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The Champions Hockey League, a league where SHL teams play reserve and youth players, has been won by SHL teams basically every year, and contain 3 out of 4 SHL teams in the semis. We consistently see players that couldn’t cut it in the SHL at all star in the Liiga and NLA. If you don’t consider the KHL European, I don’t think anyone would argue with me here.
 
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My latest update. Positions reflect where I think each player will play in pro hockey. Input is welcome.

2020 Draft List:
  1. Alexis Lafreniere-W
  2. Jamie Drysdale-RD
  3. Quinton Byfield-C
  4. Lucas Raymond-W
  5. Anton Lundell-C
  6. Jeremie Poirier-LD
  7. Yaroslav Askarov-G
  8. Cole Perfetti-W
  9. Tim Stuetzle-C
  10. Noel Gunler-W
  11. Jean-Luc Foudy-C
  12. Brendan Brisson-C
  13. Jacob Perreault-C
  14. Alex Holtz-W
  15. Alexander Nikishin-LD
  16. Thomas Bordeleau-C
  17. Connor Zary-C
  18. Hendrix Lapierre-C
  19. Justin Barron-RD
  20. Jan Mysak-C
  21. Rodion Amirov-W
  22. Dylan Holloway-C
  23. Marco Rossi-W
  24. Dawson Mercer-W
  25. Martin Chromiak-C
  26. William Wallinder-LD
  27. Jake Sanderson-LD
  28. Ryan O’Rourke-LD
  29. Helge Grans-RD
  30. Theodor Niederbach-C
  31. Mavrik Bourque-C
  32. Kaiden Guhle-LD
  33. Zion Nybeck-W
  34. Jaromir Pytlik-C
  35. Antonio Stranges-W
  36. Ty Smilanic-C
  37. Jack Quinn-W
  38. Lukas Reichel-W
  39. Braden Schneider-RD
  40. Jake Neighbours-W
  41. Eamon Powell-RD
  42. Ryder Rolston-W
  43. Topi Niemela-LD
  44. William Villeneuve-RD
  45. Ruben Rafkin-RD
  46. John Jason Peterka-W
  47. Roni Hirvonen-W
  48. Ozzy Wiesblatt-W
  49. Yan Kuznetsov-LD
  50. Tyler Kleven-LD
  51. Connor McClennon-W
  52. Jasper Simontaival-W
  53. Samuel Knazko-LD
  54. Jack Thompson-RD
  55. Mitchell Miller-RD
  56. Maxim Groshev-W
  57. Wyatt Schingoethe-C
  58. Jan Bednar-G
  59. Luke Tuch-W
  60. Dylan Garand-G
  61. Marat Khusnutdinov-C
  62. Blake Biondi-W

    31 Honorable Mentions (amounts to a non-ranked third round)
Foerster, Berard, Cuylle, Commesso, Blomqvist, Clang, Faber, Kubicek, Rempe, Coe, Farrell, Jarventie, Malik, Novak, Pashin, Sebrango, Jarvis, Skotnikov, Tyutnev, Bantle, Beryozkin, Cormier, Andrae, Savoie, Benning, Colangelo, Evangelista, Francis, Torgesson, Finley, Didkovsky


Appreciate the effort by why are Foudy and Brisson at 11 and 12 and Hendrix Lapierre at 18 and rossi all the way down to 23rd?

I see that you have Rossi as a winger in pro but I'm not sold as Foudy being a #1 center in the NHL or even a offensively productive #2 center.

Brisson admittedly I don't know very much about.
 

