Point is that if rosters like that can go on a run - whatever you think of the Leafs roster as constructed - it's not lightyears away as some would have you believe.
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Point is that if rosters like that can go on a run - whatever you think of the Leafs roster as constructed - it's not lightyears away as some would have you believe.
Its not light years away. Thise runs you speak off were easy to make every team would never make any improvements or drastic changes
The backbone of any of those runs including St Louis few years ago was goaltending
Something it seems we will never fix. Our goaltending hasn't been top tier since maybe Belfour days
You can front load all with talent. Oilers early 2010s had young talent. They didn't have a goalie
Jonathan quick took a 8th seeded playoff team to stanly cup
Those runners as a team have something in common. They work their ass off. They fight and scratch and they get good goal tending
Something we don't have any of those. Very few a purely offensive team makes the finals
Goaltending is inherently extremely random year to year though. Price has been awful for multiple years and then went on a monster run. Khudobin was the goalie that took DAL on their run...
Also - purely offensive team? This leafs team's biggest issue was their lack of offense. Once they added Brodie - their D has been great and their defensive metrics are really strong - top 10. Biggest issue right now is depth scoring and the powerplay.
I would argue those numbers are significantly deflated
Our D got better with Brodie but really isn't good enough
We played 18 games against offense challenged teams in Ottawa and Habs. Not to mention Patterson less Canucks and Winnipeg that missing Laine
Our D metrics look much better than where it needs to be
Next year that won't be case. We are going to face barkov, kuch , Panarin, Pstarnak, merchant and others
Our North division except for McDavid and drai didn't have much offensive challenge for us
Our goalies numbers looks much better for the same reason. Another reason why I am not sold on our goalies especially Campbell
Yea, I get it. Even the other years, after Game 7 losses it's pretty hard to intentionally step back.
That said, they better decide on Reilly quickly, because no one thinks they're Cup contenders this season.
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yes...and the Leafs didn't.
I'm willing to give them a pass on losing Hyman, because this was definitely the season to take a shot. The other seasons? Probably should have moved a couple of the pending ufa's
who are these imaginary UFA we had available for trade since dubas took over ?
according to wiki he took over summer 2018 ... jvr and bozak left that year and i could not find 1 pending UFA since that left ............
Are people just making shit up or if google wrong ?
With minimal effort, google returned Hainsey & Gardiner. Not going to bother looking further.
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Tomas Tatar played in only 5 of Montreal's 22 playoff games and was a healthy scratch throughout almost the entire playoffs, including against our Leafs so Habs could play their own kids instead.
Hopefully Dubas noticed that Tatar was up in the team pressbox, where he was during the Leafs/Canadiens playoff round.
Shouldn't our Leafs be looking for players that can put them over the top in the playoffs as opposed to sit in the pressbox come playoff time?
I'd personally be looking for playoff warriors not playoff watchers.
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maybe it’s rosters like that, that are more successful in the playoffs.
ours certainly hasn’t been.
seriously these are the 2 guys people are complaining about ?
sure makes sence lets go into the playoffs with ozighanov in our top 4, that will work wonders.
First there weren't any. Once proven wrong, we move to the rationalization phase.
its that how these board work ?lol
either way only fringe or non playoff teams ever sell assets ... what exactly are people expecting ? you cant play hindsight 20-20 3 years later when the team is in the mix.
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The Leafs stopped selling free agent assets the summer they drafted Matthews. A consistent trend from one management group to the next
Certainly debatable in hindsight, though seems hardly outside of the norm for most NHL teams.
Certainly debatable in hindsight, though seems hardly outside of the norm for most NHL teams.
not that though considering it almost never happens
i mean i think the leafs can cope without him so i would trade him but you run into 3 problems.
1- non contending teams wont trade for a UFA.
2- most contending teams have no cap at the start of the season for this trade. So are you taking back a 2 to 3 mil contract which negates the whole point of the trade which was to gain cap for a winger.
3- your not getting a top 4 guy back so you need to be 100% sure sandin is ready to go .
either way this isnt ever happening, leafs will easily be top 3 in division heading into this years trade deadline and wont be trading him.
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not that though considering it almost never happens
i mean i think the leafs can cope without him so i would trade him but you run into 3 problems.
1- non contending teams wont trade for a UFA.
2- most contending teams have no cap at the start of the season for this trade. So are you taking back a 2 to 3 mil contract which negates the whole point of the trade which was to gain cap for a winger.
3- your not getting a top 4 guy back so you need to be 100% sure sandin is ready to go .
either way this isnt ever happening, leafs will easily be top 3 in division heading into this years trade deadline and wont be trading him.
If I know I can't sign him or I want to move on, I move him yesterday after seeing what CBJ got in return for Jones. A package of a young dman (Drysdale/Byram/Sanderson + a $1st) would do it for me.
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Oilers picked up the Top scoring D man in the league as a UFA Tyson Barrie, who the Leafs kept as an own rental even though it was obvious they were too crappy to win a cup....
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
why would a rebuilding team trade their coveted defensive prospect ??
as for byram i dont see colorado pulling the trigger. They need the cost effective ELC contracts come next year
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56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
To get a young, established top 2 dman ? Stan Bowman just included Boqvist in the package for Jones.
because jones is like a top 10 dman in the league and does everything. hes 25 and signed for 8 years which needed the whole sign and trade thing from CBJ.
none of those are true for reilly.
