GDT: PS Game #6| FLYERS at NY Rangers |Mon., Sep. 29, 2014| 7:00 p.m. ET

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS (2-2-1, 0-2-0 away ) vs. NEW YORK RANGERS (1-1-0, 0-1-0 home ) ​

BROADCAST INFORMATION​

• Television: NHLN-US, MSG
• Webcasts: When additional links are located, anyone can place them in this GDT. No assurances here:
  1. http://atdee.net/index.html
  2. http://www.firstrowsports.eu/sport/ice-hockey.html
  3. http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline=icehockey
  4. http://forum.wiziwig.eu/forums/29-NHL-Icehockey
• Flyers' Radio: 97.5 ( http://www.975thefanatic.com/listen-live/index.aspx )

GAME PREVIEW, NOTES and STATISTICS​

• Preview: http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=732218&navid=DL|PHI|home
• Stats and Notes: [2014 preseason standings] http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=100478#&navid=nav-stn-pre
• NHL Stats: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm
• Flyers' Stats: http://flyers.nhl.com/club/stats.htm
• Rangers' Stats: http://rangers.nhl.com/club/stats.htm

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS​

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS' ROSTER (updated September 26)​

Forwards

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Pos. | Place of Birth | Date of Birth | 2013-14 Team/League
42| Akeson, Jason| 5'10"|190|R|Ottawa, Ontario|6/3/90|Phantoms AHL; FLYERS NHL
64| Alderson, Brandon |6'4" |195| R| Oakville, Ontario| 1/22/92| Phantoms AHL
73 | Aube-Kubel, Nicholas | 5'11" |190| R| Slave Lake, Alberta |5/10/96 |Val-d'Or QMJHL
78|Bellemare, Pierre-Edouard|5'11"|196|R|Paris, France|3/6/85|Skelleftea AIK SHL
52| Cousins, Nick |5'11" |170| C |Belleville, Ontario |7/20/93 |Phantoms AHL
14| Couturier, Sean |6'3"| 197| C| Phoenix, AZ| 12/7/92| FLYERS NHL
75| Fazleev, Radel | 6'0" |179| C |Kzan, Russia| 1/7/96 |Calgary WHL
77 | Fyten, Austin |6'2" |200 |L| Sundre, Alberta |5/3/91| Oklahoma City AHL; Idaho ECHL
28 |Giroux, Claude |5'11" |172 |C |Hearst, Ontario |1/12/88| FLYERS NHL
34 | Gordon, Andrew |6'0" |199 |R| Halifax, Nova Scotia |12/13/85 |St. John's AHL
63 | Goumas, Kevin |5'10" |165 |C |Lake Worth, FL| 11/19/91 |New Hampshire H-East; Phantoms AHL
56 |Goulbourne, Tyrell|6'0" |184 |L| Edmonton, Alberta |1/26/94| Kelowna WHL
68 | Hatch, Matt | 5'11"| 185| L |Massena, NY |5/22/90 |Union NCAA
61 | Hextall, Brett |5'10" |190 |R |Philadelphia, PA |4/2/88 |Portland AHL
80 | Jevpalovs, Nikita |6'1" |198| R| Riga, Latvia| 9/9/94 |Blainville-Boisbriand QMJHL
66 | Johnston, Andrew |6'1" |178| L| Saskatoon, Saskatchewan| 7/6/91| Phantoms AHL; Orlando ECHL
41 |Jones, Blair | 6'2"| 215| C| Central Butte, Saskatchewan| 9/27/86| Abbotsford AHL; Calgary NHL
49 |Laughton, Scott| 6'1" |190 |C |Oakville, Ontario| 5/30/94 |Oshawa OHL
40 |Lecavalier, Vincent |6'4" |215| C |Ile Bizard, Quebec| 4/21/80| FLYERS NHL
58 | Leier, Taylor | 5'11"|177 |L| Saskatoon, Saskatchewan |2/15/94 |Portland WHL
79| Marcotte, Louick | 6'1" |194| L| Longueuil, Quebec |1/7/94 |Val-d'Or QMJHL
57 | Mathers, Derek | 6'2"| 226 |R |Strathroy, Ontario |8/4/93 |Phantoms AHL
81| Noebels, Marcel | 6'3" |195| L| Tonisvorst, Germany |3/14/92| Phantoms AHL
46 | Powe, Darroll |5'11" |212 |C |Saskatoon, Saskatchewan |6/22/85| Hartford AHL; NY Rangers NHL
12 |Raffl, Michael|6'0" |195| R| Villah, Austria| 12/1/88 |FLYERS NHL
24 |Read, Matt | 5'10" |185 |L| Ilderton, Ontario| 6/14/86| FLYERS NHL
36 |Rinaldo, Zac | 5'11" |169| C| Mississauga, Ontario| 6/15/90 |FLYERS NHL
37 |Rosehill, Jay |6'3" |215 |L |Olds, Alberta| 7/16/85| FLYERS NHL
10 |Schenn, Brayden |6'1" |190| C |Saskatoon, Saskatchewan |8/22/91| FLYERS NHL
17 |Simmonds, Wayne | 6'2"| 183| R| Scarborough, Ontario| 8/26/88| FLYERS NHL
45 |Stortini, Zack|6'4"| 232| R| Elliot Lake, Ontario| 9/11/85| Norfolk AHL
51 | Straka, Petr | 6'0" |194 |R |Plzen, Czech Republic| 6/15/92| Phantoms AHL
18 |Umberger, R.J.|6'2" |214| C| Pittsburgh, PA |5/3/82| Columbus NHL
76 |VandeVelde, Chris | 6'2" |190 |C |Moorhead, MN |3/15/87 |Phantoms AHL; FLYERS NHL
93| Voracek, Jakub |6'2" |214| R| Kladno, Czech Republic| 8/15/89 |FLYERS NHL
25 |White, Ryan |6'0" |193 |C |Brandon, Manitoba |3/17/88 |Montreal NHL

