Player Grades - What went right?

[Semak]

No grades, pass/fail.

Pass: Schneider, Jagr, Elias, Zajac, Henrique, Zids, Gio(not his fault he's over used), Clowe(when healty), Greene, Fayne, Gelinas(not his fault he's not getting good coaching), Volchenkov, Merrill.

Fail: The rest.

Incomplete: Josefson, Boucher, Larsson.

 

[Devils Trap]

Since we have plenty of time this offseason, how about a player poll that runs for 2 days per player, keeping it simple, Keep or Move

Mods, good idea?

As in Best players this season ??? Ranking system ??

Ill start it up

 

[devilsblood]

60 PIMS isn't too crazy. He's not exactly Verbeek or Dano out there. We took the second least penalties in the league and Marek wasn't even top 50 in the league in PIMs.

He's 113th

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....L&viewName=penalties&sort=penaltyMinutes&pg=4

You take a carbon copy of this season every year.

And Zid's plays with some grit too. He's not some soft offensive d-man. If someone is taking liberties with another player he is up in there. Him grabbing up Zuccarello early in the year might be the highlight of the year imo. So a fair amount of those penalties are good one's.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Jagr A
Zajac B
Zubrus D+
Ruutu C+
Clowe C+
Henrique B
Elias B-
Brunner D
Ryder F
Bernier F
Carter C
Gionta C-
Josefson C
Boucher C+
Sestito D
Sislo C-
Olescz F
Loktionov B-

Greene A-
Zidlicky B
Fayne C+
Gelinas B-
Merrill B-
Larsson B
Salvador F+
Volchenkov C-
Harrold D+

Schneider A-
Brodeur C

Pete: F
Barr: B
Scotty: C+
Terreri: C

Lou: D+
Conte: D

 

[NC107*]

Jagr: A+
Elias: A-
Zajac: B+
Clowe C+
Henrique: B+
Carter: B-
Zubrus: C
Brunner: D+
Ruutu: Incomplete
Josefson: Incomplete
Gionta: C
Ryder: D-
Bernier: F
Sestito, Janssen, Sislo, Whitney: Who gives a ****

Greene: A+
Fayne: B
Zidlicky: B+
Merrill: C+
Larsson: Incomplete
Gelinas: C-
Volchenkov: C+
Harrold: D
Salvador: F

Schneider: B+
Brodeur: C-

 

[glenwo2]

Since we have plenty of time this offseason, how about a player poll that runs for 2 days per player, keeping it simple, Keep or Move

Mods, good idea?

No because then this board would become cluttered.

But then again, I'm just a HFBoard poster.

 

[Devils Dominion]

No because then this board would become cluttered.

But then again, I'm just a HFBoard poster.

That makes no sense, it would not make things "cluttered".

One player for 2 days, then on to the next player.
Same thread.

 

[glenwo2]

That makes no sense, it would not make things "cluttered".

One player for 2 days, then on to the next player.
Same thread.

Doesn't matter what I say anyway since the 1st Player thread was recently created.

Moot Point is Moot.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

So many As and Bs for a team that was eliminated with several games left

Here's my attempt:

Jagr: A
Elias: B
Henrique: B-
Clowe: C+
Zajac: C
Carter: C
Gionta: C-
Zubrus: D
Brunner: D
Loktinov: D
Josefson: D
Bernier: D
Loktionov: D
Ryder: F
Olescz: F
Tedenby: F

Ruttu: inc
Boucher: inc

Greene: A-
Zidlicky: B+
Fayne: B
Merrill: B-
Gelinas: C
Volchenkov: C-
Salvador: D
Harrold: D

Larsson: inc

Schneider: B+
Brodeur: C

 

[R8Devs]

Jagr: A
Elias:A-
Zajac:B-
Clowe:C+
Henrique:C+(C for first half, B for second)
Ryder: D+(B for the first half, F for second)
Bernier: D-
Carter:C
Gionta: D+
Josefson:inc(for the games played but if I count the games where he got good linemates C+)
Boucher:inc
Ruutu:inc(B-for the games he played so far)
Zubrus:C-
Brunner:C

Larsson:inc
Greene:B+
Zidlicky:B-
Fayne:B-
Salvador: D
Volchenkov:C+
Gelinas:C+
Merrill:B-

Schneider:B+
Brodeur:C

Of course completely arbitrary because there isn't a scale but whatever

 

[Eggtimer]