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1. Alexis Lafreniere
2. Quinton Byfeild

3. Jamie Drysdale
4. Yaroslav Askerov

5. Anton Lundell
6. Marco Rossi
7. Lucas Raymond
8. Cole Perfetti
9. Tim Stuzle

10. Alexander Holtz
11. Noel Grundler
12. Dylan Holloway
13. Dawson Mercer
14. Connor Zary

15. Justin Barron
16. Jeremie Poirier

17. Rodion Amirov
18. Braden Schneider
19. Jacob Perreault
20. Jan Mysak
 
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  1. Lafraniere
  2. Byfield
  3. Raymond
  4. Stutzle
  5. Rossi
  6. Drysdale
  7. Holtz
  8. Lundell
  9. Perfetti
  10. Askarov
  11. Holloway
  12. Gunler
  13. Zary
  14. Mysak
  15. Barron
  16. Wallinder
  17. Schneider
  18. Lapierre
  19. Mercer
  20. Amirov
  21. Sanderson
  22. Guhle
  23. Grans
  24. Smilanic
  25. Bourque
  26. Nybeck
  27. Reichel
  28. Perreault
  29. Bordeleau
  30. Niemela
  31. Foerster
 
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Appreciate the effort by why are Foudy and Brisson at 11 and 12 and Hendrix Lapierre at 18 and rossi all the way down to 23rd?

I see that you have Rossi as a winger in pro but I'm not sold as Foudy being a #1 center in the NHL or even a offensively productive #2 center.

Brisson admittedly I don't know very much about.

Foudy is such an outstanding skater, and I think he's a very good playmaker with excellent puck skills. The points might not be there this season. His assist totals are very low, but I don't think he's lost his playmaking ability. I don't watch every game, so I can't be sure what the problem is, but I suspect it's probably more about puck luck or line mates than his playmaking ability. And he definitely has some things to work on. I wouldn't excuse a player of his talent being under 1PPG, but I'm not going to move a player with that much talent down too low in my rankings. He has some things to work on. I think he can do a better job of playing less on the perimeter and releasing the puck earlier rather than holding onto it, but I think it's very hard to rank a player who skates as well as he does with real hockey skill any lower than I have him ranked.

Brisson is really good. A lot of people don't know yet because he's not a high profile guy. Hasn't played junior prior to this season, late birthday, plays in the USHL but not for the NTDP. He's an excellent playmaker. One of the best playmakers in the draft. He's very skilled, high hockey IQ, skates very well. I think he sticks at center, as well.

Lapierre has the concussion issues. I don't want to completely downgrade him too much for an injury, but when you miss so much time and aren't having a good season to begin with, I think dropping a little is justified.

I wasn't a big Rossi fan to begin with, but I moved him up 13 spots from my last list. I think he'll be a winger in the NHL. Lack of elite skating and being undersized isn't something you see often with NHL centers. But I also am trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt in some respects. His late birthdate shouldn't work against him because he was also very good a year ago, so whether he was grouped with the players from the last draft or this one, he still has done well. I also think he'll be able to be a good winger in the NHL, despite being undersized and not being a great skater. He's still an adequate skater, and has a pretty good compete level.
 
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My latest update. Positions reflect where I think each player will play in pro hockey. Input is welcome.

2020 Draft List:
  1. Alexis Lafreniere-W
  2. Jamie Drysdale-RD
  3. Quinton Byfield-C
  4. Lucas Raymond-W
  5. Anton Lundell-C
  6. Jeremie Poirier-LD
  7. Yaroslav Askarov-G
  8. Cole Perfetti-W
  9. Tim Stuetzle-C
  10. Noel Gunler-W
  11. Jean-Luc Foudy-C
  12. Brendan Brisson-C
  13. Jacob Perreault-C
  14. Alex Holtz-W
  15. Alexander Nikishin-LD
  16. Thomas Bordeleau-C
  17. Connor Zary-C
  18. Hendrix Lapierre-C
  19. Justin Barron-RD
  20. Jan Mysak-C
  21. Rodion Amirov-W
  22. Dylan Holloway-C
  23. Marco Rossi-W
  24. Dawson Mercer-W
  25. Martin Chromiak-C
  26. William Wallinder-LD
  27. Jake Sanderson-LD
  28. Ryan O’Rourke-LD
  29. Helge Grans-RD
  30. Theodor Niederbach-C
  31. Mavrik Bourque-C
  32. Kaiden Guhle-LD
  33. Zion Nybeck-W
  34. Jaromir Pytlik-C
  35. Antonio Stranges-W
  36. Ty Smilanic-C
  37. Jack Quinn-W
  38. Lukas Reichel-W
  39. Braden Schneider-RD
  40. Jake Neighbours-W
  41. Eamon Powell-RD
  42. Ryder Rolston-W
  43. Topi Niemela-LD
  44. William Villeneuve-RD
  45. Ruben Rafkin-RD
  46. John Jason Peterka-W
  47. Roni Hirvonen-W
  48. Ozzy Wiesblatt-W
  49. Yan Kuznetsov-LD
  50. Tyler Kleven-LD
  51. Connor McClennon-W
  52. Jasper Simontaival-W
  53. Samuel Knazko-LD
  54. Jack Thompson-RD
  55. Mitchell Miller-RD
  56. Maxim Groshev-W
  57. Wyatt Schingoethe-C
  58. Jan Bednar-G
  59. Luke Tuch-W
  60. Dylan Garand-G
  61. Marat Khusnutdinov-C
  62. Blake Biondi-W

