McKenzie: Puljujarvi has requested a trade [Part 3]

[Ditch Donkey]

Oilers could only wish

 

[Filthy Dangles]

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[DistantThunderRep]

See?

The reason is your team cannot keep everyone. Just like Chicago couldn’t and why Toronto won’t be able to. Blame the cap. And with Edmonton’s history of toxicity, and Puljujarvi’s undeniable physical talents, he’s a viable candidate to swap some of your salary(which your team will inevitably have to do) for, in hopes of hitting a homer.

So you think a 20-20 PK'ing Centre who as a rookie was 11th in Selke votes, who is still on an ELC, is worth a player who can't crack the oilers lineup? If we were comparing potential that's one thing, but we are trading a proven player. There would be 29 other teams with better offers than Pulujarvi.

 

[Riptide]

We don’t need lots of choice. We have one choice. Bury the dumbass in Europe and never trade him. Done deal.

And while that's a legitimate option, it's one that won't last forever. And the longer this goes on the less and less Edmonton will receive for him.

 

[TheNumber4]

And while that's a legitimate option, it's one that won't last forever. And the longer this goes on the less and less Edmonton will receive for him.

No one in Edmonton cares if the measly 3rd round pick we’d get for him whittles down to a 6th round pick.

Best and only option: Bury his ass in the Euros. Let it be known to the hockey world that if we spend a draft pick on you, you either put your head down and work to earn that NHL job or you can go throw your career away. The value of setting this precedent is higher than any bullshit return fans of OTHER teams keep trying to convince us we need.

 

[TheNumber4]

Exactly — what on earth was he doing in NA three years ago? Mind boggling.

What was Pettersson doing in the NHL? Succeeding and being a good hockey player. Something we gave Pulju the chance to achieve as well with his equally high draft pedigree and Pulju failed.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

Nobody's going to trade for him at this point. Every team has their plans thought out for the coming season already and changing them will only get hate from their fanbases even if they would be beneficial.

I'm still hoping Pulju can make his mind up about the Oilers and play a decent season to make his trade situation better.

 

[Jamin]

No one in Edmonton cares if the measly 3rd round pick we’d get for him whittles down to a 6th round pick.

Best and only option: Bury his ass in the Euros. Let it be known to the hockey world that if we spend a draft pick on you, you either put your head down and work to earn that NHL job or you can go throw your career away. The value of setting this precedent is higher than any bull**** return fans of OTHER teams keep trying to convince us we need.

It gets said 5 times a page for like 100 pages. I dont know if its burrying head in the sand or bad reading comprehension by HF. Everyone just keeps repeating take my bad offer and if you dont his value will go even lower. You already explained why that isnt a fear of any Oiler fan yet it keeps getting repeated

 

[heretik27]

I haven't really been actively reading the forums for a while so maybe it's common knowledge. I still remember everyone being a bit surprised by CBJ taking PLD with their 3rd OA pick instead of Puljujarvi. Has anything come out to suggest Jarmo had already known there might be issues with Jesse's development? Is there such a thing as an Oilers curse? I really don't know enough about him to understand why he's failing to meet draft expectations. Was he just over hyped?

 

[Szechwan]

Nobody's going to trade for him at this point. Every team has their plans thought out for the coming season already and changing them will only get hate from their fanbases even if they would be beneficial.

I'm still hoping Pulju can make his mind up about the Oilers and play a decent season to make his trade situation better.

Injuries happen every camp to every team. To say the NHL's rosters are set is silly. I agree it doesn't appear to be in anyone's immediate plans though.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

Injuries happen every camp to every team. To say the NHL's rosters are set is silly.

The spots Puljujärvi is trying to make are shut for every team, no single team gets a player for depth who supposedly can play top 6 minutes and actually be a top 6er at this point in the offseason.

If you are still hunting for actual top 6ers at this point as a GM you're either rebuilding or failing as a GM if you don't have such top 6ers already imo. The market is done for UFA's and you're not getting RFA's. Pulju won't be worth anything on bottom 6 lines and plausibly on the top 6 as well. EDM is one of the best shots out there.

 

[TheNumber4]

I haven't really been actively reading the forums for a while so maybe it's common knowledge. I still remember everyone being a bit surprised by CBJ taking PLD with their 3rd OA pick instead of Puljujarvi. Has anything come out to suggest Jarmo had already known there might be issues with Jesse's development? Is there such a thing as an Oilers curse? I really don't know enough about him to understand why he's failing to meet draft expectations. Was he just over hyped?

