Yeah I did not like it when Boeser did it and I won't like it any less with Hughes. You know that Gillis would never have allowed that shit. Different times....
That was also like half a decade ago when grit and potato are still valued heavily around the leagueYeah I did not like it when Boeser did it and I won't like it any less with Hughes. You know that Gillis would never have allowed that ****. Different times....
Yeah I did not like it when Boeser did it and I won't like it any less with Hughes. You know that Gillis would never have allowed that ****. Different times....
To me, the difference seems to be that when Gillis was making sacrifices to win games, he was putting together a team perennially competing for a championship... not... a team perennially competing for 5th overall draft positionIt certainly is debatable, but Gillis had no issue burning a year off Corrado's ELC. If the Canucks are still in a position to make the playoffs when it comes time for Hughes to sign, I think if Gillis was the GM he would sign Hughes if he thinks Hughes can help the Canucks win hockey games and be on the team next season. If the Canucks are out of it, he might not, especially not play him the 10 games.
To me, the difference seems to be that when Gillis was making sacrifices to win games, he was putting together a team perennially competing for a championship... not... a team perennially competing for 5th overall draft position
How do you know Benning is in danger of being fired? Even if he is how do you know this would affect his decision. He has done it consistently since arrival with some marginal college signings. I am going to a number of the remaining games and would like to see entertaining games that might mean something. So yes from my position sitting a more entertaining likely better player for a theoretical benefit is bush league. There is an argument that bringing a player up early may lead to a lower second contract than if he had three full years to prove his worth. One could argue Boeser's contract will be less after this year than it would be after the 2020 year. So yes you save money for one year but it may lead to multi years of paying more. In the end the affect on team short term and long term is unknown. You just need to do what you think is best for his development.No, bush league is mismanaging your assets to such a degree that you can't afford to sign your good young players in the 2021 off-season because you've committed too much cap-space to 4th liners and decided to burn a bunch of ELC years off your young prospects. Considering this GM just mismanaged himself into being forced to play a teenage goalie from the OHL with not a single professional game of experience, with no goalie on the bench to back him up, I have absolutely no faith that they're actually *planning* for anything. Planning is clearly not an area of strength.
Bush league is having no good young players contributing on ELCs because you had no patience. Bush league is being fined for tampering because you can't keep your mouth shut about PK Subban in a TV interview. Bush league is offer-sheeting Ryan O'Reily to a 2-year, $10 million contract and not being aware that he would have to clear waivers first (enjoying the Weisbrod era?). Detail-oriented, careful planning is the exact opposite of Bush League. On the contrary, it's how championship teams are built.
Benning is trying to save his job and doesn't care about the future. He knows he'll be gone before he can reap the rewards if he doesn't burn that ELC year now. If you can't see that then you're blind. He's hoping Hughes can pull a rabbit out of his hat and distract everyone from the horrible D-core he's constructed. His head is on the chopping block, and every managerial embarrassment brings the axe closer.
Lol, who gives a **** about the team Gillis inherited at this point.
Burning a year off ELCs is pretty standard stuff these days. That's not even considering the point Hughes will make us better immediately, even if just from an entertainment/interest pov. No GM is going to squabble over a year of an ELC with a prospect as important to the future of the organization as Hughes is. Cept maybe Brian Burke.
It is also showing a player that you want them to be happy, and treat them right. The teams credibility would be on the line with the family. Would anyone be happy if he said "No games this year, then I go back to Mich"? give him the experience with the team, play him some, and if he earns a spot give it to him. If not, tell him why.
The expense is trivial for Aquaman, and it will put butts in the seats. How many people watched games this year to see Petey, not the Canucks?
After the first 20 years of misery, the Canucks got Bure, then 94 SC run, then the WCE, then the Sedins and a real shot at winning the SC. Now after 5 miserable years we have Boeser, Horvat, Markstrom and a probable Calder winning EP. Adding in Hughes wouldn't hurt.
I could care less if we burn a year of Hughes ELC at this point. If he becomes good enough, quick enough, so that this significantly alters our cap space in two years then I think that’s a good problem to have.
I am concerned about the expansion draft, we will likely lose a good player and if we could have avoided protecting Hughes that would be my preference.
There is absolutely no way Quinn Hughes should play 10 games this year. If he does then we will have to protect him in the expansion draft.
But if we protect him, we might lose Guds if he gets exposed!There is absolutely no way Quinn Hughes should play 10 games this year. If he does then we will have to protect him in the expansion draft.
He knowthe chance is he won’t be here if we don’t make the playoffs next seasonAnyone else get the feeling Benning hasn't even considered the expansion draft when it comes to Hughes?
No I don't think so and at this point you have to believe he's Teflon Jim to Aquaman.He knowthe chance is he won’t be here if we don’t make the playoffs next season
Go Wolverines Go.
@bobbyb2009 You were correct in our back-and-forth awhile ago on the usage of the word "year" in the CBA as it related to Hughes' age situation if he signs a standard player contract for this season. No ELC slide. Plus, any Utica games played under a standard player contract would count toward the 10 games for earning a year of professional experience toward RFA status.
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How did you confirm this?
Anyone else get the feeling Benning hasn't even considered the expansion draft when it comes to Hughes?
Honestly at this point why bother. Save the extra ELC year.
Plus we don’t have to protect him at the expansion draft.Honestly at this point why bother. Save the extra ELC year.