Defensemen

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Pos. | Place of Birth | Date of Birth | 2013-14 Team/League
39| Alt, Mark |6'3" |205| D |Kansas City, MO |10/18/91 |Phantoms AHL
5 |Coburn, Braydon |6'5"|220|D| Shaunavon, Saskatchewan |2/27/85| FLYERS NHL
15| Del Zotto, Michael |6'0" |195 |D |Stouffville, Ontario |6/24/90| NY Rangers NHL; Nashville NHL
48 | Delisle, Steven | 6'6"| 209 |D |Levis, Quebec| 7/30/90| Phantoms AHL
82| Flemming, Brett |5'11" |184 |D |Regina, Saskatchewan| 2/26/91| Reading ECHL; Hershey AHL
53| Gostisbehere, Shayne|5'11" |170| D |Pembroke Pines, FL |4/20/93| Union ECAC; Adirondack AHL
8| Grossmann, Nicklas |6'4" |230 |D |Stockholm, Sweden |1/22/85| FLYERS NHL
54 | Hagg, Robert | 6'2" |204| D| Uppsala, Sweden |2/8/95| Modo SHL; Phantoms AHL
62| Konan, Matt| 6'3" |198| D| Tustin, CA |9/3/91 |Phantoms AHL
60 | Lamarche, Maxim |6'3" |218 |D |Laval, Quebec| 7/11/92| Elmira ECHL; Phantoms AHL
38 | Lauridsen, Oliver |6'6" |220 |D |Gentofte, Denmark |3/24/89 |Phantoms AHL
47 |MacDonald, Andrew |6'1" |190 |D |Judique, Nova Scotia| 9/7/86| NY Islanders NHL; FLYERS NHL
43| Manning, Brandon |6'1" |195 |D |Prince George, British Columbia | 6/4/90 |Phantoms AHL
50| Morin, Samuel | 6'7" |210 |D |Lac-Beauport, Quebec| 7/12/95| Rimouski QMJHL
59| Pettersson, Jesper | 5'8" |187 |D |Stockholm, Sweden |7/16/94| Linkoping SHL
20 |Pronger, Chris |6'6" |220 |D |Dryden, Ontario| 10/10/74 |FLYERS NHL
74| Rusk, Beau |6'5" |230 |D |Beaconsfield, Quebec| 4/19/96| Rimouski QMJHL|
71| Sanheim, Travis | 6'3"| 181| D |Elkhorn, Manitoba |3/29/96 |Calgary WHL
22 |Schenn, Luke | 6'2" |229 |D |Saskatoon, Saskatchewan| 11/2/89| FLYERS NHL
55 |Schultz, Nick |6'1" |203| D| Strasbourg, Saskatchewan| 8/25/82|Edmonton NHL; Columbus NHL
32| Streit, Mark |5'11" |191| D| Bern, Switzerland |12/11/77 |FLYERS NHL|
44 |Timonen, Kimmo |5'10" |194 |D |Kuopio, Finland| 3/18/75 |FLYERS NHL