    31 Honorable Mentions (amounts to a non-ranked third round)
Foerster, Berard, Cuylle, Commesso, Blomqvist, Clang, Faber, Kubicek, Rempe, Coe, Farrell, Jarventie, Malik, Novak, Pashin, Sebrango, Jarvis, Skotnikov, Tyutnev, Bantle, Beryozkin, Cormier, Andrae, Savoie, Benning, Colangelo, Evangelista, Francis, Torgesson, Finley, Didkovsky
Where's Ponomaryov? Or is he a confirmed bust since he went to the CHL?
 

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Where's Ponomaryov? Or is he a confirmed bust since he went to the CHL?

I wouldn't call him a confirmed bust, but his league choice works against him in my rankings. I think he might be the most talented Russian forward in the draft, but the most talented player isn't always the best prospect.
 

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Did you really call Raymonds skating average? He is the best skater in the draft, he has unrivaled speed and edge work. His stats are great, scoring at a better pace than most current swedish stars did at the same age, and his stats look worse because he plays 7 minutes a night on the most stacked team europe has seen in a decade. He would play regular top minutes on another team, and probably break the all time U18 scoring record, something he still has a decent chance to do. The SHL is miles ahead of every other european league and production can't be compared to leagues like the NLA, Liiga or DEL.

As for Stutlze, to me he has higher potential than you said, 100 point potential, he is that good.

The best skater in the draft is Drysdale.

There’s a couple others close but Drysdale for me consistently stands out against his draft class as having the best skating.
 

AB13

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The best skater in the draft is Drysdale.

There’s a couple others close but Drysdale for me consistently stands out against his draft class as having the best skating.

He looks faster than Raymond to me, but his edgework is nearly as great. I have not watched Drysdale enough though, will be intesting to see at the world juniors. It is always hard to compare defencemen to forwards in terms of skating.
 

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The best skater in the draft is Drysdale.

There’s a couple others close but Drysdale for me consistently stands out against his draft class as having the best skating.

Foudy. I say that as a big fan of Drysdale, but Foudy’s skating is world class, even if he never becomes a world class player. Better skater than his brother. He’ll be one of the best skaters in the NHL. Up there with McDavid, Eichel, Quinn Hughes.
 
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Made this for fun today.... far from set in stone...

1- Lafreniere
2- Byfield
3- Drysdale
4- Raymond
5- Stutzle
6- Perfetti
7- Askarov
8- Lundell
9- Rossi
10- Zary
11- Holtz
12- Holloway
13- Lapierre
14- Gunler
15- Mercer
16- Wallinder
17- Perrault
18- Bourque
19- Barron
20- Guhle
 

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Foudy. I say that as a big fan of Drysdale, but Foudy’s skating is world class, even if he never becomes a world class player. Better skater than his brother. He’ll be one of the best skaters in the NHL. Up there with McDavid, Eichel, Quinn Hughes.