Jagr - A+
Elias - B
Henrique - B+
Zajac - B+
Clowe - B
Zubrus - C
Ryder - D
Brunner - C+
Carter - B
Gionta - C
Bernier - F
Josefson/Ruutu/AHL Fodder/Boucher - Incomplete

Greene - A+
Fayne - B+
Zid - B
Gelinas - C+
Merrill - B+
Larsson - B (When he actually played)
Volch - C
Salvador - Z
Harrold - D

Cory - A
Marty - C

Agree with everything but give Volch a C+
I would say he is the most improved player from last year (Zids a very close second)

He has zero hockey IQ on offence , but played much better than last year and seriously picked his game up last half of the season IMO.
I know he plays sheltered minutes and is most effective on the PK and from the hash marks down in our own zone , but he did the best with the tools he has.

He was decent positionaly compared to previous years where he got caught running around a lot.
He has a decent stick , never gives up , is fearless blocking shots and sacrificing his body to make a play. I think he is the type of player that does whatever he possibly can to win a hockey game.
He is not the most skilled player in the world , but would block a point blank slapshot with his adams apple if it meant preventing a goal.

Not saying he is great overall, just think he deserves a little better grade due to his effort and improvement.

Call it a gratitude + on the C grade.

 

[DenisSamson3]

Most of these seem pretty accurate.

 

[John Pedro]

Jagr A +
Schneider B +
Clowe B
Henrique B
Ryder F
Brunner D
Elias B
Brodeur C -
Zubrus D
Zajac B+
Gionta C-
Carter C
Bernier F
Gelinas C +
Merrill B-
Salvador F
Greene A
Fayne B+
Volchenkov C
Harrold D
Zidlicky C

 

[Devils Dominion]

Bernier: F--

 

[Holtz My Bahls]

Zubrus: C- (Left much to be desired)
Gionta: C- (Works Hard every shift thats about it)
Brunner: C+ (Way to inconsistant)
Henrique: A- (Solid season)
Ruutu: C- ("He's our Goal Scorer")
Josefson: What's a Josefson?
Ryder: C- (He was solid in the first half but garbage
Bernier: F (See Bleedred)
Zajac: B+ (Turned it up down the stretch)
Carter: C (Meh)
Janssen: B (Considering his role, not bad)
Elias: B+ (Can't complain)
Clowe: B+ (Great when healthy)
Jagr: A+ (Carried the team)

Zidlicky: A (Fantastic season for Zids)
Larsson: B (Seriously he played well the few games he got to play.)
Greene: B+(Went silent and was sloppy after Olympic Break)
Fayne: B- (Good for the most part)
Harrold: C (Really don't get why he's here but whatever)
Gelinas: B+ (Solid Rookie season, needs to work on defense aka needs to play more)
Salvador: F (Retire please)
Volchenkov: D (Had maybe 4-5 good games)
Merrill: B+ (Shaky at times, but overall impressive)

Brodeur: C (He isn't getting any younger)
Schneider: A (Schneider was excellent for the most part)

 

[billingtons ghost]

Ha. I love this goofy crap.

Jagr A+
Zajac B- (playing next to Jagr, all year, and you score less than 50 points- that's hard, even if you bring the defensive intangibles)
Zubrus D+
Ruutu INC
Clowe D (I love the 'if healthy' argument. If Pelle Lindburg was still healthy he'd get an A. This guy was supposed to be a 15-20 goal scorer with grit. THHPPPT)
Henrique B+
Elias B
Brunner C-
Ryder D
Bernier F
Carter C+
Gionta C-
Josefson INC

Greene A
Zidlicky A (exceeded all expectations in my book - his goals were big goals too)
Fayne B
Gelinas C+
Merrill B-
Larsson INC
Salvador F-
Volchenkov C (compared to last year when every game was a bad game... I can't even think of more than one bad game this year. that said - would be a great 7th Dman, and that shouldn't be at his pricetag)
Harrold D

Schneider B+
Brodeur B (had 3 more wins in 4 fewer starts at his ripe age. don't know how anyone can give him crap. What, should he have won 30 with the same terrible offense and bad defense that Cory got?)

 

[Bleedred]

Come on BG, clowe was a good player for us this season when he was actually playing. His PPG is good enough to justify his salary. His health however, may not be. It is concerning that the guy can't keep away from getting concussions.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Clowe was on a 50 point pace when he was healthy.