Goalies

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Pos. | Place of Birth | Date of Birth | 2013-14 Team/League
29 |Emery, Ray | 6'2"| 196| G| Hamilton, Ontario| 9/28/82| FLYERS NHL
67| Knapp, Connor |6'5" |215 |G |York, NY| 5/1/90| Greenville ECHL; Florida ECHL; Alaska ECHL; Rochester AHL; Buffalo NHL
35 |Mason, Steve|6'4" |217 |G| Oakville, Ontario| 5/29/88 |FLYERS NHL
70 | Ouellette, Martin |6'1" |160 |G |Saint-Jerome, Quebec |12/30/91| Maine H-East
65| Stolarz, Anthony |6'6" |210| G |Edison, NJ |1/20/94 |London OHL
72 |Zepp, Rob| 6'1" |194 |G |Newmarket, Ontario|9/7/81 |Berlin DEL

Roster Moves:

• Sept. 17 -- Released from NHL Amateur Try-Outs: Nikita Jevpalovs, Louick Marcotte, and Beau Rusk.
• Sept. 24 -- Returned to CHL teams: Nicholas Aube-Kubel [Val D'Or (QMJHL)]; Radel Fazleev [Calgary (WHL)]; Travis Sanheim [Calgary (WHL)].
• Sept. 24 -- Sent to Lehigh Valley (AHL): Alderson, Brandon; Alt, Mark; Cousins, Nick; Delisle, Steven; Flemming, Brett; Fyten, Austin; Goumas, Kevin; Hagg, Robert; Hatch, Matt; Hextall, Brett; Johnston, Andrew; Knapp, Connor; Lamarche, Maxim; Mathers, Derek; Noebels, Marcel; Ouellette, Martin; Pettersson, Jesper; Stolarz, Anthony; Straka, Petr
• Sept. 26 -- Andrew Gordon, Oliver Lauridsen and Brandon Manning were waived for the purpose of assigning them to Lehigh Valley (AHL).
• Sept. 26 -- Taylor Leier and LW Darroll Powe sent to Lehigh Valley (AHL).

FLYERS' POSSIBLE LINEUP
Lines

Left Wing | Center | Right Wing
34 Andrew Gordon | 10 Brayden Schenn| 12 Michael Raffl
41 Blair Jones| 49 Scott Laughton| 58 Taylor Leier
42 Jason Akeson| 78 Pierre-Edouard Bellemare| 36 Zac Rinaldo
76 Chris VandeVelde | 46 Darroll Powe| 45 Zack Stortini

Pairings

Name | Name
47 Andrew MacDonald| 5 Braydon Coburn
53 Shayne Gostisbehere |55 Nick Schultz
39 Mark Alt| 50 Sam Morin

Goalies

Name | Name
35 Steve Mason (starter) | 72 Rob Zepp

FLYERS' INJURIES and SCRATCHES

Player | Status | Description
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare | practiced, could return Mon. or Tue. | lower body
Ray Emery | day-to-day | lower body
Claude Giroux | could play Tuesday night |lower body
Tyrell Goulbourne | unsigned| upper body, during WHL preseason
Matt Konan | can't be sent to AHL while injured | undisclosed injury
Chris Pronger | expected to miss the entire season | post-concussion syndrome
Kimmo Timonen | out indefinitely | blood clots in lungs and right calf
Ryan White| could be out five months from Aug. 27 | left pectoralis muscle surgery

FLYERS' POWER PLAY UNITS

Unit | Name | Name | Name | Name | Name
No. 1|
No. 2|

NEW YORK RANGERS​

RANGERS POSSIBLE LINEUP
Lines

Left Wing | Center | Right Wing
Chris Kreider | Derick Brassard | Mats Zuccarello
Rick Nash | J.T. Miller | Martin St. Louis
Tanner Glass | Kevin Hayes | Jesper Fast
Ryan Haggerty| Chris Mueller |Anthony Duclair

Pairings

Name | Name
Ryan McDonagh|Steven Kampfer
Dan Boyle| Marc Staal
Matt Hunwick|Dylan McIlrath