Yeah Foudy is up there as well and who I also had in mind, I have him and Drysdale neck and neck but Foudy is unbelievable. I think his straight line speed is likely unmatched in the draft.
 

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2020 Draft List:

  1. Alexis Lafreniere-W
  2. Jamie Drysdale-RD
  3. Tim Stuetzle-C
  4. Lucas Raymond-W
  5. Quinton Byfield-C
  6. Anton Lundell-C
  7. Cole Perfetti-W
  8. Yaroslav Askarov-G
  9. Jeremie Poirier-LD
  10. Thomas Bordeleau-C
  11. Noel Gunler-W
  12. Brendan Brisson-C
  13. Jacob Perreault-W
  14. Alex Holtz-W
  15. Marco Rossi-C
  16. Connor Zary-C
  17. Jean-Luc Foudy-C
  18. Alexander Nikishin-LD
  19. Jake Sanderson-LD
  20. Helge Grans-RD
  21. Dawson Mercer-C
  22. Rodion Amirov-W
  23. Jack Quinn-W
  24. Martin Chromiak-C
  25. William Wallinder-LD
  26. Mavrik Bourque-C
  27. Ryan O’Rourke-LD
  28. Lukas Reichel-W
  29. Dylan Holloway-C
  30. Theodor Niederbach-C
  31. Jan Mysak-C
  32. Hendrix Lapierre-C
  33. Justin Barron-RD
  34. Ty Smilanic-C
  35. Kaiden Guhle-LD
  36. Braeden Schneider-RD
  37. Zion Nybeck-W
  38. John-Jason Peterka-W
  39. Topi Niemela-LD
  40. Jake Neighbours-W
  41. Eamon Powell-RD
  42. Drew Commesso-G
  43. William Villeneuve-RD
  44. Maxim Beryozkin-W
  45. Yan Kuznetsov-LD
  46. Jaromir Pytlik-C
  47. Seth Jarvis-W
  48. Roni Hirvonen-W
  49. Luke Evangelista-W
  50. Tyler Kleven-LD
  51. Luke Tuch-W
  52. Connor McClennon-W
  53. Marat Khusnutdinov-C
  54. Vsevolod Skotnikov-G
  55. Ozzy Wiessblatt-W
  56. Kasper Simontaival-W
  57. Dylan Garand-G
  58. Daniel Torgesson-W
  59. Sam Colangelo-W
  60. Mitchell Miller-RD
  61. Tyson Foerster-C
  62. Roby Jarventie-W

31 HM's (amounts to an unranked third round)

Rafkin, Thompson, Schingoethe, Biondi, Knazko, Groshev, Berard, Hardie, Blomqvist, Clang, Faber, Kubicek, Rempe, Coe, Farrell, Malik, Novak, Pashin, Sebrango, Tyutnev, Bantle, Cormier, Andrae, Savoie, Benning, Francis, Finley, Didkovsky, Greig, Heineman, Ovchinnikov
 

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2020 Draft List:

  1. Alexis Lafreniere-W
  2. Jamie Drysdale-RD
  3. Tim Stuetzle-C
  4. Lucas Raymond-W
  5. Quinton Byfield-C
  6. Anton Lundell-C
  7. Cole Perfetti-W
  8. Yaroslav Askarov-G
  9. Jeremie Poirier-LD
  10. Thomas Bordeleau-C
  11. Noel Gunler-W
  12. Brendan Brisson-C
  13. Jacob Perreault-W
  14. Alex Holtz-W
  15. Marco Rossi-C
  16. Connor Zary-C
  17. Jean-Luc Foudy-C
  18. Alexander Nikishin-LD
  19. Jake Sanderson-LD
  20. Helge Grans-RD
  21. Dawson Mercer-C
  22. Rodion Amirov-W
  23. Jack Quinn-W
  24. Martin Chromiak-C
  25. William Wallinder-LD
  26. Mavrik Bourque-C
  27. Ryan O’Rourke-LD
  28. Lukas Reichel-W
  29. Dylan Holloway-C
  30. Theodor Niederbach-C
  31. Jan Mysak-C
  32. Hendrix Lapierre-C
  33. Justin Barron-RD
  34. Ty Smilanic-C
  35. Kaiden Guhle-LD
  36. Braeden Schneider-RD
  37. Zion Nybeck-W
  38. John-Jason Peterka-W
  39. Topi Niemela-LD
  40. Jake Neighbours-W
  41. Eamon Powell-RD
  42. Drew Commesso-G
  43. William Villeneuve-RD
  44. Maxim Beryozkin-W
  45. Yan Kuznetsov-LD
  46. Jaromir Pytlik-C
  47. Seth Jarvis-W
  48. Roni Hirvonen-W
  49. Luke Evangelista-W
  50. Tyler Kleven-LD
  51. Luke Tuch-W
  52. Connor McClennon-W
  53. Marat Khusnutdinov-C
  54. Vsevolod Skotnikov-G
  55. Ozzy Wiessblatt-W
  56. Kasper Simontaival-W
  57. Dylan Garand-G
  58. Daniel Torgesson-W
  59. Sam Colangelo-W
  60. Mitchell Miller-RD
  61. Tyson Foerster-C
  62. Roby Jarventie-W

31 HM's (amounts to an unranked third round)

Rafkin, Thompson, Schingoethe, Biondi, Knazko, Groshev, Berard, Hardie, Blomqvist, Clang, Faber, Kubicek, Rempe, Coe, Farrell, Malik, Novak, Pashin, Sebrango, Tyutnev, Bantle, Cormier, Andrae, Savoie, Benning, Francis, Finley, Didkovsky, Greig, Heineman, Ovchinnikov
Rossi on 15. is a joke or..:D

he lead the OHl and CHl in Points and +/-, with just 43 GP. he had 94 Points
 

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Next update.

2020 Draft List:

  1. Alexis Lafreniere-W
  2. Jamie Drysdale-RD
  3. Tim Stuetzle-C
  4. Lucas Raymond-W
  5. Quinton Byfield-C
  6. Anton Lundell-C
  7. Cole Perfetti-W
  8. Yaroslav Askarov-G
  9. Jeremie Poirier-LD
  10. Thomas Bordeleau-C
  11. Noel Gunler-W
  12. Brendan Brisson-C
  13. Jacob Perreault-W
  14. Alex Holtz-W
  15. Marco Rossi-C
  16. Connor Zary-C
  17. Jean-Luc Foudy-C
  18. Alexander Nikishin-LD
  19. Jake Sanderson-LD
  20. Helge Grans-RD
  21. Dawson Mercer-C
  22. Rodion Amirov-W
  23. Jack Quinn-W
  24. Martin Chromiak-C
  25. William Wallinder-LD
  26. Mavrik Bourque-C
  27. Ryan O’Rourke-LD
  28. Lukas Reichel-W
  29. Dylan Holloway-C
  30. Theodor Niederbach-C
  31. Jan Mysak-C
  32. Hendrix Lapierre-C
  33. Justin Barron-RD
  34. Ty Smilanic-C
  35. Kaiden Guhle-LD
  36. Braeden Schneider-RD
  37. Zion Nybeck-W
  38. John-Jason Peterka-W
  39. Topi Niemela-LD
  40. Jake Neighbours-W
  41. Eamon Powell-RD
  42. Drew Commesso-G
  43. William Villeneuve-RD
  44. Maxim Beryozkin-W
  45. Yan Kuznetsov-LD
  46. Jaromir Pytlik-C
  47. Seth Jarvis-W
  48. Roni Hirvonen-W
  49. Luke Evangelista-W
  50. Tyler Kleven-LD
  51. Luke Tuch-W
  52. Connor McClennon-W
  53. Marat Khusnutdinov-C
  54. Vsevolod Skotnikov-G
  55. Ozzy Wiessblatt-W
  56. Kasper Simontaival-W
  57. Dylan Garand-G
  58. Daniel Torgesson-W
  59. Sam Colangelo-W
  60. Mitchell Miller-RD
  61. Tyson Foerster-C
  62. Roby Jarventie-W

