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I’m not saying that I would rather have Matip than Laporte, but I think Laporte is overrated and Matip is underrated. Laporte isn’t an automatic just because he is the best CB on City. He doesn’t usually have to defend very often. Rudiger’s game is based on athleticism and he is coming back from a BAD injury. I don’t think he will have a better season than Matip.
 
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Soyuncu is a huge reason why Leicester have currently given up so few goals so far.
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They have the same mid and defense, they only swapped Maguire for Soyuncu and their defense is immensely better.

What does it say about Maguire/Soyuncu?
 

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"On form", Diop is easily in the conversation. He isn't insulated the way he would be on Liverpool/Tottenham either.
 
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Cassano said:
They have the same mid and defense, they only swapped Maguire for Soyuncu and their defense is immensely better.

What does it say about Maguire/Soyuncu?
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Last year through 6 games Leicester had 7.29 xGA compared to 5.58 this year
Last year through 6 games United had 8.58 xGA compared to 3.84 this year
 
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Savant said:
On form he is currently better than the Tottenham players, and on form he is currently better than the injured players. So yes.
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I mean, on form he is currently better in that they have no form because they are injured. It's like saying that on form Kasper Schmeichel is better than Alisson because Schmeichel is currently playing. Matip is great and does a good job at what he's assigned to do, but this is silly.

Laporte is easily better than Matip. I would say Rudiger has been comfortably better the past two seasons. Both of Alderweireld and Vertonghen are better than he is. He's a very good CB and he's off to a good start this year (although the timing of this point is weird considering he was kinda meh yesterday), but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
 
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Not sure to put this here or in the hot takes thread. AB is going to go insane.
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He’s also been featured on a few PL team of week lists I’ve seen. I didn’t watch this Arsenal week but I always felt he’s still getting his feet u set him. A young kid with loads of potential working out some kinks and inconsistencies in his game. Should get a confidence boost from this latest performance.
 
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Wee Baby Seamus said:
I mean, on form he is currently better in that they have no form because they are injured. It's like saying that on form Kasper Schmeichel is better than Alisson because Schmeichel is currently playing. Matip is great and does a good job at what he's assigned to do, but this is silly.

Laporte is easily better than Matip. I would say Rudiger has been comfortably better the past two seasons. Both of Alderweireld and Vertonghen are better than he is. He's a very good CB and he's off to a good start this year (although the timing of this point is weird considering he was kinda meh yesterday), but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Was really impressed with Tomori yesterday
 
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Matip has done well for the most part (he's had some rough games this season, not sure how anyone could tout him as the 2nd best CB in the league). Gomez is better than Matip and will replace him sooner than later.
 
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Maguire is merely a good player is what it says. Also an enormous waste of money.
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I’m not sure any honest United fans would disagree with that.

He’s a big improvement on what we had, although that's far more a comment on who is behind him on the depth chart than it is on him.

United could have, and should have, found a player of his caliber available for maybe 1/3 the price.
 
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Matip has done well for the most part (he's had some rough games this season, not sure how anyone could tout him as the 2nd best CB in the league). Gomez is better than Matip and will replace him sooner than later.
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:laugh:
 
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I’m not sure any honest United fans would disagree with that.

He’s a big improvement on what we had, although that's far more a comment on who is behind him on the depth chart than it is on him.

United could have, and should have, found a player of his caliber available for maybe 1/3 the price.
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It's also a bit hard to judge. There is no doubt whatsoever that Ole is not a very good manager. For all we know he will be replaced and Maguire will be very good or great. Like for example the way VVD played with Puel, then played only very good with Pellegrino, and now top class.
 
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Savant said:
On form he is currently better than the Tottenham players, and on form he is currently better than the injured players. So yes.
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That's like your opinion, man.
Matip is not better than Laporte or Tobi.
Playing next to VVD makes him look a better player than he is, too. Anyways, it was a good signing
 
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Matip has never played at the level that Gomez did before his injury last season. Which he was replicating at the international level (before people chime in with the van Dijk effect, even though Gomez was more impressive than van Dijk in many of those games). I can’t wait for that partnership to resume; they complement each other very well.
 
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Live in the Now said:
It's also a bit hard to judge. There is no doubt whatsoever that Ole is not a very good manager. For all we know he will be replaced and Maguire will be very good or great. Like for example the way VVD played with Puel, then played only very good with Pellegrino, and now top class.
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Come now, I’ve read repeatedly (and been given crap for it) that Ole is a good manager and more than prepared to run that club.
 
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