Goalies

Name | Name
Henrik Lundqvist (scheduled to play full game) |Jason Missiaen (reserve)

RANGERS' INJURIES and SCRATCHES

Player | Status | Description
Matthew Lombardi | will not play Mon. or Tue. | groin
Ryan Malone | will not play Mon. or Tue. | hip flexor
Cam Talbot | not expected to play| scheduled to play full game Tuesday
Derek Stepan | out 4-to-6 weeks from Sept. 26| non-displaced fractured fibula

RANGERS' POWER PLAY UNITS

Unit | Name | Name | Name | Name | Name
No. 1| | | | |
No. 2| | | | |

RANGERS' ROSTER​

Forwards

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Date of Birth | Age | Place of Birth
71 | Chris Bourque | 5' 8"| 174 |Jan 29, 1986| 28| Boston, MA, USA
16| Derick Brassard| 6' 1" |202| Sep 22, 1987| 27 |Hull, QC, CAN
63 |Anthony Duclair | 5' 11" |185 |Aug 26, 1995| 19| Pointe-Claire, QC, CAN
91| Jesper Fast |6' 0"| 185| Dec 2, 1991 |22| Nassjo, SWE
15| Tanner Glass | 6' 1"| 210| Nov 29, 1983 |30| Regina, SK, CAN
62| Carl Hagelin | 5' 11"| 186 |Aug 23, 1988| 26 |Sodertalje, SWE
39| Ryan Haggerty| 6' 0"| 200| Mar 4, 1993| 21| Stamford, CT, USA
59| Kevin Hayes | 6' 5"| 225 |May 8, 1992 |22 |Boston, MA, USA
46 | Marek Hrivik | 6' 2" |200 |Aug 28, 1991 |23| Cadca, SVK
20| Chris Kreider | 6' 3"| 226| Apr 30, 1991 |23 |Boxford, MA, USA
48 |Oscar Lindberg | 6' 1" |190 |Oct 29, 1991 |22 |Skellefteå, SWE
45| Matthew Lombardi | 5' 11" |195| Mar 18, 1982 |32| Montreal, QC, CAN
24| Ryan Malone | 6' 4" |224| Dec 1, 1979 |34| Pittsburgh, PA, USA
10| J.T. Miller |6' 1" |205| Mar 14, 1993 |21 |East Palestine, OH, USA
28| Dominic Moore| 6' 0" |192| Aug 3, 1980| 34| Thornhill, ON, CAN
86| Chris Mueller | 5' 11" |210 |Mar 6, 1986 |28| West Seneca, NY, USA
61| Rick Nash |6' 4" |213 |Jun 16, 1984| 30 |Brampton, ON, CAN
26 | Martin St. Louis| 5' 8"| 180| Jun 18, 1975 |39| Laval, QC, CAN
12 | Lee Stempniak | 5' 11"| 196 |Feb 4, 1983| 31| West Seneca, NY, USA
21 |Derek Stepan |6' 0" |196| Jun 18, 1990| 24| Hastings, MN, USA
36 |Mats Zuccarello | 5' 7" |179 |Sep 1, 1987| 27| Oslo, NOR

Defensemen

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Date of Birth | Age | Place of Birth
87 | Mat Bodie |6' 0" |175 |Mar 7, 1990 |24 |East St. Paul, MB, CAN
22 | Dan Boyle | 5' 11" |190 |Jul 12, 1976 |38| Ottawa, ON, CAN
5 |Dan Girardi "A"| 6' 1"| 203| Apr 29, 1984 |30| Welland, ON, CAN
44 | Matt Hunwick | 5' 11"| 190 |May 21, 1985 |29| Warren, MI, USA
47 | Steven Kampfer| 5' 11"| 192| Sep 24, 1988 |26| Ann Arbor, MI, USA
8 |Kevin Klein |6' 1" |199| Dec 13, 1984| 29| Kitchener, ON, CAN
4 |Michael Kostka | 6' 1"| 210 |Nov 28, 1985 |28| Etobicoke, ON, CAN
27 | Ryan McDonagh| 6' 1"| 213| Jun 13, 1989| 25| St. Paul, MN, USA
42 | Dylan McIlrath | 6' 5"| 230 |Apr 20, 1992 |22| Winnipeg, MB, CAN
17 |John Moore | 6' 3" |202 |Nov 19, 1990| 23 |Winnetka, IL, USA
18 | Marc Staal "A"| 6' 4" |207 |Jan 13, 1987| 27 |Thunder Bay, ON, CAN

