Proposal: Rangers-Avalanche

[JC704]

To Rangers:
Tyson Jost

To Avalanche:
Pavel Buchnevich

Have at it.

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[GirardSpinorama]

Rangers won't do this since Pavel has just broken out last year and right now is the more productive player.

I wouldn't do this as an Avs fan, Jost really stepped it up in the playoffs and we have seen enough glimpses and know his work ethic that he'll start putting it together.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Why?

 

[Lays]

Easy pass from the Rangers. Buch broke out after the TDL by molding his game, I wanna see if he can continue that first before trading him. He paced for 25 goals and 49 points on an offensively challenged team and was bounced around until later in the year when he started showing a much more aggressive side. Jost is pretty meh

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

No reason for the Avs to give up on Jost yet. He's still younger than Buchnevich was in his first NHL game, so it makes much more sense to just keep him and see what he can do in his 21 year old season.

 

[forsbergavs32]

NYR passes with Buch breaking out last year and he scores more right now

Avs pass with Jost having a great end to the year and potentially getting ready to break out, plus he's younger.

Value-wise...Avs would probably have to add a bit

 

[Chileiceman]

From an Avs perspective, sure why not. I've also always like Buchnevich so there's that. He's probably going to have some good years ahead of him, but hasn't really broken out yet so we might be able to get him long term at a decent cap hit, perhaps lower than what Jost will command next off season if he has a break out season.

 

[Balthazar]

Neither team needs to trade these players. Pointless proposal.

 

[Avaholic29]

No from both teams.

Buch ended the year strong and Jost has more upside and is the younger player. This year will be josts year to show that he's a top 6 player.

 

[Savant]

Rangers can't pick up Cap

 

[GAGLine]

Rangers can't pick up Cap

Jost makes 886k. Buchnevich will make at least 2.5 mil and probably closer to 3.5 mil.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Buch > Jost easy as of now so I wouldn't do it if I was the Rangers.

 

[Anzi]

If I were the Avs I would do it. Buch is the more sure thing and the Avs are in win now mode with a great shot at winning it all in the next few years while MacKinnon is on his current contract and guys like Makar are on their ELC. Jost may or may not be the better player in the long term future but I'd say it is very likely Buch will be the better overall player for the next 3 years.

 

[Patagonia]

Why?

Both players are progressing and still young. Bush is the better player, but also older.

 

[Kupo]

I like Jost..

But not at Buch’s expense.

Can we interest you in a gently used Namestnikov or Strome for a 2nd?

 

[bernmeister]

Rangers can't pick up Cap

Jost makes 886k. Buchnevich will make at least 2.5 mil and probably closer to 3.5 mil.

cap is only reason for Rangers to consider this
hard pass, since Buch commands more in trade value than Jost at this time.

 

[Richard88]

Kreider is the only Ranger with realistic chances of being involved in a trade with Colorado, with futures most likely going the other way (eg. COL 2020 1st).

 

[QJL]

This is not a bad proposal. Risky move by the Rangers but fills a positional need and clears cap. Avs get the safer player and add more punch to the current lineup.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

Nah man.

 

[Patagonia]

Kreider is the only Ranger with realistic chances of being involved in a trade with Colorado, with futures most likely going the other way (eg. COL 2020 1st).

AVs no longer need Kreider and definitely not moving their 1st for a pending UFA.

 

[Richard88]

AVs no longer need Kreider and definitely not moving their 1st for a pending UFA.

If there's an extension then the 1st would be worth it, considering that it would likely be a late 1st.

Kreider being a target or not probably depends largely on how well Burakovsky, Jost, Donskoi, and Compher do this season up to the deadline. If two of those perform as legitimate top 6 forwards then Kreider is probably not necessary.

That said, bolstering the top 6 without giving up anything on the roster (i.e. with the 2020 1st)6 would make for a pretty stacked team going into the playoffs...

Landeskog --- Mackinnon --- Rantanen
Kreider ---------- Kadri ------- Burakovsky
Donskoi ---------- Jost -------- Compher
Wilson --------- Bellemare ---- Calvert
(Nieto/Kamenev/Bowers)

Girard --- Johnson
Zadorov -- Makar
Byram ---- Cole
(Connauton/Rosen/Barberio/Timmins/Meloche)

Grubauer
Francouz

 

[The Crypto Guy]

AVs no longer need Kreider and definitely not moving their 1st for a pending UFA.

So going into the season with just 1 line again?

 

[Patagonia]

If there's an extension then the 1st would be worth it, considering that it would likely be a late 1st.

Kreider being a target or not probably depends largely on how well Burakovsky, Jost, Donskoi, and Compher do this season up to the deadline. If two of those perform as legitimate top 6 forwards then Kreider is probably not necessary.

That said, bolstering the top 6 without giving up anything on the roster (i.e. with the 2020 1st)6 would make for a pretty stacked team going into the playoffs...

Landeskog --- Mackinnon --- Rantanen
Kreider ---------- Kadri ------- Burakovsky
Donskoi ---------- Jost -------- Compher
Wilson --------- Bellemare ---- Calvert
(Nieto/Kamenev/Bowers)

Girard --- Johnson
Zadorov -- Makar
Byram ---- Cole
(Connauton/Rosen/Barberio/Timmins/Meloche)

Grubauer
Francouz

AVs have prospects throughout the lineup and they won't be interested in a pending UFA. Even with the failures of Bura, Donskoi and Jost, there is still Newhook, Kaut, Bowers, Kamenev etc. ready to join the team. With the deepest young DMen players, they can move the puck quickly up-ice they'll make average forwards look good.

Kreider was a target, but the opportunity has since passed. The Bura & Kadri trades and Donskoi signing they're done for now.

 

[Patagonia]

So going into the season with just 1 line again?

Kadri is a better 2C than any Ranger and the AVs are still a much better team with 1 line

 

[Avaholic29]

So going into the season with just 1 line again?

Jost is 21 and has alot more to give than one year of Kreider who will probably look to lock up a deal with term come year end. As sakic has shown, he has no interest in long term deals in the midst of having to sign the big 3 in the next 4 years. I'd rather be a non cap strapped playoff team in the years Makar, landeskog, MacKinnon and rantanen need deals.