GWT: PL Matchweek (mostly) 27

[JeffreyLFC]

Players playing too frequently due to injuries. They have no energy.

Bullshit excuse.

They have been MIA for months. The players are there they are just not there mentaly. They don't compete, they are not fluid, they always do the same tactics and they are creating awful turnovers into goals.

That is on Klopp and obviously the player like Mane/Firmino that needs to execute better.

 

[Blender]

I'm happy with the win, good stuff.

Game went exactly how I said it would, 1 goal game where there was a lot of passing but not nearly attacking enough to be considered an exciting encounter. Difference between this one and the Manchester United game is that Mount pulled off a great goal from distance. I still think our stature is too big to be resorting to tactics like this to scrape points.

 

[AB13]

This cheesy hoofball would cause The Arsenal 0 problems. We need to beat Liverpool at Anfield next month. No excuses.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I'm happy with the win, good stuff.

Game went exactly how I said it would, 1 goal game where there was a lot of passing but not nearly attacking enough to be considered an exciting encounter. Difference between this one and the Manchester United game is that Mount pulled off a great goal from distance. I still think our stature is too big to be resorting to tactics like this to scrape points.

Eh, this felt very different from earlier ones under Tuchel. We created a pretty solid amount of chances, and with each passing match we've been creating more and more. I think this could be a good harbinger.

 

[Chimaera]

The ideas are also getting stale. Whether injuries are part of it or not. When your fullbacks are your offense and they can’t do it, they don’t have options.

Firmino is done. I also suspect one of Mane or Salah have decided they’re going. Going to be interesting.

 

[AB13]

I'm happy with the win, good stuff.

Game went exactly how I said it would, 1 goal game where there was a lot of passing but not nearly attacking enough to be considered an exciting encounter. Difference between this one and the Manchester United game is that Mount pulled off a great goal from distance. I still think our stature is too big to be resorting to tactics like this to scrape points.

You not happy with risk minimizing tactics? Litteraly all Chelsea sucess I can think of besides one season under Ancelotti is built on that. Thought you would enjoy it

 

[Live in the Now]

Bullshit excuse.

They have been MIA for months. The players are there they are just not there mentaly. They don't compete, they are not fluid, they always do the same tactics and they are creating awful turnovers into goals.

That is on Klopp and obviously the player like Mane/Firmino that needs to execute better.

Counting internationals Firmino has played 40 games in less than 5 months. He has barely any backup. Usually takes 9 months for a player to play that much. Isn't too difficult to figure out what the problem is unless you just want to be ignorant.

Yes some other players are playing that much too. Werner being one of them. I can only imagine why Werner looks like shit.

 

[Savant]

Arsenal gonna finish higher than Liverpool rofl

I mean Arsenal have no excuse to be bad at least.

 

[Prntscrn]

I count 12 points for Liverpool in their 14 last Premier League games. Majestic stuff

 

[AB13]

The ideas are also getting stale. Whether injuries are part of it or not. When your fullbacks are your offense and they can’t do it, they don’t have options.

Firmino is done. I also suspect one of Mane or Salah have decided they’re going. Going to be interesting.

Liverpool won't miss Salah when he's gone because of Harvey Elliot. He obviously isn't on that level but he's a top player. Gerrard for Klopp. Elliot for Salah. Freshen it up.

 

[Prntscrn]

I mean Arsenal have no excuse to be bad at least.

Liverpool have no excuse to be this bad. It's not even the defending that is the biggest problem in this team anymore

 

[Live in the Now]

Nobody's getting rid of Klopp

 

[Blender]

You not happy with risk minimizing tactics? Litteraly all Chelsea sucess I can think of besides one season under Ancelotti is built on that. Thought you would enjoy it

Playing defensive football with direct counter-attacking I have no problem with it. I loved the Conte teams especially for that, and we were still very defensive, but when we had the ball we would play a fast vertical attacking game trying to catch teams up field on the counter. These Tuchel tactics are very defensive when we don't have the ball and extremely passive when we do.