Goalies

No. | Player | Height | Weight | Date of Birth | Age | Place of Birth
40 |Cedrick Desjardins | 6' 0"| 192 |Sep 30, 1985 |28 |Edmundston, NB, CAN
30 |Henrik Lundqvist | 6' 1" |188 |Mar 2, 1982 |32| Are, SWE
31 |Jason Missiaen | 6' 8" |206 |Apr 25, 1990| 24| Chatham, ON, CAN
33 |Cam Talbot | 6' 3" |205 |Jul 5, 1987| 27 |Caledonia, ON, CAN

FLYERS vs. RANGERS SERIES HISTORY​

Regular Season Record

Opponent | W-L-T-OTL | Home | Away
New York Rangers| 118-114-37-7 |67-53-14-4| 51-61-23-3

Playoffs Record

Opponent | Series | W-L | Home | Away
New York Rangers |6-5 |30-24|19-11| 11-13

Regular Season Streaks (unless noted)

Opponent | W-L-OTL | Home | Away
New York Rangers|3-2-0 in the last 5 |3-0-0 in the last 3|0-8-0 in the last 8

• Link to series history (prior GDT) from 1967 to the present: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1646453

FLYERS vs. RANGERS 2014-15 SCHEDULE​

Schedule ( http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyseason.htm?team=PHI )

Date | Game | Time (ET) | Television (could change)
Wed Nov 19, 2014|Philadelphia at NY Rangers|8:00 PM ET|NBCSN, TVA Sports, SN1
Fri Nov 28, 2014 | NY Rangers at Philadelphia |1:00 PM ET| NBC, SN
Sat Nov 29, 2014 | Philadelphia at NY Rangers |1:00 PM ET| CSN-PH, MSG
Sat Feb 28, 2015 | NY Rangers at Philadelphia |8:00 PM ET| NBC, HNIC

PHILADELPHIA FLYERS' 2014 PRESEASON SCHEDULE​

Date | Game | Arena | Time (ET) | Television Broadcast | Radio Broadcast
Monday, Sept. 22|Washington 4 at Flyers' split 5| Wells Fargo Center |7:00 p.m. |CSN-DC,TCN-PH | None
Monday, Sept. 22|Toronto 3 at Flyers' split 2 (SO)|Budweiser Gardens (London, ON)|7:00 p.m. |Leafs' TV | 97.5
Tuesday, Sept. 23|Flyers 0 at Toronto 4 | Air Canada Centre| 7:30 p.m. | NHLN-US, TSN4 | 97.5
Thursday, Sept 25| New Jersey 0 at Flyers 4| Wells Fargo Center |7:00 p.m. |MSG PLUS, TCN-PH| 97.5
Sunday, Sept 28| Flyers 1 at New Jersey 3| Prudential Center|7:00 p.m. |None | 97.5
Monday, Sept 29| Flyers at NY Rangers |Madison Square Garden |7:00 p.m. |NHLN-US, MSG | 97.5
Tuesday, Sept. 30| NY Rangers at Flyers | Wells Fargo Center| 7:00 p.m.| NHLN-US, MSG, TCN-PH | 97.5
Thursday, Oct. 2|Flyers at Washington| Verizon Center |7:00 p.m. |NHLN-US, CSN-DC, CSN-PH| 97.5

MEDIA COVERAGE​

Name | Link

Bucks County Courier Times​

| http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/flyers/

Wayne Fish's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/waynefish1

Comcast Sports Philadelphia​

| http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/flyers

Tim Panaccio's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN

Courier-Post of South Jersey​

| http://www.courierpostonline.com/sports/flyers

Dave Isaac's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/davegisaac

Delaware County Times​

| http://www.delcotimes.com/flyers

Rob Parent's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/reluctantSE

HockeyBuzz.com ​

| http://www.hockeybuzz.com/team/Philadelphia-Flyers

Bill Meltzer's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/billmeltzer

Newark Star-Ledger​

| http://www.nj.com/flyers/

Randy Miller's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/RandyJMiller

Philadelphia Daily News​

| http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/

Blog​

| http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/

Frank Seravalli's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/DNFlyers

Philadelphia Inquirer​

| http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/

Blog​

| http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inqflyersreport/

Sam Carchidi's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/broadstbull

Bergen Record​

| http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/

Andrew Gross' Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/AGrossRecord

BlueShirts United​

| http://blueshirtsunited.com/

Jim Cerny's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/JimCerny

ESPN New York​

| http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/hockey/category/_/name/new-york-rangers

