Raanta Forced to Leave Game, Canucks Win

[Angry Hockey Dad]

Player safety is more important than 2 points in my opinion. The right call was made, if that translates to an advantage for the Canucks that's un-lucky for the Rangers. Didn't see the play but Granlund is not the player to run a goalie intentionally. I'll go find a replay and if I'm wrong I apologize in advance.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Any goalie thrown in to action cold because of a spotter forcing a goaltender out should be allowed a period of time to warm up.

Right. It's important to save a guy from a second concussion but goaltenders can't be expected to play cold, either. Suppose the NY guy pops a hamstring because he is cold and needs to make a tough save. Typical of the NHL to ad hoc the **** out of everything.

 

[DeltaSwede]

There has got to be some kind off warmup allowed if this happens. I'm not saying several minutes, but maybe a minute (they can cut to commercial break because they sure love doing that).

Checking Raanta was the right thing to do, you can't argue about that, player safety goes above anything else. But going in cold without a warmup, might lead to another injury on the backup.

 

[Murky]

Why are people objecting to having a couple of minutes for the backup to warm up, in case he is pulled by a spotter? Let's not talk about this case here, but in general.

I think the spotters are good. I think the protocol is good. I think it would be even better if the protocol included 120 seconds warmup for the backup in case of a goalie. If nothing else it would reduce the risk of the backup being injured.

The game would be delayed by 120 seconds. That is a negative but nothing major in my opinion. Why are people so strongly against it? Is there some other negatives I am missing?

 

[sourdough]

Why are people objecting to having a couple of minutes for the backup to warm up, in case he is pulled by a spotter? Let's not talk about this case here, but in general.

I think the spotters are good. I think the protocol is good. I think it would be even better if the protocol included 120 seconds warmup for the backup in case of a goalie. If nothing else it would reduce the risk of the backup being injured.

The game would be delayed by 120 seconds. That is a negative but nothing major in my opinion. Why are people so strongly against it? Is there some other negatives I am missing?

It's fine as long as it's the spotter that pulls the goalie because they are independent. I wouldn't be okay if it happened when a teams trainer pulled a goalie because that can be abused by a team that is chasing a lead late in the third.

 

[Murky]

It's fine as long as it's the spotter that pulls the goalie because they are independent. I wouldn't be okay if it happened when a teams trainer pulled a goalie because that can be abused by a team that is chasing a lead late in the third.

Of course.

 

[gorangers0525]

Rangers needed to be put down a level anyway

 

[Stopsight]

Good call by spotter

 

[Micklebot]

Nobody else gets warmup time so why should Lundqvist ? This isn't unusual. Backups are always put in cold.

I think it would be reasonable to give the goalie a warm up in the event that the starter was injured on a play which the ref deemed warranted a penalty.

That said, it's currently not in the rules, and might be hard to apply in cases where the goalie initially stays in only to get hooked by league spotters.

 

[Beville]

To me, this is a whole lot of moaning for no proper reason...

like, yeah it's annoying you lost but better safe than sorry... This is an actual persons life at stake here...

 

[ecemleafs]

Rangers sucked tonight, but it's disappointing that someone was forced to leave the game when he felt fine. It's also garbage that the backup can't warmup when the nhl forces a goalie change...

 

[EpicDing]

The Rangers lost because they played a bad game, not because Raanta was yanked. I still think there has to be a better way to do it in this scenario though.

 

[colin6]

If this same situation happened in a Game 7 OT scenario, you can't have a spotter making this call to pull a goalie 5 minutes after the possible injury and a team having to throw a cold goalie in there with no warmup. Give them a few minutes to warmup, it's pretty simple and fair. If such a situation happened and it causes a team to get eliminated, the NHL would get destroyed by the criticism.

 

[Section32]

To me, this is a whole lot of moaning for no proper reason...

like, yeah it's annoying you lost but better safe than sorry... This is an actual persons life at stake here...

Why is this argument so hard for people to grasp?

The point is that Lundqvist was given no time to warm up- no stretching, nothing.

Clearly the player's health comes first. Giving the incoming goalie 2-3 minutes to prepare himself should be permissible.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Don't both goalies take shots before the game? How much warm up is necessary? It's not like starters are taking shots before each period starts.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Maybe not in the regular season, but in the playoffs they should give the team whose goalie goes off the option of waiting for the tests to conclude before the game resumes.

Otherwise, this creates a nice incentive for a goon to run a goalie in the playoffs in a tense meaningful game.

 

[ecemleafs]

Don't both goalies take shots before the game? How much warm up is necessary? It's not like starters are taking shots before each period starts.

He'd been sitting on the bench for over 2 hours at that point...

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Lindquist should have had time to warm up, but you shouldn't have been tied with the Canucks in the first place.

 

[Analyst365]

News flash: concussions are serious brain injuries that if left untreated can lead to cognitive impairment.

 

[M2Beezy]

Why is this argument so hard for people to grasp?

The point is that Lundqvist was given no time to warm up- no stretching, nothing.

Clearly the player's health comes first. Giving the incoming goalie 2-3 minutes to prepare himself should be permissible.

Thats what Im thinking too and not sure why people are arguing against this. Good point but should be obvious

 

[aemoreira1981]

News flash: concussions are serious brain injuries that if left untreated can lead to cognitive impairment.

The issue is that since it's the spotter's call, the affected team should get warmup time (not the team's call).

 

[who_me?]

Proof that the so called king is mentally weak. It wasn't that he wasn't physically ready, the guy wasn't mentally ready.

 

[J Canuck]

He should have been given a chance to warmup. It's not like the coach was trying to stall the game by changing the goalie, which I think is the reasoning behind not allowing a warmup. The league took over the decision and should make allowances.

 

[Aestivalis]

I remember an STL-CHI game last year where Hitchcock pulled Brian Elliott, put in Jake Allen, then later pulled Allen and put Elliott back in. He did this to give Elliott a break from a load of goals against, but it worked as a free time-out. And indeed it worked as the Blues recovered and won in overtime, but should that have been called out as shenanigans? Allen was ready to go without warm-up, then when Elliott got his head back on straight, he was also ready to go as well. As a Hawks fan, I don't see anyone other than the Hawks being responsible for giving up their 5-2 lead.
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/stl-vs-chi/2015/11/04/2015020182#game=2015020182,game_state=final


How is the Rangers' situation anyone other than Lundquist's fault? He had to be ready and he wasn't.

 

[ramdm5]

It's not like Lundqvist let in 2 supersoft goals. I understand the annoyance but I think putting in a cold goalie is the best way to go about it anyway.