Radko Gudas hit on Vesey

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Welcome to the new NHL. Where players receiving the puck feel turning your back should make you ineligible to be hit.

Wouldn't have even given Gudas a minor.

And that's exactly why you'd never be an NHL referee.

 

[BernieParent]

Turning quickly isn't against the rules. Hitting someone in their numbers and into the boards is against the rules.

Gudas always does this sort of thing. Really wish the refs let him and McIlrath go.

You are ignoring the text of the rules in which turning quickly – ie, putting oneself in a vulnerable position – mitigates the illegality of hitting someone in the numbers. Thus, Kerry Fraser is quoted multiple times in this thread.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

At full speed Vesey is 100% to blame

But he wasn't the one charging to a guy near the boards at full speed?

 

[Devilsfan118]

Welcome to the NHL kid.

Don't turn your back to a guy coming to hit you. Be a man and take the hit.

 

[Sweet Lou]

Gudas had Vesey lined up for a clean hit until the last possible moment. Gudas got his major penalty and Vesey isn't injured. Let it go everyone.

 

[Ducksforcup]

Honestly it shouldn't even be a penalty. Gudas isn't exactly known as a "clean" player, but this is totally OK imo.

 

[4thline]

But he wasn't the one charging to a guy near the boards at full speed?

AKA "playing defense?"

 

[4thline]

I don't give the NFL credit for much when it comes to rules, but they did make head hits on QBs black and white, no room for debate. The NHL needs to do the same and get rid of the language that allows for this discussion.

"My views aren't reflected in the realities of this sport. The league needs to change to satisfy my wants."

The "language that allows for this discussion" is not some poorly written oversight. It's by design to allow for the ambiguity of the situation and to keep player safety rules from changing the game.

A. A player leaving it too late to cutback and getting hit by an already committed player is nothing like the inherent vulnerability of a QB standing in the pocket. What your advocating for would be more like a rule that if the QB sees the rush coming he can spin his back to them and become ineligible to be hit and the rush must do everything possible to avoid the collision, throwing themselves out of the play and allowing the QB to complete the pass.

B. The last thing the league needs is more americanization of it's rules. Next thing we know we'll have players trying to draw the charge defensively and deliberately losing control of the puck and shooting it over the glass when they feel contact to draw a penalty.

 

[Joannie9]

I'm a fan of neither team but no doubt Vesey turned at the last second. Gudas had no time to react, he was already lined up to make the hit.

 

[Stuckinthe2ndround*]

These turn at the last second hits are so frustrating. Gudas established the direction of his skating. Had Vesey not tried to turn, the hit wouldn't have been nearly this severe.

What's next, players are going to start ducking before hits and HFBoards is going to be up in arms because people are getting cut with skates?

 

[Swic21]

Nothing ever changes. Per last year and Simmonds, Gudas, Schenn: Flyers play thug hockey.

Schenn? Lol.

 

[Swic21]

Nobody is afraid of McIlrath. Hell, Voracek wrestled him to the ground with relative ease. Simmonds beat him in the "retribution fight" and he was giving up a few inches and like 50 lbs (Simmonds getting a knick above his eye does not change that). Go to hockeyfights.com and watch it if your memory is fuzzy.

I'm actually terrified to even mention his name. From now on D.M will be known as "he who must not be named". The fear he causes is second to none. Absolute destroyer.

 

[Paul4587]

Awesome hit. Vesey shouldn't have turned at the last second.

 

[StoneHands]

I love all the "Typical Gudas" posts. As if he has some extensive suspension history.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

The last thing we need is players turning their back to opponents to make themselves exempt from being hit. It's dangerous.

That's why we have a middle ground. I even said that Vesey put himself in a bad spot but I also think Gudas did follow through even though contact was pretty unavoidable at that point. At that speed the penalty was fine, in my opinion. No more than that.

I just think it is a bad idea to start interpreting that rule as "if he turns his back late, he is fair game."

 

[chupanibre]

Vesey is going to have to learn quickly

 

[SotasicA]

Vesey can't do that. He saw Gudas was coming. Gudas did nothing wrong. It didn't look like he intended to hit him in the back, but how do you avoid it if Vesey just turns his back at the last moment? It's like jumping in front of a car.

 

[nomorekids]

 

[BHD]

That's why we have a middle ground. I even said that Vesey put himself in a bad spot but I also think Gudas did follow through even though contact was pretty unavoidable at that point. At that speed the penalty was fine, in my opinion. No more than that.

I just think it is a bad idea to start interpreting that rule as "if he turns his back late, he is fair game."

That's what I take issue with as well.

 

[goonybird]

bunch of victim blamers

 

[mja]

bunch of victim blamers

Yes, Vesey is a victim because Radko Gudas doesn't possess superhuman reflexes.

 

[Cor]

Keep ya head up kid!

 

[BernieParent]

bunch of victim blamers

When did it become common law in society that a person suffering from the outcome of an event is immune to being blamed – either in whole or in part – for its cause? I'd like to put that on my List of Things to Correct Once My Time Machine is Ready.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Awesome hit. Vesey shouldn't have turned at the last second.

I have to admit I thought the league was going to hand down a suspension even knowing the kid turned late and gave Radko no time to slow down. But with his track record I was worried. Glad to see the NHL made the correct call and I was wrong.

 

[mja]

When did it become common law in society that a person suffering from the outcome of an event is immune to being blamed – either in whole or in part – for its cause? I'd like to put that on my List of Things to Correct Once My Time Machine is Ready.

Children should feel absolutely free to suddenly run into the street wherever they would like to. If they get hit, it's the drivers fault.