Proposal: Preds-Oilers-Penguins Mega Deal

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Phil Kessel
Adam Larsson
Casey DeSmith


P.K Subban
Juuse Saros
Dominik Simon


Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

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[Captain Controversy]

Hmm... Idk

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Hmm... Idk

I feel like every team gets exactly what they need. Like EDM improves their D, goaltending and add a young middle six winger. Nashville get their high-end forward and replace Subban with Larsson and Saros with DeSmith who's been really good in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh adds a versatile forward that can do it all and have Jarry in the pipeline waiting for an opportunity.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Not taking into account value, this wrecks Edmonton's offensive depth even more then it already has been wrecked.

They'd have Draisaitl, McDavid and then who'd be the next best player, Simon?

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Not taking into account value, this wrecks Edmonton's offensive depth even more then it already has been wrecked.

They'd have Draisaitl, McDavid and then who'd be the next best player, Simon?

Maybe, but they'd impove their D and goaltending. Free agency can certainly help them land a top 6 forward. Or they could make another trade.

 

[Soundgarden]

We can get rid of Subban without giving up Saros.

Subban for Larsson + a 1st/Yamamoto or Subban for Kessel give or take minor pieces works.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

We can get rid of Subban without giving up Saros.

Subban for Larsson + a 1st/Yamamoto or Subban for Kessel give or take minor pieces works.

Pittsburgh has Letang though. Can't have both Letang and Subban, there's no way we can fit both under the cap.

 

[Soundgarden]

Pittsburgh has Letang though. Can't have both Letang and Subban, there's no way we can fit both under the cap.

Doesn't have to be Pittsburgh.

 

[780il]

I like it.

I hate including Nuge but Saros is a stud and he's the piece that tips the deal for me.

 

[HolyGhost]

Phil Kessel
Adam Larsson
Casey DeSmith


P.K Subban
Juuse Saros
Dominik Simon


Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

Oilers take this and run

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Doesn't have to be Pittsburgh.

It's not like you're not replacing Saros. DeSmith's been really good this year. He's even looked better than Murray at times.

 

[Soundgarden]

It's not like you're not replacing Saros. DeSmith's been really good this year. He's even looked better than Murray at times.

We've already got Saros as our goalie of the future, I just think it's an unnecessary add and one that is not close to being available.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

We've already got Saros as our goalie of the future, I just think it's an unnecessary add and one that is not close to being available.

Value wouldn't work otherwise.

 

[780il]

We can get rid of Subban without giving up Saros.

Subban for Larsson + a 1st/Yamamoto or Subban for Kessel give or take minor pieces works.

You'd do Subban for Larsson + Yamo? I'd much rather do that and not lose Nuge.

 

[Soundgarden]

Value wouldn't work otherwise.

Subban still has name recognition, if a team feels like Nashville must include Saros in a deal with Subban then they can make a deal with someone else. I'm sure a team like Florida would love to give him a shot at rebounding if only to put butts in seats, put him on Edmonton and he shores up their D and boosts their abysmal morale for cheap.

We have no reason to move Saros. He's off the table.

You'd do Subban for Larsson + Yamo? I'd much rather do that and not lose Nuge.

Is Larsson a no.4? Can Yamo be a top 6er? If so I'd say yes to it.

 

[Joey Moss]

Done from the Oilers..

We need a right handed offensive defenseman and a young goalie for the future. Perfect fit for our needs. Simon could play in the bottom 6 too.

 

[780il]

Subban still has name recognition, if a team feels like Nashville must include Saros in a deal with Subban then they can make a deal with someone else. I'm sure a team like Florida would love to give him a shot at rebounding if only to put butts in seats, put him on Edmonton and he shores up their D and boosts their abysmal morale for cheap.

We have no reason to move Saros. He's off the table.



Is Larsson a no.4? Can Yamo be a top 6er? If so I'd say yes to it.

Larsson is a #3 but he's struggled this year. Still a #4 though. He'd be great for Nashville where he wouldn't have to play the top matchups and too many minutes. Yamo definitely has top 6 potential.


Has Subban really been THAT bad this year? Seems like your selling him pretty cheap here...

 

[herzausstein]

Larsson is a #3 but he's struggled this year. Still a #4 though. He'd be great for Nashville where he wouldn't have to play the top matchups and too many minutes. Yamo definitely has top 6 potential.


Has Subban really been THAT bad this year? Seems like your selling him pretty cheap here...

