Viro and Wallinder finished the polling tied with 30 votes apiece, so we're going to do a quick, 24 hour runoff vote. The winner will be showered with praise and glory, the loser be taunted and booed until my throat is sore.
As he should...he's a top pair in the Liga and Wallinder isn't even on the big club for the SHL, yet.Viro is running away with this
I don't understand why Wallinder got so many votes to begin with. I've got Sebrango over Wallinder, Wallinder could very well bust.As he should...he's a top pair in the Liga and Wallinder isn't even on the big club for the SHL, yet.
I don't understand why Wallinder got so many votes to begin with. I've got Sebrango over Wallinder, Wallinder could very well bust.
At least I can understand why people have Viro over Sebrango.
It's not like Viro, Wallinder, or Sebrango are putting up tons of points in their respective leagues. None of them are the next Cale Makar, so I'll easily go with the one most likely to make the NHL.give me the guy with a higher chance of busting any day over the guy that will never be anything more than a 3rd pairing guy even if he doesn't
It's not like Viro, Wallinder, or Sebrango are putting up tons of points in their respective leagues. None of them are the next Cale Makar, so I'll easily go with the one most likely to make the NHL.
....but like you said at the beginning, Sebrango has the tools to be 2nd pair. He skates well, and can shoot. He just doesn't do it enough.he does have the tools to realistically be a 2nd pairing guy if he does hit though
it's all about how you value things, personally I view 4th line/3rd pairing guys as essentially worthless outcomes with how cheap and plentiful they are
like if I made a value scale where a 1st pairing would be worth 100 points then a 2nd pairing guy would be like maybe 30 and a 3rd pairing guy would be like.....1
so likelihood of hitting the NHL in and of itself really doesn't do much for me at all until you get up to a Seider kinda level where the floor is probably a 2nd pairing guy
Wallinder has more upside, but we're getting to the point where we should be seeing *some* improvement...
Wallinder is worse prospect we ever draft under Yzerman, almost first round pick
Love these posts back-to-backNo reason to think why Viro is better.
Can't understand these poll results.
I'll raise this up after 5 years and show how majority was wrong.
It's not like Viro, Wallinder, or Sebrango are putting up tons of points in their respective leagues. None of them are the next Cale Makar, so I'll easily go with the one most likely to make the NHL.
Yep. I get the "upside" argument, but only when we're talking about top prospects. Wallinder is not a top prospect. Guys like Wallinder, when they don't show post-draft improvement, are wholly uninteresting to me. They are home run swings that quickly fizzle out.
People like to say that bottom-of-the-lineup guys are dime a dozen, and I kinda get that, but I also think that is too simplistic. Guys who are good in their roles, whether that be first line or third pair, or anything in between, are not necessarily dime a dozen. If you can develop a sturdy and steady player like Sebrango to be 2nd-pair quality playing on your 3rd pair, you've developed some real solid value that matters when it comes to constructing a competitive roster. When guys like that reach free agency, they look to get paid and look for that bigger role, so finding that value in free agency is not as easy as I think a lot of people want to believe.