 

[John Iadevaia]

Jagr A+
Zajac A- Finished strong. Confident he will hit 20g next season
Clowe B when healthy

Elias B+
Henrique A- Good bounce back year. Starting to come of age
Brunner C-

Zubrus C- He was not his best in the second half of the season
Ryder D- Too streaky but wouldn't mind if he stayed
Ruutu incomplete

Gionta C
Bernier F Don't know what happened to him, but was more of a detriment at times
Carter B+ Really liked him this season and hope he gets a new contract

Greene A+
Fayne A-
Zidlicky B His pros outweigh his cons (imo) but will understand if they decide to move on
Gelinas C He can replace Zid but needs to work on defense this offseason
Merrill B+ Felt he was the team's second best defenseman in the second half

Volchenkov C+ He played well but with the youngsters looking for spots, he might become the casualty in this
Salvador D Tough season for him. We shall see if he gets bought out or not

Harrold D+
Larsson incomplete

Schneider A PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!
Brodeur C

 

[billingtons ghost]

Come on BG, clowe was a good player for us this season when he was actually playing. His PPG is good enough to justify his salary. His health however, may not be. It is concerning that the guy can't keep away from getting concussions.

dude, I'm completely with you if there wasn't a prior history, and the guy's biggest question mark wasn't his health to begin with- and the fact that 50% of the reason for him being here is his grit.

Are the grades for effort, or effectiveness? I give Clowe and Gionta an A for effort, and C- or D for effectiveness.

If hypothetically, Niedermayer blew a knee in 99 or something, and it became CHRONIC and he couldn't skate well - would you be giving him an A?

Cam and others were on point-a-game paces at some point too - and Clowe showed nice hands - but how you get 26 points in 43 games == "a point a game pace" I'll never know.

Did he fail to live up to his contract and what this team needed from him? Look at Brunner - only played about 10 more games and had the same points - and compare the two guys' grades...

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Jagr A+
Zajac A- Finished strong. Confident he will hit 20g next season
Clowe B when healthy

Elias B+
Henrique A- Good bounce back year. Starting to come of age
Brunner C-

Zubrus C- He was not his best in the second half of the season
Ryder D- Too streaky but wouldn't mind if he stayed
Ruutu incomplete

Gionta C
Bernier F Don't know what happened to him, but was more of a detriment at times
Carter B+ Really liked him this season and hope he gets a new contract

Greene A+
Fayne A-
Zidlicky B His pros outweigh his cons (imo) but will understand if they decide to move on
Gelinas C He can replace Zid but needs to work on defense this offseason
Merrill B+ Felt he was the team's second best defenseman in the second half

Volchenkov C+ He played well but with the youngsters looking for spots, he might become the casualty in this
Salvador D Tough season for him. We shall see if he gets bought out or not

Harrold D+
Larsson incomplete

Schneider A PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!
Brodeur C

Not to pick on you, because I've seen it from other posters too. But so many As and Bs for a team that missed the playoffs.

 

[Chessarmy]

Missed the playoffs, everyone in the organization gets an F

 

[Devils86]

Jagr A+
Zajac C
Zubrus D+
Ruutu C
Clowe C...part of the grade is staying on the ice
Henrique B
Elias C+ Father time is catching up
Brunner C-
Ryder D
BernierC
Carter C+
Gionta B-- gets the most out of his talent
Josefson C didnt do enough to get in the lineup

Greene A
Zidlicky A-
Fayne B
Gelinas A-/D...Offense/Defense
Merrill B+...Huge Huge strides
Larsson C..Frustrations on both sides very obvious
Salvador C- Not a hater most are
Volchenkov C-
Harrold C

Schneider B+
Brodeur D+

Pete..B- Kept a very flawed team in contention. If you read some stuff out now alot of the lineup selections were not his.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Jagr A+
Zajac C
Zubrus D+
Ruutu C
Clowe C...part of the grade is staying on the ice
Henrique B
Elias C+ Father time is catching up
Brunner C-
Ryder D
BernierC
Carter C+
Gionta B-- gets the most out of his talent
Josefson C didnt do enough to get in the lineup

Greene A
Zidlicky A-
Fayne B
Gelinas A-/D...Offense/Defense
Merrill B+...Huge Huge strides
Larsson C..Frustrations on both sides very obvious
Salvador C- Not a hater most are
Volchenkov C-
Harrold C

Schneider B+
Brodeur D+

Pete..B- Kept a very flawed team in contention. If you read some stuff out now alot of the lineup selections were not his.

Bernier gets a grade just under Patty?

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Elias had 53 points in 65 games. Yup, father time is definitely calling his name.