bernmeister
Registered User
again, so your endgame with this is to trade Puljujarvi for more than you traded for him after dumping Helm and conditional diddly on the Oilers?
You get Helm for nothing, then dump him and nothing on the Oilers for Puljujarvi (we cant afford Helm by the way) who are then supposed to pray that you actually do something positive with him to get ANY kind of a return back?
no. Not happening. This is the worst trade proposal I have ever heard.
Pulj does not deserve any kind of productive return until he produces.
The fact that he is still w/Oil after EDM presumably making efforts to unload him earlier is proof of this.
There is a reward-risk equation to these things and most other forms of business.
Obviously, in most trades, there is a reasonable expectation of some measure of at least a minimum degree of projection being fulfilled.
But in this case, the risk of failure is too high unless the price is either ridiculously low, or offset by not having to pay until the player delivers. Upfront.
It is a free country.
You are at liberty to think what you wish.
However, entitlement to your own opinion is not an entitlement to your own set of facts.
While it is based on perception, intuition, what have you, no suitor is emerging for JP b'c, any other variable aside, the price is too high.
I have said to you there is zero way you will get anything substantial upfront. The only hope you have of anything substantial is either:
hold 0n to him and hope he emerges;
or
let someone buy that scenario, which they will not pay up front, and if JP is an overnight sensation down the road, THEN they pay you top dollar.
You want to refute that logic, good luck.
We all said you would not unload Lucic unless you paid including taking on a bad contract.
You lucked out b'c Flames dropped what was supposed to be virtually same bad contract on you, but lo and behold, you benefit from Neal's change of scenery, while Calgary did not does as well on that so far.
You only need one taker for Pulj.
But I still say expect no one to fork over anything upfront until they have a reason to, unless there is some x factor [like discipline issues with Buf, etc.].
I agree you can't afford Helm, but if you got him for free, I figured you would at least try to be creative and dump some of your least valuable contracts on a suitor who might oblige with cap space for an inducement.
Anyway.
I've said my peace as you have said yours.
We shall all wait and see.