Katie Strang's Twitter ​

| https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN

Newark Star-Ledger​

| http://www.nj.com/rangers/

New York Daily News ​

| http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/rangers/

Pat Leonard's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN

New York Post ​

| http://www.nypost.com/sports/rangers/rangers.htm

Larry Brooks' Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/nyp_brooksie

New York Times ​

| http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/hockey/index.html

Jeff Klein's Twitter​

| https://twitter.com/jzedklein

Newsday ​

| http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blue-notes-1.811976

Steve Zipay's Twitter​

| http://twitter.com/stevezipay

SportsNet New York​

| http://snyrangersblog.com/

GAME DAY THREAD MUSIC​

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[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Until the next series of updates.

Monday's practice info from the Flyers:

Practice at 11am today at @FlyersSkateZone Voorhees before traveling to NYC for tonight’s #NHLPreseason game.

Rangers info is updated.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

How about we don't suck and have the game on TV this time? Thank you .

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

whats up with emery? is lower body day to day all we know?

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

whats up with emery? is lower body day to day all we know?

He practiced today (Sunday). Supposedly whatever the injury, it isn't regarded as serious.

 

[chupanibre]

whats up with emery? is lower body day to day all we know?

They found traces of cement in his hips

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

They found traces of cement in his hips

After that zinger, he'll need a stay over in the burn ward too!

 

[Striiker]

I don't know what's worse, Rinaldo for 3 years or Emery for 1 year.

 

[The Rage Kage]

I can see why Hextall brought Emery back, it's not exactly a year where we're going all or nothing, whatever happens, happens. Might as well keep mase happy as possible with a friend backing him up. Next year they can find someone else

 

[flyershockey]

I can see why Hextall brought Emery back, it's not exactly a year where we're going all or nothing, whatever happens, happens. Might as well keep mase happy as possible with a friend backing him up. Next year they can find someone else

I'm sure you'll feel the same way if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points because their backup is sub-NHL quality. There are better goalies that are about to be put on waivers, yet here we are with Emery only a potential play away from being our starter.

 

[Danko]

Although Emery hasnt had the opportunity to play this preseason, what he showed in that first game wasnt great. In the Playoffs and towards the end of last season his game just looked awful and it seems as if he was right back in the same form.

Hopefully he gets healthier and can show that he can still make saves.

Although on the other hand, I really do like what I have seen from Zepp and judging off the beat writers and comments from others it seems that he has been playing great.

I would really like to see more of him.

 

[FlyTimmo]

It would be cool if NYR played Mat Bodie and Ghost is in the lineup for Philly.

 

[The Rage Kage]

I'm sure you'll feel the same way if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points because their backup is sub-NHL quality. There are better goalies that are about to be put on waivers, yet here we are with Emery only a potential play away from being our starter.

I will. This isn't our year, might as well get a good pick in a deep draft and come back strong next year. We aren't ready to contend so there's not much point to go out and spend on a backup. And I still think we make the playoffs, I just don't see it as a must.

 

[Stasis]

Looks like we're running with McIlrath, according to Cerny at Blueshirtsunited.

Is Simmonds playing?

Also, Duclair-Mueller-Haggerty will be the third, with Glass-Hayes-Fast being 4th. Not that it matters much, just saying.

 

[dats81]

I don't know what's worse, Rinaldo for 3 years or Emery for 1 year.

You are an optimist thinking we could get rid of Rinaldo after those 3 years... he's going to be around forever.

 

[Curufinwe]

I can see why Hextall brought Emery back, it's not exactly a year where we're going all or nothing, whatever happens, happens. Might as well keep mase happy as possible with a friend backing him up. Next year they can find someone else

I would have gone after Greiss. Montoya I think was destined for Florida, but maybe Greiss could have been swayed by some extra cash.

 

[Stasis]

I would have gone after Greiss. Montoya I think was destined for Florida, but maybe Greiss could have been swayed by some extra cash.

Hi you!

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I'm sure you'll feel the same way if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points because their backup is sub-NHL quality. There are better goalies that are about to be put on waivers, yet here we are with Emery only a potential play away from being our starter.

