Rumor: Provorov looking for $10M per season

[Rabid Ranger]

He's better than Ekblad.

Based on what? He has good tools but hasn't put it all together-not by a long shot. Werenski is similar.

 

[780il]

8x8 is pretty fair considering how contracts go nowadays. 10 is flat out bat-shit crazy

 

[ToDavid]

He is not comparable to Ekblad and shouldn't get more than 6M per.

He is, didn't have the best season last year but he was ridiculously good the year before and solid as a rookie.

Even putting arguments about his abilities aside, Philly plays him 25 minutes a night, he knows how important he is to that team. Would not be surprised at all to see him get $8m.

 

[qqaz]

I'm looking for 10 million, too, Ivan. And I have a feeling that neither of us is going to get it.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Think the initial report was wrong. Pronovov will get 10m, rubles. That's 1.5m US in Russia.

Trouba and his silly 8m contract has now set the bar (at least in negotiations)

 

[Dooble08]

So if it's a bridge that works out to something like 3 x $7M or something? Does that make sense? Would the Flyers do that? I would think they'd want to be $5.5-6.5 on a 3 yr deal.

I don't think anybody has interest in a bridge at this point. Provorov doesn't want one, the Flyers don't seem to want one, Flyers fans absolutely don't want one.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Think the initial report was wrong. Pronovov will get 10m, rubles. That's 1.5m US in Russia.

Trouba and his silly 8m contract has now set the bar (at least in negotiations)

lol, yea that's it

 

[Gardner McKay]

Think the initial report was wrong. Pronovov will get 10m, rubles. That's 1.5m US in Russia.

Trouba and his silly 8m contract has now set the bar (at least in negotiations)

Yeah because a guy coming off a 50 point season isn't worth at least $8 million.


Regarding Provorov, this is just a negotiating tactic. He will land somewhere between $7.5-$8.5.

 

[blinds]

I don't think anybody has interest in a bridge at this point. Provorov doesn't want one, the Flyers don't seem to want one, Flyers fans absolutely don't want one.

Yeah, it'd be a mistake to bridge all 3 of Sanheim, Konecny and Provorov. Especially with Patrick's contract coming up. Gotta stagger that shit more.

Most Flyers fans seem to expect 8x8 for Provorov so I feel like it'll end up near 8.5x8. It's always a little more. Although it'll be surprising to see anyone getting a higher AAV than Giroux.

 

[bobholly39]

They really need to change the RFA system in the next CBA. Some of these asks are getting a bit ridiculous. I don't even care which direction they go in - but pick one.

If you want to avoid all these disagreements - open it up a bit more to supply/demand. Make offer sheets less taxing. 4 1sts for guys like Marner/Point? Way too much. 2, or even 3? Maybe it's more plausible. That way if you're not willing to pay your player what they're worth, someone else will and there's no endless posturing and waiting around.

Don't like this path? Do the opposite. Max out the $$ amount RFA's can get. Maybe max it at 8-9M$ or so. This hurts guys like Eichel/McDavid/Matthews who are worth more (would have hurt them before they signed) - so flip side is, give them their UFA status 1-2 years early, to compensate.

 

[SotasicA]

Everytime I watch Provorov play, he sucks. So I sincerely hope the Flyers lock him up for something like 8 x 10m. A nice Wade Redden -like anchor for the franchise would be just swell. Exactly what they need and deserve.

Like, I can imagine it right now. Every night when I go to sleep, I close my eyes and reflect on my day and how things are, and I can just think of how the Philadelphia Flyers are paying $10M for Ivan f***ing Provorov and feel nice and warm inside.

Please make it happen. I've not slept too well lately. I need this to happen.

 

[Sempiternal]

NHLers are paid low compared to other professional sports and we haven't seen much of an increase for the elite superstars over the last 20 years.

The salary cap equation is going to need to change and the cap go up. It should be closer to 100M.

 

[Dooble08]

Everytime I watch Provorov play, he sucks. So I sincerely hope the Flyers lock him up for something like 8 x 10m. A nice Wade Redden -like anchor for the franchise would be just swell. Exactly what they need and deserve.

Like, I can imagine it right now. Every night when I go to sleep, I close my eyes and reflect on my day and how things are, and I can just think of how the Philadelphia Flyers are paying $10M for Ivan ****ing Provorov and feel nice and warm inside.

Please make it happen. I've not slept too well lately. I need this to happen.

