to poop and missed the 2nd and 3rd. Incidentally, when he's on the ice with Bodie, I think Olympic Skiing.

Nejwhatever- see Graves, although he was very skilled at times.

Bourque- Didn't see much out of him. I mean he played but you need to see more for him make the team.

Bodie- A puck magnet like Lindberg. He has some potential. You can't teach a player how to be around the puck that much. I know he's older and small as the Keebler elf but again if he can develop some maybe he can be a Rafalski type guy. Look that's humongous "if" I know. For some reason he impressed me tonight.

Stalberg- He looked decent paired with Lindberg, at least that line didn't totally suck like the other 3.

Etem- Is it possible to go back in time and get Carl Hagelin back? Dare to dream.

Stoll- Watching him take a face-off, I can really see what drew Erin Andrews to him. He makes faceoffs an art form.

Diaz- My god he sucks.

Adam- Who?

Hart- played like Owen.

Diaz- wow awful.

Raanta- stood on his head for about 20 seconds and then let in a bunch of goals.

Hellberg- He has a cool name.


Please blow up this lineup card and hope to hell it's never conjured up again.

Your brand of comedy may not be for everyone but the bolded is why you're on of my favorite posters on here :laugh:



Agree with all your assessments too.
 

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I thought we should have given Gibbons another look instead of wasting everyone's time on Kabanov.
 

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Lindberg -Moore-Stalberg would be a phenomenal 4th line, but you gotta assume Glass is playing any time McIlrath sits because AV will want a designated fighter in the lineup.
 

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If a bad corsi breaks up a 3-1 and turns it into a offensive chance the other way then so be it. Diesel played good. His best play was in the the 3rd(see above). His skating did seem a bit tired in the 3rd TBO.
Bodie looked good, I would love to see the rangers play 7d and use him as a specialist. He is one smart player. I was thinking all this then he scored twice.
KK skated too much and when he skates too much he looks like he did tonight, not bad but not as good as he can be.
Graves will be a player in a season or two. His skating needs some work and he needs to increase his overall speed in making plays but I liked what I saw, a lot.
Diaz had a bad night. Was he this bad yesterday?
Bellemore looked like a AHLer.
Kabanov I would like to see in the AHL, then take another look next training camp.
Nez I liked his game.
I would like to see Lindberg, Stoll and Stalberg on the team.
Emerson I like his speed but right now I'm not seeing anything special. He has some nice hands(much better then Hags) and wheels but his hockey IQ is lower then Hags and that is a bummer.
 

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Diaz played well against the Devils but tonight he stunk.

It wasn't our greatest lineup. Klein was our one established d-man. Hayes our best offensive player.

Not that the Flyers played their best lineup either but they stuck with Mason all the way--had two NHL vet d-men--one vet KHL d-man and three blue chip prospects playing on their blueline as well--and more of their regular offensive contributors--though minus Giroux and Voracek.
 

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Lindberg -Moore-Stalberg would be a phenomenal 4th line, but you gotta assume Glass is playing any time McIlrath sits because AV will want a designated fighter in the lineup.

I dont know...Stoll could very easily take Moores spot..
 

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I thought we should have given Gibbons another look instead of wasting everyone's time on Kabanov.

Kabanov led his Swedish team in points per game among forwards (a defenseman was the overall leader). The SHL is one of the top leagues in the world, on par with the AHL. Obviously the Rangers wanted to see what he's got. I'd give him one more game to see if tonight was just nerves.
 
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Kabanov led his Swedish team in points per game among forwards (a defenseman was the overall leader). The SHL is one of the top leagues in the world, on part with the AHL. Obviously the Rangers wanted to see what he's got. I'd give him one more game to see if tonight was just nerves.

On a garbage team.

And he played like **** tonight. Did NOTHING. For a guy who you would think would give it is all, I guess for forgot(or he sucks that bad)
 

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I feel Kabanov and Nejezchleb both deserve a contract because they are better than some of the players we have in Hartford. Like Tambo, Iverson, Fogarty and Nieves they have the tools to develop into an NHL player.
 

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Guys who are already NHL regulars are rarely any good in these games because it's a warmup to them where other guy's seasons are on the line.

Hayes sucked tonight imo but I don't care at this juncture.

My concern with Klein is that this is going all the way back to the playoffs.

