Poll: Vote for your top 3 guys you feel can be moved for value at the next Trade deadline

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Kulak is not the type of D that team want to add before playoff though. He doesn't have a specific role on a team (PP/PK), he's not physical and he don't play big minutes. I think we can have a 4-5th round pick but I would be EXTREMELY surprise if we got a 2nd for him.

Someone will take Kulak easily at the deadline with 50percent retention. Teams need playoff depth for 900k for a 3 or 4th pick that's nothing. You see players like Kulak traded every single years at the tel for mid late picks

 

[Vachon23]

Higher or lower value than Beaulieu? We got a 3rd for Beaulieu. Hard to say with Kulak and I would get 3rd - 5th range. Value and what is given year to year at deadlines are guesses.

Beaulieu was still young when that happen though, probably in the same range of Rielly/Morrow

 

[Vachon23]

Someone will take Kulak easily at the deadline with 50percent retention. Teams need playoff depth for 900k for a 3 or 4th pick that's nothing. You see players like Kulak traded every single years at the tel for mid late picks

Yes that what I'm saying, he will go for a mid pick but not a 2nd

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Kulak is not the type of D that team want to add before playoff though. He doesn't have a specific role on a team (PP/PK), he's not physical and he don't play big minutes. I think we can have a 4-5th round pick but I would be EXTREMELY surprise if we got a 2nd for him.

I'm one of the biggest Kulak defender here, and I would also be surprised if he got more than a 4th. He's good in his role as a 3rd pairing guy, but it's true that not being a guy you can put on the PP (and ideally not on a PK) can hurt his value in the eyes of GMs. His "specific role" is being a defensive-minded transition d-man, so I could see teams that lack mobility on the back end being interested, or just teams that want a cheap insurance policy in case of injuries.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Began by Hoffman, Toffoli and Drouin, forgot Chiarot on the way and thought that most of them could be traded. I don't want them ALL traded, of course, but honestly most of them could.

 

[jaffy27]

Vote for 3 guys you feel can and should be moved at the next deadline cause we can get value in trades? My picks are

Chiarot
Toffoli
Hoffman

Chiarot
Toffoli
Byron

I see some have voted for Petry but it is unlikely you move that contract.

 

[jaffy27]

I'm one of the biggest Kulak defender here, and I would also be surprised if he got more than a 4th. He's good in his role as a 3rd pairing guy, but it's true that not being a guy you can put on the PP (and ideally not on a PK) can hurt his value in the eyes of GMs. His "specific role" is being a defensive-minded transition d-man, so I could see teams that lack mobility on the back end being interested, or just teams that want a cheap insurance policy in case of injuries.

Maybe a 3rd

 

[jaffy27]

Picked Chiarot, Byron and Armia, but to be honest.... I dont see any of them being the key to a rebuild.

There are some that are more difficult to let go, simply because finding a replacement may be harder. Gally, Anderson, Petry are among these. And here I'm not speaking of contract situation but role in the roster.

Addition by subtraction…..you increase your chances of a high pick by dealing the aforementioned plus you’re getting picks and prospects for these players……we need to do this now.

Also…..sit Price for the entire season, let him get his head right and kick old habits

 

[Habs Halifax]

Addition by subtraction…..you increase your chances of a high pick by dealing the aforementioned plus you’re getting picks and prospects for these players……we need to do this now.

Also…..sit Price for the entire season, let him get his head right and kick old habits

One area we were just talking about with Price at our work office is does he want to play in the Olympics? I would assume so and in that case, I think he personally gets himself setup to play games prior so he is ready. Habs won't be able to stop him unless he has medical issues with his knee.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Beaulieu was still young when that happen though, probably in the same range of Rielly/Morrow

Very fair so that's why I said 3rd-5th range. Just depends on the deadline and supply/demand. Kulak would be basically for a bottom pairing role or depth so yeah... it might be a 4th or 5th.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Gallagher
Byron
Toffoli

 

[Habs Halifax]

Gallagher
Byron
Toffoli

You're keeping Chiarot or think he don't return much? Curious

 

[GoodKiwi]

Molson
Bergevin
Timmins

 

[MrNasty]

the most realistic to move are Chiarot, Allen and Kulak but Kulak is not an option in the poll

 

[LaP]

Higher or lower value than Beaulieu? We got a 3rd for Beaulieu. Hard to say with Kulak and I would get 3rd - 5th range. Value and what is given year to year at deadlines are guesses.