It's more like Sarri-ball than anything, and it's pretty dull to watch.

 

[Peen]

Eh, this felt very different from earlier ones under Tuchel. We created a pretty solid amount of chances, and with each passing match we've been creating more and more. I think this could be a good harbinger.

Agree that this was the best we’ve seen yet

I still don’t see us scoring from open play without Mount creating against Atleti

 

[Peen]

Playing defensive football with direct counter-attacking I have no problem with it. I loved the Conte teams especially for that, and we were still very defensive, but when we had the ball we would play a fast vertical attacking game trying to catch teams up field on the counter. These Tuchel tactics are very defensive when we don't have the ball and extremely passive when we do.

Conte was the best man

miss that guy

 

[AB13]

Nobody's getting rid of Klopp

Not in the short term. But in a couple seasons, that might be necessary. Gerrard is a great manager and perfect replacement

 

[Halladay]

This cheesy hoofball would cause The Arsenal 0 problems. We need to beat Liverpool at Anfield next month. No excuses.

They already played at Anfield.

 

[Machinehead]

Bullshit excuse.

They have been MIA for months. The players are there they are just not there mentaly. They don't compete, they are not fluid, they always do the same tactics and they are creating awful turnovers into goals.

That is on Klopp and obviously the player like Mane/Firmino that needs to execute better.

Right, like, how long do we keep using the burnout excuse when nobody has broken a sweat since early December?

I get the excuses for being a mid-table, inconsistent side. This is, right now, the 17th or 18th best team in the league that has taken most of the season off.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Conte was the best man

miss that guy

His first season is probably the most fun I've had as a Chelsea fan, and his second is probably the most consistently irritated I've been as a Chelsea fan hahaha

 

[AB13]

Playing defensive football with direct counter-attacking I have no problem with it. I loved the Conte teams especially for that, and we were still very defensive, but when we had the ball we would play a fast vertical attacking game trying to catch teams up field on the counter. These Tuchel tactics are very defensive when we don't have the ball and extremely passive when we do
It's more like Sarri-ball than anything, and it's pretty dull to watch.

I agree about Tuchel. That is why I don’t think he will be a long term sucess. Players will eventually get fed up of negative football.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Love knowing, thanks to Mason, that Zouma is an anime guy

 

[Chimaera]

Nobody's getting rid of Klopp

I agree. Yet, I will say, at some point, if it gets really bad, he’s going to want a break. It’s not completely there, but it’s close.

the compacted schedule, the death in the family, the obvious rebuild or retooling (whatever you want to call it), and what has clearly been a draining period for him, makes me feel there’s a chance he does not want to do the job. It was easy to extend when it was riding high. Now? He might rethink it. Especially if money is tight or he has to sell to buy, or whatever nonsense

Obviously, Liverpool let him stay as long as he wants (to an extent), but there is a world where they aren’t begging him to stay either.

 

[Blender]

Eh, this felt very different from earlier ones under Tuchel. We created a pretty solid amount of chances, and with each passing match we've been creating more and more. I think this could be a good harbinger.

I think we've been better today, but are still not playing to the strengths of our best players. Tuchel's press conference after the Manchester United game really pissed me off as well for the insight as to what he was trying to accomplish, a lot of comments about using his attacking players to play defense first and worry about attacking second.

 

[Live in the Now]

Right, like, how long do we keep using the burnout excuse when nobody has broken a sweat since early December?

I get the excuses for being a mid-table, inconsistent side. This is, right now, the 17th or 18th best team in the league that has taken most of the season off.

The team is 12th in goals allowed. 2nd in xG. Only five teams have kept less clean sheets than Liverpool. I also count only three forwards in the entire league that have played more than Firmino and Salah. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what these stats mean.

The players have been driven into the ground, they're getting chances and they can't finish them, and the defense leaks goals like a sieve because our best player isn't there. That about sums it up. And until van Dijk returns everyone should expect this to continue. That is just how it is.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

6 months people claimed pep should be fired... klopp needs like 3 seasons before anyone should suggest this.