Subban has been fine. But with Ellis, ekholm, and Josi we don’t really need another stud dman. A solid 2nd pairing dman like larsson is when he isn’t being called upon to play above his level is good enough especially if fabbro can settle in quickly on the third pairing. We really need a up and coming top 6 potential forward. Yamamoto/McLeod/Puljujarvi type of players. Could also use a good lhd prospect but that’s of lesser importance. Plus there’s the some cap savings for Nashville making the granlund and Josi extensions easier

 

[Soundgarden]

Larsson is a #3 but he's struggled this year. Still a #4 though. He'd be great for Nashville where he wouldn't have to play the top matchups and too many minutes. Yamo definitely has top 6 potential.


Has Subban really been THAT bad this year? Seems like your selling him pretty cheap here...

Subban has been bad this year, maybe not as dreadful as some have said but he's wavered between top pairing defenseman and a $9m no.4 defenseman. In any case, there's still a major chance that he'd be the best defenseman Edmonton's had since Pronger and worst case scenario he raises the morale of the team.

The thing is though, Nashville doesn't need 4 defenseman who can be top pairing guys, if they can downgrade Subban or Ellis by just a bit while upgrading their prospect pool it'll be better for us in the long run.

 

[780il]

Subban has been fine. But with Ellis, ekholm, and Josi we don’t really need another stud dman. A solid 2nd pairing dman like larsson is when he isn’t being called upon to play above his level is good enough especially if fabbro can settle in quickly on the third pairing. We really need a up and coming top 6 potential forward. Yamamoto/McLeod/Puljujarvi type of players. Could also use a good lhd prospect but that’s of lesser importance. Plus there’s the some cap savings for Nashville making the granlund and Josi extensions easier

Makes sense. Larsson would be a great fit imo and Yamamoto would blossom in an org like yours where you can give him time needed to properly develop and ease him into the lineup when ready.


How long do you think Subban can keep going for at a high level? There's guys like Suter and Weber who are 34 ish and still going strong. Does Subban have that in him or is he gonna decline sharply once he hits 31/32?

 

[780il]

Subban has been bad this year, maybe not as dreadful as some have said but he's wavered between top pairing defenseman and a $9m no.4 defenseman. In any case, there's still a major chance that he'd be the best defenseman Edmonton's had since Pronger and worst case scenario he raises the morale of the team.

The thing is though, Nashville doesn't need 4 defenseman who can be top pairing guys, if they can downgrade Subban or Ellis by just a bit while upgrading their prospect pool it'll be better for us in the long run.

How long do you think Subban can keep going for at a high level? There's guys like Suter and Weber who are 34 ish and still going strong. Does Subban have that in him or is he gonna decline sharply once he hits 31/32?

Also, any chance maybe a Larsson + Yamamoto for Ellis deal would be on the table instead? Ellis is a decent bit younger so I think I'd rather do that instead. Edit: just realized Ellis is only 1 and a half year younger but would something around him work? Just guaging value.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Subban scares me, honestly. He’s got a big fat cap hit for a lot of years left and he’s having a truly miserable year. Im not sure he’s got more value than RNH at the moment. 25 points in 58 games with rumblings about his conditioning... I don’t know.

I’m pretty meh on Simon as well, he’s just okay. I do like Saros though.

Cap hits are pretty much dead even so it doesn’t help us relieve any space either.

Basically saddles us with a forward group where Zack Kassian and Simon are battling it out for 3rd best forward, as well as basically ending McDavid and Draisaitl permanently because we’d be forced to have him as a full time 2C playing with whatever scrubs we could dig up.

RNH to Simon is a *huge* downgrade, much more so than Larsson to Subban is an upgrade. Does Saros make up for that... I’m not sure. I feel it doesn’t solve any problems, just shuffles the problems around while taking away our nuclear option.

 

[LeHab]

Can't see Miss Vonn enjoying her recent retirement in Edmonton.

 

[A91]

Can't see Miss Vonn enjoying her recent retirement in Edmonton.

Lol they arent even engaged are they? Also Subby lost his NTC so he really doesnt have a say.

 

[LeHab]

Lol they arent even engaged are they? Also Subby lost his NTC so he really doesnt have a say.

Don't know how serious they are but if they have long term plans, I wouldn't be surprised Subban pulls a Pronger on Oilers. Would you prefer to play with Vonn or Oilers? I know what I'd chose.

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