First you tell us that McIlrath's corsi numbers sucked then you tell us the guys who are NHL regulars play like ******* in exhibition games so I'm wondering how all those NHL regulars playing like crap effected McIlrath's corsi numbers because they were on the ice with Dylan a lot. Maybe you could explain that?
 

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First you tell us that McIlrath's corsi numbers sucked then you tell us the guys who are NHL regulars play like ******* in exhibition games so I'm wondering how all those NHL regulars playing like crap effected McIlrath's corsi numbers because they were on the ice with Dylan a lot. Maybe you could explain that?

All of our NHL regulars had good corsi tonight.

That includes Klein who I thought was horrible BTW, so it obviously doesn't mean everything, especially in a one game sample.

It's just a theory that maybe McIlrath ran out of gas in the 3rd.
 

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Other posters have said he played well. So please dont say its JUST me. Either you were expecting him to play like Kreider, or you were expecting him to be a AHLer(so u looked for every little play to rip on him).

Tonight: Etem > Hayes , just saying (obviously Hayes is BETTER, but if we are judging on ONE game)

That's not true at all. I always look at the game as a whole and I want the best possible team iced. I was expecting him to bust his ass on pure adrenaline alone but he didn't impress as per usual. This is the what the typical Etem brings and that's what I've been saying all along. He just doesn't have it IMO. It's nothing personal..
 

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McIlrath was really good again in the first two periods, but had a mostly up and down third. Definitely looked a little gassed. I really think he's played his way into that #7 spot though.

Graves is very raw, but the tools are there. Gap control was rough, but that's to be expected with a kid who has never skated at this level before. Some nerves there, but definitely had number of positives.

Diaz isn't a NHL-caliber defender. Don't understand what the team sees in him.

Klein looks very rusty. If he can't iron out his game before opening night, maybe McIlrath gets a few games ahead of him.

Bellmore had a quiet night. Had a few good plays. If Diaz bolts and AV wants to roll 8 defenders, maybe he gets that spot.

Bodie definitely has offensive skill, but he's just so lost in his own end and way too weak on the puck.

Etem was all over the map. Tough to shine in your first game, but he was given a pretty good look and I don't think he showed enough. Hayes wasn't exactly on top of his game, but Etem looked like a passenger.

Hayes, like I said, was off his game. Gotta shake off the rust.

Miller was good. Love that he was asserting himself physically, but he also tried to force some plays that weren't there. Good steps in the right direction though.

Lindberg was the best Ranger forward tonight. Strong on the puck, hounding on the forecheck, and strong in his own end. He's gotta be on the team.

Stoll wasn't particularly noticeable.

Stalberg was up and down again. Used his speed more, but he definitely floats more than I'd like.

Bourque has solid tools, but he's just too small. Think he gets cut.

Nejezchleb was impressive in limited minutes. Has really quick hands and is strong on the puck. Should get an AHL deal, IMO.

Kabanov probably sealed his fate with his irresponsible play. Didn't have much hope for him, but it's still depressing to watch him sputter like that. Maybe he gets another game, but I doubt it.
 

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Etem was as advertised, mistakes made, poor positioning and shot selection. The brains or some would say IQ just isn't there. Looked stupid out there.

Graves looked a lot better than I would've pegged, very good long reach and mobility. Rangers might have a keeper here.

Nezejchlebovich was good, much bigger than I thought, looked like he had a pro body.

McIlrath was good, not great but he played next to a disaster in Diaz. Can't put him down as someone that will make the team yet, but he needs two more flawless outings. Didn't help that his partner took 3 stupid penalties. Saw limited ice time again as the game went on. I would think that he now has a hill to climb.

Diaz played like he's got term and a high quality of life waiting for him back in Switzerland. Nothing wrong with that.

Stoll was good. Did his job.

Lindberg was very good, did his job from the wing, and chipped in offensively again, he has a sneaky smart shot. He's making the team.

Bodie played well, looked bigger than last year yet he's still undersized. Somebody get this kid some PEDs. He fits the system, very smart in joining the rush and good with the puck. You don't want him in the defensive zone though.

Philly iced a stronger team than the Devils and it was interesting to see how the coaches managed ice time. Biggest surprise was Graves. They like him.

Team will make cuts after this, some guys are obvious, but some other guys should be nervous.
 
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