Lower. Beaulieu was coming off a good season where he had to replace an injured Markov and did well doing so. There was hope it was his breakout season since he was only 23.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lower. Beaulieu was coming off a good season where he had to replace an injured Markov and did well doing so. There was hope it was his breakout season since he was only 23.

The reasons with Beaulieu are fair but it's not absolute in value cause it fluctuate and it's worse at the deadline. I would say 3rd - 5th range but probably 4th or 5th. A lot would matter on how he is trending right before the deadline too.

However, at the end of the day, anybody trading for Kulak is for a bottom pairing role or depth role. So a 3rd is very questionable

 

[LaP]

The reasons with Beaulieu are fair but it's not absolute in value cause it fluctuate and it's worse at the deadline. I would say 3rd - 5th range but probably 4th or 5th. A lot would matter on how he is trending right before the deadline too.

However, at the end of the day, anybody trading for Kulak is for a bottom pairing role or depth role. So a 3rd is very questionable

3rd is possible if it's a team almost sure to draft bottom 4. 2nd highly unlikely. 3rd from a team no sure to go far unlikely too.

 

[angusyoung]

 

[jaffy27]

One area we were just talking about with Price at our work office is does he want to play in the Olympics? I would assume so and in that case, I think he personally gets himself setup to play games prior so he is ready. Habs won't be able to stop him unless he has medical issues with his knee.

Good point!!

 

[malcb33]

Molson
Bergevin
Timmins

No one would even claim those guys on waivers, so forget about them having trade value

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You're not gonna trade everyone.
Petry, how good will he be 3 years from now if we aren't getting a top D over that span?

Everyone is fair game. Before moving people and rebuilding, a plan needs to be set in motion.

Then it can’t be MB in charge. He has been without a plan for a decade.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

While Hoffman and Toffoli would net us value, it isn't the best move professionally as these were UFAs who signed on for relatively friendly contracts. Montreal isn't the most popular UFA destination, and jettisoning UFAs after they sign will raise red flags for the future. Of course, this is all moot if they request a trade or if we do trade them, we move them somewhere THEY want to go.

Chiarot is a no brainer, though if there was a way to keep him over Savard...

Anyways, Chiarot can probably get us something decent. I'd also look into moving Lehkonen also as he's a RFA and should net us a decent return.

Drouin and Byron won't be moved until this offseason at the earliest.

The issue is, unless we can find ways to move Gallagher and other large contracts, we can't rebuild. We're older than people seem to realize and it's not easy moving these.

I don’t think players really look at this that much tbh. Build a winner and they will come. You shouldn’t be trying to build your team through UFA’s anyway. They are either stopgaps or players that put you over the top. We need to build from within and for someone who has been building through the draft for 2/3 of his tenure, MB has surely sucked at it. I think we are the worst draft/development team over the past decade and it’s hard to find another team close.

 

[webersshot]

None of them. I like this team were just weak on D in the absence of Weber, Eddy, and no price. Keep everyone. Draft high, find a top D

 

[GoodKiwi]

No one would even claim those guys on waivers, so forget about them having trade value

I'd even do all 3 + a promise they never come back

for

a glimmer of hope that this organization bounces back

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Based on contracts
#1 Chariot
#2 Lekhonen
#3 Kulak

Based on Value for a trade at the deadline
#1 Toffoli
#2 Chariot
#3 Petry
#4 Hoffman
#5 Drouin.