News Article: Pronman's pipeline rankings *new* added individual player rankings

[Micklebot]

Corey Pronman's NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 5 Senators are deep at all positions

Ranking the top prospects and under-23 players in the organization. Plus, what to expect of every player.

theathletic.com

Edit: individual prospect rankings in a new article

https://theathletic.com/3509131/2022/08/29/nhl-players-prospects-rankings-under-23/?source=user-shared-article

5. Tkachuk, 8. Stützle, 27. Sanderson, 66. Pinto, 128. Greig, 130. Sokolov

Not bad with no 2022 1st round pick and considering I doubt Pronman would be high on Boucher (spoiler, he isn't, hasBoucher 13th in our pipeline)

And now for the rankings:

1. Buffalo Sabres
Dahlin, Cozens, Power, Quinn, Krebs
2. Detroit Red Wings
Sieder, Raymond, Edvinsson, Kaspers, Zadina
3. New Jersey Devils
Hughes, Hughes, Nemec, Mercer, Holtz
4. Anaheim Ducks
Zebras, McTavish, Drysdale, Zellweger, Gaucher
5. Ottawa Senators
Tkachuk, Stützle, Sanderson, Pinto Greig,
6. Carolina Hurricanes
Svechnikov, Jarvis, Kotkaniemi, Nikishin, Drury
7. Montreal Canadiens
Slavkovski, Caulfield, Dach, Ghule, Barron
8. Minnesota Wild
Boldy, Walstetd, Adissin, Yurov, Rossi
9. New York Rangers
Lafreniere, Miller, Kakko, Schneider, Lundqvist
10. Los Angeles Kings
Byfield, Kaliyev, Clarke, Turcotte, Kupari
11. Arizona Coyotes

12. Columbus Blue Jackets

13. Chicago Blackhawks

14. Vancouver Canucks

15. Seattle Kraken

16. Winnipeg Jets

17. Dallas Stars

18. Edmonton Oilers

19. Philadelphia Flyers

20. Toronto Maple Leafs

21. San Jose Sharks

22. Nashville Predators

23. Colorado Avalanche

24. Washington Capitals

25. Florida Panthers

26. Vegas Golden Knights

27. New York Islanders

28. Calgary Flames

29. St. Louis Blues

30. Pittsburgh Penguins

31. Tampa Bay Lightning

32. Boston Bruins

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[HSF]

Corey Pronman's NHL Pipeline Rankings: No. 5 Senators are deep at all positions

Ranking the top prospects and under-23 players in the organization. Plus, what to expect of every player.

theathletic.com

Not bad with no 2022 1st round pick and considering I doubt Pronman would be high on Boucher (spoiler, he isn't, hasBoucher 13th in our pipeline)

u23 not surprising we are near the top

 

[Larionov]

I'm sour on the Boucher pick also, but you have to give the organization credit for their hits as well as their misses, and accept the fact that it is the same team, principles and approach that led to the successful picks as well as the unsuccessful ones. No one ever bats 1000 drafting 18 year old kids - all you can reasonably ask is that we are better than most of our opponents in terms of drafting guys who end up playing in the league...

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Other than Kastelic - his rankings align quite similarly to mine.

I love seeing JBD so low and Ostapchuk so high.

Well done.

 

[Sweatred]

I love these threads that are behind paywalls.

Anyway, great to hear his take on Boucher -

 

[SlapJack]

u23 not surprising we are near the top

Norris, Formenton, and Brannstrom just graduated so with that, no picks in the first 2 rounds last draft, and Boucher being a huge reach at 10 the year before, 5 is a good place to be.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Norris, Formenton, and Brannstrom just graduated so with that, no picks in the first 2 rounds last draft, and Boucher being a huge reach at 10 the year before, 5 is a good place to b

Delete

 

[Korpse]

Formenton and Brannstrom are still U23, I thought September 15th was cutoff. I think he screwed up.

Player Eligibility: All skaters who are 22 years old or younger as of Sept. 15, 2022, regardless of how many NHL games they’ve played, are eligible. Player heights and weights are taken from the NHL.

Brannstrom will be 23 on September 2nd. Formenton on September 13th. Brady Tkachuk who will 23 on September 16th makes the cut.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Brannstrom will be 23 on September 2nd. Formenton on September 13th. Brady Tkachuk who will 23 on September 16th makes the cut.