Jaarmo speaks fluent Finnish. Was able to have a real conversation with Jesse. What this means is that Jaarmo obviously was able to identify some red flags with jesse that a team like the Oilers who probably didn’t even use a translator were not able to.

My theory on the red flags: some combination of stupidity, entitlement, and immaturity was identified.

 

[ijuka]

What was Pettersson doing in the NHL? Succeeding and being a good hockey player. Something we gave Pulju the chance to achieve as well with his equally high draft pedigree and Pulju failed.

Bad example, considering Pettersson was playing in SHL after getting drafted.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

And while that's a legitimate option, it's one that won't last forever. And the longer this goes on the less and less Edmonton will receive for him.

If he goes to Finland he will never wants to come back to EDM. At least you will have his rights

 

[Skolman]

If he goes to Finland he will never wants to come back to EDM. At least you will have his rights

So you don't think money will ever be a factor?

 

[Qward]

The Oilers would gladly accept.

Okay, you call Ken Holland, I will call Melnyk...I mean Dorion. Dorion "makes all the hockey decisions"...

 

[ThePhoenixx]

If he goes to Finland he will never wants to come back to EDM. At least you will have his rights

Isn't that immaturity in a nutshell?

"If you don't give me what I want I'm going to run away and never come back. Then you'll be sorry."

That's the template for a kid acting out.

 

[heretik27]

Jaarmo speaks fluent Finnish. Was able to have a real conversation with Jesse. What this means is that Jaarmo obviously was able to identify some red flags with jesse that a team like the Oilers who probably didn’t even use a translator were not able to.

My theory on the red flags: some combination of stupidity, entitlement, and immaturity was identified.

I suppose that's possible, that he picked up on some immaturity. I feel like it's a bit unlikely Edmonton would have drafted him without speaking to him lol

 

[Unspecified]

The fact that a thread featuring part 3 of Puljujarvi discussions is still active says a whole lot about how boring this time of year is.

 

[Riptide]

No one in Edmonton cares if the measly 3rd round pick we’d get for him whittles down to a 6th round pick.

Best and only option: Bury his ass in the Euros. Let it be known to the hockey world that if we spend a draft pick on you, you either put your head down and work to earn that NHL job or you can go throw your career away. The value of setting this precedent is higher than any bull**** return fans of OTHER teams keep trying to convince us we need.

And all that would do would be to force these kids not to sign with Edmonton, delay their NHL future by a couple of seasons and then they'd re-enter the draft. If Edmonton drafted them again, then they can either choose to sign with them, or wait another 2 years and become a UFA (same time frame but a more pain in the ass situation to what the NCAA kids go through). Edmonton doesn't have nearly the control over these kids as you think they do.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

So you don't think money will ever be a factor?

he doesnt want to play in Edmonton, perdiod. He will get his money anywhere else, Edmonton is just not an option anymore for him, he is alienated IMO.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Isn't that immaturity in a nutshell?

"If you don't give me what I want I'm going to run away and never come back. Then you'll be sorry."

That's the template for a kid acting out.

yes it is, I agree with you. Pulju is pretty much done in EDM, Blame him and his attitude.

do EDM fans think the Org could have done better with him too ? probably

 

[McDNicks17]

And all that would do would be to force these kids not to sign with Edmonton, delay their NHL future by a couple of seasons and then they'd re-enter the draft. If Edmonton drafted them again, then they can either choose to sign with them, or wait another 2 years and become a UFA (same time frame but a more pain in the ass situation to what the NCAA kids go through). Edmonton doesn't have nearly the control over these kids as you think they do.

You make it sound like every player agrees with Pulju's "mistreatment".

From basically everything we've heard, the players all agree with the organization on this.

 

[Skolman]

What's weird about this whole situation is the timing.

Lucic apparently treated him like garbage, Lucic got traded.

He and the coaching staff/management didn't get along apparently, the Oilers brought in new Coaching/Management.

I'm not sure what JP's issue with Edmonton is. Edmonton is literally the only team in the league where he is probably a top-6 winger.

I used to like the kid, but man the entitled SOB he has turned into really brought me down on him.

 

[BlackEye from Xhekaj]

Jaarmo speaks fluent Finnish. Was able to have a real conversation with Jesse. What this means is that Jaarmo obviously was able to identify some red flags with jesse that a team like the Oilers who probably didn’t even use a translator were not able to.

My theory on the red flags: some combination of stupidity, entitlement, and immaturity was identified.

Ooooor... Jaarmo wanted a future 1C in PLD after moving Johansen. Hmmm... could that be possible?!