31 HM's (amounts to an unranked third round)

Rafkin, Thompson, Schingoethe, Biondi, Knazko, Groshev, Berard, Hardie, Blomqvist, Clang, Faber, Kubicek, Rempe, Coe, Farrell, Malik, Novak, Pashin, Sebrango, Tyutnev, Bantle, Cormier, Andrae, Savoie, Benning, Francis, Finley, Didkovsky, Greig, Heineman, Ovchinnikov

you my friend, are going to look like a complete genius or a complete fool with Byfield at 5 and Rossi and 15
 

Nabrules

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1. Quinton Byfield
2. Alexis Lafreniere
3. Lucas Raymond
4. Tim Stutzle
5. Marco Rossi
6. Jamie Drysdale
7. Cole Perfetti
8. Alexander Holtz
9. Anton Lundell
10. Yaroslav Askarov

Yes, I have QB at 1, no im not trying to stir anything. In my personal opinion, Byfield has the potential package to be a franchise 85-90 point C who can carry a team to success, that’s something I can’t pass up on if I’m an NHL team. I project Lafreniere to be very good in his own right. Obviously there’s a very realistic chance he’s the best player in this draft 10 years from now, but I can see the same thing being said about Raymond, Stutzle and Rossi. Great top 8 in this draft, and solid options at 9/10 too.

Substantial drop off in this draft for me after 10 where u get into names like Zary, Perrault, Quinn!
 
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He's a much better skater.

Stranges has that interesting skating style that players like Skinner and Spooner have, but Foudy is a world class skater. He's one of the best skaters in the world. Stranges has improved his skating and is a good skater. That interesting skating style makes his skating more of a discussion point, but in terms of who skates better, I don't know how someone could seriously state that Stranges skates be

Cannot understand the over-the-top gushing over Foudy. Of course he's fast, of course he is a great skater. And yes NHL teams can make him stronger. But what do NHL teams do to improve the mental decision-making that causes him to give the puck away regularly? What does an NHL team do to change a lifetime of selfish thinking that makes him a terrific player on his own, but one that leaves teammates standing still.

I sit in Windsor and listen to STH absolutely groan when he carries the puck. Especially when he absolutely once-a-game, rags the puck around the world only to give it up and cause an odd-man rush against. Spits fans have been hooting on Foudy for almost 2 seasons now.

Stranges has excellent edges and the ability to instantly create separation and accelerate with full field of vision by going to a 10-and-2 style. Foudy doesn't have that. But straight-on skating, Foudy is better that Stranges.

With that said, I believe both of these kids could fall outside of the 1st Round. Stranges, more than likely a 2nd. Heck, he's not even London's best draft eligible '02 !

But Foudy??? IMO, pro scouts see the decision-making.
 

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1. Lafreniere
2. Stutzle
3. Drysdale
4. Byfield
5. Raymond
6. Lundell
7. Rossi
8. Holtz
9. Perfetti
10. Askarov
11. Mysak
12. Quinn
13. Zary
14. Poirier
15. Bourque
16. Schneider
17. Gunler
18. Amirov
19. Benning
20. Peterka
21. Guhle
22. Mercer
23. Jarvis
24. Sanderson
25. Holloway
26. O'Rourke
27. Bordeleau
28. Cormier
29. Grans
30. Brisson
31. Greig
 

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Rossi on 15. is a joke or..:D

he lead the OHl and CHl in Points and +/-, with just 43 GP. he had 94 Points

I've moved him up in recent months. I'm not sure how much higher the ceiling is going to get than around where I have him listed. I don't see the potential to list him in the top 10, and I was struggling to get 10 guys into that top 10 because there's a drops off towards the end of that top ten. Thats only my opinion though. OHL scoring is up a lot, so point totals aren't a very convincing argument this year for OHL players.
 