Yep after Sept 15, my bad

 

[Golden_Jet]

How did Timmie do in his ranking

 

[Micklebot]

How did Timmie do in his ranking

2. Tim Stützle, C

20 years old | 6-foot-1 | 187 pounds | Shoots left

Drafted: No. 3 in 2020
Tier: NHL All-Star

Skating: High-end
Puck skills: NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average

 

[Golden_Jet]

2. Tim Stützle, C

20 years old | 6-foot-1 | 187 pounds | Shoots left

Drafted: No. 3 in 2020
Tier: NHL All-Star

Skating: High-end
Puck skills: NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average

Thanks, I would’ve had his puck skills a notch higher.

 

[Xspyrit]

Brannstrom will be 23 on September 2nd. Formenton on September 13th. Brady Tkachuk who will 23 on September 16th makes the cut.

Damn we have a lot of talent missing the cut

Brannstrom and Formenton by days
Norris by 4 months
Batherson and DeBrincat by less than 2 years

Ranking 5th is not bad considering a lot of our good players are already over 23 (Chabot and Zub too). Time flies and that's also why we need to start competing yesterday.

2. Tim Stützle, C

Puck skills: NHL average

wow, ok

 

[SlapJack]

Thanks, I would’ve had his puck skills a notch higher.

Some of the assessments are head scratchers, but depends on how Pronman sees them. He gave Kleven and Boucher below NHL average skating. In his write up for Kleven he says his mobility isn't amazing but solid for a guy his size. I would lean towards that being average vs below average

 

[Micklebot]

Added team ranks, and for the top 10 teams listed their top 5 prospects.

Personally I see 2-5 as interchangeable, Buffalo is clear cut #1, and there's a drop off after 5.

 

[DJB]

2. Tim Stützle, C

20 years old | 6-foot-1 | 187 pounds | Shoots left

Drafted: No. 3 in 2020
Tier: NHL All-Star

Skating: High-end
Puck skills: NHL average
Hockey sense: Above NHL average
Compete: Above NHL average

Until the Athletic dumps Pronman and Wheeler they will never get my respect.

Both those guys are huge hacks

 

[Golden_Jet]

Until the Athletic dumps Pronman and Wheeler they will never get my respect.

Both those guys are huge hacks

What about the Dom L. Guy.

 

[JD1]

I love these threads that are behind paywalls.

Anyway, great to hear his take on Boucher -

Aren't you the guy always harping on 25.50?

Athletic subscriptions are dirt cheap.

 

[Masked]

Aren't you the guy always harping on 25.50?

Athletic subscriptions are dirt cheap.

12 foot ladders are even cheaper!

Assen na yo!

 

[h2]

Listing Tim Stutzle's puck skills as average instantly causes the author of that article to lose all credibility. The Athletic needs to dump Wheeler and Pronman.

 

[Micklebot]

Listing Tim Stutzle's puck skills as average instantly causes the author of that article to lose all credibility. The Athletic needs to dump Wheeler and Pronman.

Eh, Stu isn't particularly flashy with the puck, I think his puck skill is that he can do it at speed. There's not a lot of room for nuance in the way he's laid out the categories so I don't put much weight into them.

Like, skating, well you can be fast wrt to in or accelerate quickly, you can be agile and have great lateral movement or you can be hard to knock off balance, lots of ways to evaluate skating and it's not clear what he's doing or how he weighs different aspects of each category.

 

[Micklebot]

Until the Athletic dumps Pronman and Wheeler they will never get my respect.

Both those guys are huge hacks

Athletic casts a wide net, if you don't like those guys there are likely other writers who you might like, such as Mendes, Lebrun, Strang, ect. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Until the Athletic dumps Pronman and Wheeler they will never get my respect.

Both those guys are huge hacks

Both of them are super popular lol.

 

[Micklebot]

Both of them are super popular lol.

People love lists comparing their favourite team or players. Easy way to stir up conversation.

 

[Senscore]

I'm not that sold on Detroit. Seider is legit and Edvinsson and Raymond look really good but I'm just not convinced of the top end potential of the others.


Having Zadina on their list does them no favours.