Nice so you're a troll who doesn't watch the Flyers a whole lot (especially during the 17-18 season) Good to know.

 

[thefutures]

Shut up and take kevin hayes money Ivan

 

[Starat327]

Everytime I watch Provorov play, he sucks. So I sincerely hope the Flyers lock him up for something like 8 x 10m. A nice Wade Redden -like anchor for the franchise would be just swell. Exactly what they need and deserve.

Like, I can imagine it right now. Every night when I go to sleep, I close my eyes and reflect on my day and how things are, and I can just think of how the Philadelphia Flyers are paying $10M for Ivan ****ing Provorov and feel nice and warm inside.

Please make it happen. I've not slept too well lately. I need this to happen.

You should probably stop watching hockey and pick another sport then, because you clearly dont understand hockey.

Provorov isnt 10M good, but hes closer to 10M good than he is to 'sucking'.

 

[Claypool]

NHLers are paid low compared to other professional sports and we haven't seen much of an increase for the elite superstars over the last 20 years.

The salary cap equation is going to need to change and the cap go up. It should be closer to 100M.

Isn't that the entire point of implementing the salary cap to begin with? Because poor billionaires in small markets couldn't afford to keep their star players anymore?

Salaries are directly tied to hockey revenues. NHL players are paid relative to what the league brings in.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Think the initial report was wrong. Pronovov will get 10m, rubles. That's 1.5m US in Russia.

Trouba and his silly 8m contract has now set the bar (at least in negotiations)

If Provorov's agent brings him up, Philadelphia's FO will simply point out that Trouba's contract bought out 6 UFA years. If you combine the AAV of his holdout unadjusted bridge, his 1 year 3rd contract and 5 years of his New York deal, he got the equivalent of a $6.43 mil x 8 year deal coming out of entry level.

 

[Video Coach]

I don't think anybody has interest in a bridge at this point. Provorov doesn't want one, the Flyers don't seem to want one, Flyers fans absolutely don't want one.

Hmm, that's going to make it tough considering the first-half he had last year. Seems like a dominant young #1 D in the making but that start my give you pause.

So if he's at $10M, do the Flyers go to $8-8.5M on a 7-8 yr term?

 

[Mac Attack]

I drafted this clown in my hockey pool last year and he almost cost me my winnings. No 10 mil for you Provorov!

 

[Starat327]

Hmm, that's going to make it tough considering the first-half he had last year. Seems like a dominant young #1 D in the making but that start my give you pause.

So if he's at $10M, do the Flyers go to $8-8.5M on a 7-8 yr term?

I think a lot of us are hoping for more like 7.5-8 at most. If the difference between bridging him and having him locked up is another .5mil, I pay the .5mil. We cant afford to bridge anymore people.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Gotta start high in a negotiation

sure, but I don't see why they are starting high now. it's the end of August

 

[Dooble08]

Hmm, that's going to make it tough considering the first-half he had last year. Seems like a dominant young #1 D in the making but that start my give you pause.

So if he's at $10M, do the Flyers go to $8-8.5M on a 7-8 yr term?

Like Starat said, most people are hoping for 7.5-8M. I'm thinking he signs for the 8-8.5M like you said.

Giving Provorov a bridge would mess with the Flyers salary cap in a few years when they have Sanheim, Konecny, Hart, Myers, and Patrick to pay. Couturier also would need an extension as well.

 

[Pelle31]

So if it's a bridge that works out to something like 3 x $7M or something? Does that make sense? Would the Flyers do that? I would think they'd want to be $5.5-6.5 on a 3 yr deal.

A report on tsn.ca, looks like Werenski is looking for a 3 year deal around $5 or $6 million per year.

 

[Unspecified]

I guess it is off the KHL then

 

[danielpalfredsson]

It's not that far off. Same thing is happening that happens in so many RFA threads as the cap inflates and people don't adjust their expectations. People say "omg so much" "omg lockout" "thanks larry bateman".

Most other defender who were top pairing on their ELC got 10-11 percent of the cap on a 7-8 year deal. That includes Karlsson, Doughty, Pietrangelo, and Ekblad.

This means that historical market value is probably somewhere around 8.5-9.0 million on a 7-8 year term.

Basic negotiating. They don't ask for 8.75 x 8 years. They ask for 10 x 7. They anchor it to those numbers which allows them to come off the numbers and get what they actually want.