Eh, if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points, I don't think the blame will be pointed at Emery (well, it probably will but shouldn't be). Obviously, having a better backup would presumably get this team more points, but the same could be said about any number of positions over an 82 game season. If the cutoff is 96 points and they get 92, you could probably point 100 different things that could have changed the outcome of two games besides Emery (bad calls, missteps by Mason, missteps by the Defense, poor offensive performances in some games, etc). Not to mention that while I'm sure Emery will have his bad games, he'll also have good games where maybe the team wouldn't have won if there was another goalie in net. I know people like to think that if there is a better goalie in net he would get every save that the lesser goalie would have (and more), but it doesn't really work that way. Again, that doesn't mean that having a better backup wouldn't necessarily get us more points, but in the 82 games season, if we miss the playoffs by a handful of points (or a ton of points), there will be more than just Ray Emery at fault. He'll get some of the blame for sure, and from the folks around here he will probably be the #1 reason, but there are close games throughout the course of the season that can go a number of different ways for a number of different reasons. As I have discussed ad nauseum on here, one player can rarely make the difference in a hockey game, playoff series, and certainly season.

 

[flyershockey]

Eh, if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points, I don't think the blame will be pointed at Emery (well, it probably will but shouldn't be). Obviously, having a better backup would presumably get this team more points, but the same could be said about any number of positions over an 82 game season. If the cutoff is 96 points and they get 92, you could probably point 100 different things that could have changed the outcome of two games besides Emery (bad calls, missteps by Mason, missteps by the Defense, poor offensive performances in some games, etc). Not to mention that while I'm sure Emery will have his bad games, he'll also have good games where maybe the team wouldn't have won if there was another goalie in net. I know people like to think that if there is a better goalie in net he would get every save that the lesser goalie would have (and more), but it doesn't really work that way. Again, that doesn't mean that having a better backup wouldn't necessarily get us more points, but in the 82 games season, if we miss the playoffs by a handful of points (or a ton of points), there will be more than just Ray Emery at fault. He'll get some of the blame for sure, and from the folks around here he will probably be the #1 reason, but there are close games throughout the course of the season that can go a number of different ways for a number of different reasons. As I have discussed ad nauseum on here, one player can rarely make the difference in a hockey game, playoff series, and certainly season.

A better backup leads to more wins, full stop. You can justify it in your mind until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't make it true. If there's one spot on the ice that can absolutely win or lose a game for a team, it's the goaltender.

 

[NYR Viper]

Any confirmed lineup?

 

[Random Forest]

Eh, if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points, I don't think the blame will be pointed at Emery (well, it probably will but shouldn't be). Obviously, having a better backup would presumably get this team more points, but the same could be said about any number of positions over an 82 game season. If the cutoff is 96 points and they get 92, you could probably point 100 different things that could have changed the outcome of two games besides Emery (bad calls, missteps by Mason, missteps by the Defense, poor offensive performances in some games, etc). Not to mention that while I'm sure Emery will have his bad games, he'll also have good games where maybe the team wouldn't have won if there was another goalie in net. I know people like to think that if there is a better goalie in net he would get every save that the lesser goalie would have (and more), but it doesn't really work that way. Again, that doesn't mean that having a better backup wouldn't necessarily get us more points, but in the 82 games season, if we miss the playoffs by a handful of points (or a ton of points), there will be more than just Ray Emery at fault. He'll get some of the blame for sure, and from the folks around here he will probably be the #1 reason, but there are close games throughout the course of the season that can go a number of different ways for a number of different reasons. As I have discussed ad nauseum on here, one player can rarely make the difference in a hockey game, playoff series, and certainly season.

Goaltending is the variable with the most direct impact on a hockey game. Yeah, there are countless other reasons for missing the playoffs, but if my goal is to maximize the amount of points by the end of the season, improving the goaltending variable is the single best way to ensure this.

I could change other variables, but the change in performance is MUCH less well-defined than changing the goaltending variable.