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Cannot understand the over-the-top gushing over Foudy. Of course he's fast, of course he is a great skater. And yes NHL teams can make him stronger. But what do NHL teams do to improve the mental decision-making that causes him to give the puck away regularly? What does an NHL team do to change a lifetime of selfish thinking that makes him a terrific player on his own, but one that leaves teammates standing still.

I sit in Windsor and listen to STH absolutely groan when he carries the puck. Especially when he absolutely once-a-game, rags the puck around the world only to give it up and cause an odd-man rush against. Spits fans have been hooting on Foudy for almost 2 seasons now.

Stranges has excellent edges and the ability to instantly create separation and accelerate with full field of vision by going to a 10-and-2 style. Foudy doesn't have that. But straight-on skating, Foudy is better that Stranges.

With that said, I believe both of these kids could fall outside of the 1st Round. Stranges, more than likely a 2nd. Heck, he's not even London's best draft eligible '02 !

But Foudy??? IMO, pro scouts see the decision-making.

I think you are adding weaknesses that aren't there because you see some slight weaknesses in categories that sometimes are related. He does tend to hold onto the puck too much, but he also is a very good playmaker. When he needs to make a pass, he does it extremely well, and is a very talented playmaker. The issue is that he knows he can skate with it in circles, and doesn't need to make quick plays. I don't think decision-making is the problem, I think it's more an issue of a league where the player is not challenged in this part of the game, and that's hurting his game because he's trying to over-stickhandle when he doesn't need to. I think once he gets to pro hockey, this can easily be coached out of him. I don't think he's an inherently dumb player, but he's developing bad habits this season, and its resulted in a weaker season. He's also injured now.

I think Foudy's too talented to not rank in at least the middle third of the first round. He's a world class skater with a lot of skill and playmaking ability. He's also made improvements in his two way game, and he's done a better job this season with goal-scoring. His assist numbers are actually down a lot this season. Some of that is due to over-stick handling, but some of it has to due with variance.
 

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1. Lafreniere
2. Stutzle
3. Drysdale
4. Byfield
5. Raymond
6. Lundell
7. Rossi
8. Holtz
9. Perfetti
10. Askarov
11. Mysak
12. Quinn
13. Zary
14. Poirier
15. Bourque
16. Schneider
17. Gunler
18. Amirov
19. Benning
20. Peterka
21. Guhle
22. Mercer
23. Jarvis
24. Sanderson
25. Holloway
26. O'Rourke
27. Bordeleau
28. Cormier
29. Grans
30. Brisson
31. Greig

Good list. Very close to how I would have mine. There are a few changes but not many. I don't like Poirier that high.
 
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Good list. Very close to how I would have mine. There are a few changes but not many. I don't like Poirier that high.

Thanks! I ranked Poirier that high because of his offensive ceiling. If he can improve his defensive zone play he could be a really good one! If he doesn't improve it, it could be really hard for him to even make it to the NHL. Boom-Bust kind of prospect.
 

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1. Lafreniere
2. Byfield
3. Drysdale
4. Stutzle
5. Raymond
6. Rossi
7. Perfetti
8. Holtz
9. Lundell
10. Zary
11. Quinn
12. Gunler
13. Askarov
14. Amirov
15. Bourque
16. Schneider
17. Mysak
18. Mercer
19. Lapierre
20. Sanderson
21. Guhle
22. Poirier
23. Benning
24. Peterka
25. Holloway
26. O'Rourke
27. Bordeleau
28. Cormier
29. Jarvis
30. Foudy
31. Stranges
 
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WildWillie

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Thanks! I ranked Poirier that high because of his offensive ceiling. If he can improve his defensive zone play he could be a really good one! If he doesn't improve it, it could be really hard for him to even make it to the NHL. Boom-Bust kind of prospect.
Yeah the offensive upside is there. I have concerns with his his skating at the next level.

Perfetti is an interesting prospect to me. Doesn't have the wow factor that some of the others have in the top 10 but had a really great Hlinka & u17s which says he can get it done against top competition. Pair that with outstanding junior seasons and I'd feel real safe with taking him after the top 4.
 
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