Salary Cap: Poll - Swayman Arbitration Result?

[DominicT]

A lot of people worried about "hard feelings" if this gets to a hearing and rightfully so. Especially when you have the numbers each side put forward in this case. And then I remembered this:



I still want to stay away from the process.

 

[bb74]

If it goes to arbitration it's the team's choice on whether its a one-year or two-year deal. Swayman has no option in the matter and neither does the arbitrator. That's the risk Swayman took when he filed.

Thanks, I thought it was the player not the team on term so appreciate the insight. In that case then definitely 3.5+ for Sway as the midpoint (IMO) between team and agent unless they can work something out over the weekend which would be my goal now for Sweens and Gold..

 

[DominicT]

Thanks, I thought it was the player not the team on term so appreciate the insight. In that case then definitely 3.5+ for Sway as the midpoint (IMO) between team and agent unless they can work something out over the weekend which would be my goal now for Sweens and Gold..

It depends on who files.

If the player files, the team gets the option. If the team files, the player gets the option.

 

[mouser]

I put 3 but I think it's going to be 3.25


Why would he get more?

The argument for Swayman getting more than Samsonov would be consistency, Swayman has back to back high end seasons, while Samsonov only has one.

Swayman’s production last season was similar to Samsonov with a few less games played. If you compare each players combined production over the past two or three season, Swayman has performed substantially better than Samsonov.

 

[JOKER 192]

The argument for Swayman getting more than Samsonov would be consistency, Swayman has back to back high end seasons, while Samsonov only has one.

Swayman’s production last season was similar to Samsonov with a few less games played. If you compare each players combined production over the past two or three season, Swayman has performed substantially better than Samsonov.

I could give you a half dozen arguments as to why he should get less but I've already given a few and I'm done with that. I see NO reason for Swayman to get more, I only see why he should get less.

 

[dugg133]

$3M, maybe slightly less than that. $4.8 is a comical ask for 1 year, IMO.
hopefully he gets $2M, the more cap space the better. there's no I in team.

there is a 0% chance he gets less then 3 mil based on his results over the past 2 years.

 

[bruinmann77]

i hope they are able to keep him

 

[Dellstrom]

Think they split the middle at 2 years, ~3.5m AAV. Really good value for us in those 2 years and gives Sway incentive to play well with the cap going up and Ullmark's deal being up in 2 years.

 

[DominicT]

The argument for Swayman getting more than Samsonov would be consistency, Swayman has back to back high end seasons, while Samsonov only has one.

Swayman’s production last season was similar to Samsonov with a few less games played. If you compare each players combined production over the past two or three season, Swayman has performed substantially better than Samsonov.

And apparently the same arbitrator will be conducting the Swayman hearing. That has to account for something provided the agent does his job.

 

[Blowfish]

So we should hear final result late Monday?

 

[DominicT]

So we should hear final result late Monday?

Tuesday.

 

[Blowfish]

Tuesday.

Big day today.

Sticking with my $4.15. Prospect Buffalo wings on me if I'm off by $0.75.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Big day today.

Sticking with my $4.15. Prospect Buffalo wings on me if I'm off by $0.75.

That would be a huge surprise and well off of what normally happens with arbitrators

 

[Blowfish]

That would be a huge surprise and well off of what normally happens with arbitrators

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There is no losing this bet. It's a win win win no matter what scenario.

Win 1 - likely forces a trade .. most likely one of the goalies .. and may speed up a center acquisition
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[AngryMilkcrates]

Big day today.

Sticking with my $4.15. Prospect Buffalo wings on me if I'm off by $0.75.

 

[Blowfish]

"for good Buffalo chicken wings - You don't go to friggin Buffalo" love that quote.

He's right and wrong ... IMO boils down to the pub with atmosphere. If the place in Buffalo is modern, don't go. If the place is run down, it's the right place. LOL.

 

[DominicT]

Big day today.

Sticking with my $4.15. Prospect Buffalo wings on me if I'm off by $0.75.

I hope that 75 cents and not 750k cuz that's giving yourself a huge spread.

I'm going 3.475 million.

 

[yazmybaby]

If it goes to arbitration it's the team's choice on whether its a one-year or two-year deal. Swayman has no option in the matter and neither does the arbitrator. That's the risk Swayman took when he filed.

Its a no brainer for the Bruins to sign him for two years. How does the process of a NTC or MNTC work in this case? Does Swaymann have the right to be granted this?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Its a no brainer for the Bruins to sign him for two years. How does the process of a NTC or MNTC work in this case? Does Swaymann have the right to be granted this?

No, too young

 

[yazmybaby]

I hope that 75 cents and not 750k cuz that's giving yourself a huge spread.

I'm going 3.475 million.

Flip Gustavsson recently signed for 3.75M AAV 3 year deal. I am going tp predict the Bruins sign Swayze for 3M in year one and 4M in year for a 3.5M AAV. They have very comparable stats.

 

[BruinDust]

Flip Gustavsson recently signed for 3.75M AAV 3 year deal. I am going tp predict the Bruins sign Swayze for 3M in year one and 4M in year for a 3.5M AAV. They have very comparable stats.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Flip Gustavsson recently signed for 3.75M AAV 3 year deal. I am going tp predict the Bruins sign Swayze for 3M in year one and 4M in year for a 3.5M AAV. They have very comparable stats.

It’s up to the arbitrator now - Bruins and Sway can’t negotiate a deal any more.

 

[PlayMakers]

Only $3.1m in cap space left for Swayman. This is going to be tight.

 

[mar2kbos]

Only $3.1m in cap space left for Swayman. This is going to be tight.

It is puke worthy, we lose Hall, Bergeron, Bertuzzi, Orlov, Nosek, most likely Krejci, and STILL will be against the cap. Granted there is a lot of 1 year deals so its not an on going problem, but still feels like they lost a lot without gaining much wiggle room. It also makes it harder if a rookie(s) surprises at camp and there isnt enough cap space to keep them up. Swayman deal depending on award will probably have to trade another player to, and even if he comes in under 3.1mil it wont be much under that, so that probably is most likely a definitely. Think one of Forbort or Grez will need to be moved. I'd say Forbort but I just dont think there is a market for him where there probably is for Grez.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It is puke worthy, we lose Hall, Bergeron, Bertuzzi, Orlov, Nosek, most likely Krejci, and STILL will be against the cap. Granted there is a lot of 1 year deals so its not an on going problem, but still feels like they lost a lot without gaining much wiggle room. It also makes it harder if a rookie(s) surprises at camp and there isnt enough cap space to keep them up. Swayman deal depending on award will probably have to trade another player to, and even if he comes in under 3.1mil it wont be much under that, so that probably is most likely a definitely. Think one of Forbort or Grez will need to be moved. I'd say Forbort but I just dont think there is a market for him where there probably is for Grez.

A rookie would take the spot of someone else, so there’s always room. Swayman won’t come in that low. Can get there with a 22 man roster which is pretty normal now.