Signing a better backup was perhaps the single simplest way to pick up a couple extra points in the standings. I know you get your jollies from disagreeing with the consensus, but there isn't anything to argue about here.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Eh, if the Flyers miss the playoffs by a handful of points, I don't think the blame will be pointed at Emery (well, it probably will but shouldn't be). Obviously, having a better backup would presumably get this team more points, but the same could be said about any number of positions over an 82 game season. If the cutoff is 96 points and they get 92, you could probably point 100 different things that could have changed the outcome of two games besides Emery (bad calls, missteps by Mason, missteps by the Defense, poor offensive performances in some games, etc). Not to mention that while I'm sure Emery will have his bad games, he'll also have good games where maybe the team wouldn't have won if there was another goalie in net. I know people like to think that if there is a better goalie in net he would get every save that the lesser goalie would have (and more), but it doesn't really work that way. Again, that doesn't mean that having a better backup wouldn't necessarily get us more points, but in the 82 games season, if we miss the playoffs by a handful of points (or a ton of points), there will be more than just Ray Emery at fault. He'll get some of the blame for sure, and from the folks around here he will probably be the #1 reason, but there are close games throughout the course of the season that can go a number of different ways for a number of different reasons. As I have discussed ad nauseum on here, one player can rarely make the difference in a hockey game, playoff series, and certainly season.

This is one of the most bizarre explanations I've read on here.

Having better players doesn't give you a better chance at making the playoffs? I mean wtf, step back and think about what you are saying for a second.

 

[Embiid]

Not the best move by Hextall...and to add insult to injury the guy has a NLM clause in his contract....NO LATERAL MOVEMENT

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

A better backup leads to more wins, full stop. You can justify it in your mind until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't make it true. If there's one spot on the ice that can absolutely win or lose a game for a team, it's the goaltender.

Absolutely, but so does better defense, offense, power play, penalty kill, etc. Over the course of an 82 game season, there is absolutely no way you can point to one thing and say THIS is why we didn't make the playoffs. Yes, a better backup likely leads to more wins. No argument there. But so does a better defense, no? So too does a better anything else.

Goaltending is the variable with the most direct impact on a hockey game. Yeah, there are countless other reasons for missing the playoffs, but if my goal is to maximize the amount of points by the end of the season, improving the goaltending variable is the single best way to ensure this.

I could change other variables, but the change in performance is MUCH less well-defined than changing the goaltending variable.

Signing a better backup was perhaps the single simplest way to pick up a couple extra points in the standings. I know you get your jollies from disagreeing with the consensus, but there isn't anything to argue about here.

But we know there are flaws in the defense too, don't we? If MDZ or Grossmann or Schenn or whomever sucks as everyone on here says that they do, why wouldn't replacing one of them get us an additional two points or four points? What about replacing Rinaldo...everyone is so convinced that he is such a big detriment to this team, why wouldn't replacing him be just as big (if not bigger) than Ray Emery being in net losing 2-3 games that another goalie would not have lost?

This is one of the most bizarre explanations I've read on here.

Having better players doesn't give you a better chance at making the playoffs? I mean wtf, step back and think about what you are saying for a second.

This is one of the most bizarre explanations I've read on here.

Having Ray Emery in net means the Flyers will only win one game this season. I mean wtf, step back and think about what you are saying for a second...

It helps if you read the post and not just see a somewhat defense of a goalie and immediately assume I am saying something crazy. Two direct quotes from my post...

1. "Obviously, having a better backup would presumably get this team more points..."

2. "Again, that doesn't mean that having a better backup wouldn't necessarily get us more points..."

The end of those quotes say, quite clearly, that are other reasons over the course of an 82 game season that can be pointed to as a reason for not making the playoffs. I am not in any way saying having a better backup wouldn't help or would somehow be a bad thing, all I'm saying is that if this team misses the playoffs by a handful of points, I don't think Ray Emery should get all the blame. Absolutely he gets some of it. No question. But there are countless reasons that factor in. Everyone on this board is obsessed with having a 100% clear-cut reason for everything. It has to be player X, coach Y, or GM Z's fault. Every loss is because defenseman X missed a play, or goalie Y should have made a save. It doesn't work that way. This is an 82 game season. If they miss the playoffs by 2 points or 20 points, there is more than one person to blame. Yes, you put a different goalie in there it gives the team a better shot. But the same thing happens if you improve the defense, the offense, the power play, your luck, whatever else.

But whatever, I guess saying that there are multiple factors, including backup goalie, that would be to blame means the same thing as saying having better players doesn't improve our chances.

 

[SuchySays]

Another season of people complaining about Zac Rinaldo and Ray Emery.

gotta love it.