GWT: PL Matchweek 5

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  1. S E P H @SEPH_WHL

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    I dislike Liverpool, but as a neutral footballing fan I must say that their third goal was fantastic to watch.

    He's not a good passer or playmaker, he has some fluke plays where he's able to actually think about lining up a dangerous ball, but they're few and far between.

    Honestly the only skill he brings for us in the middle of the park is his long distance shooting which he might score once every ten or so matches.
     
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    our captain "We have to be happy to take a point..."
     
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    I'm not going to crap on Guendouzi as a player, as he had a cracker of a game 2 weeks ago, but he was struggling this game off the get go.
    the manager should've took note of this and made the adjustments sooner, especially at half time.
    Pepe is regressing under emery.....as he looked awful today, and provided nothing.
    Arsenal was the wrong choice for him to progress his footballing ability.
     
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    Would Ramos really be an improvement defensively?
     
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    31 shots coming from Watford is far too many to allow. Well its too many in any game, especial terrible against Watford.
     
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    You're really underselling his passing ability. When he's not under pressure he's one of the best passers in the league. The problem is he make's careless mistakes when he is under pressure with the ball or defending.

    I think I've said it before, but it's maddening to watch Xhaka make a perfect diagonal pass to our winger/fullback and then in the same sequence he gets caught in possession easily or flubs a sideways pass to his midfield partner under pressure.
     
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    Xhaka is a great orchestrator going forward. The way he strikes the ball is just so clean, I honestly love watching it.

    I do not however love watching him make rash challenges or have mental lapses in coverage, etc.
     
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    Yeah I gotta disagree with that @KJS14 , I don't think there was ever a time where I thought he was an amazing playmaker. Like if we were to compare him to a natural playmaker such as Ozil is, he doesn't come close to him and this is Mesut Ozil we're talking about here and not de Bruyne. Majority of Xhaka's passes are low-based passes that are either to one of the two CBs due to wanting to play from the back. Or a low-percentage lateral pass to a bad location for one of the other midfielders, who are constantly put under pressure because it's so easy to read where Xhaka is passing the ball.

    I would consider his great passes - which I admit he does have some - more as flukes or rare occurrences than a natural ability or strength. Just too chaotic or inconsistent to say he's a great playmaker.
     
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    I'd say its actually a lot of natural ability, but he doesn't read the game quick enough to be a great deep-lying playmaker. The derby against Spurs was a great example of his ability to distribute the ball when he has time and space. Unfortunately it was also a great example of his shortcomings - press resistance, defending, and committing dumb fouls.
     
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    You have maybe 2 world class players...
     
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    Leno, Aubameyang, Pepe, Lacazette, Özil, Torriera, Ceballos and possibly Bellerin are all world class under a proper manager.
     
  12. Duchene2MacKinnon Dybalascibar

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    No, yes, not yet,maybe, not anymore, no, not yet and lol no.
     
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    The fact that you said maybe for Lacazette makes you lose all credibility. Lacazette is miles ahead of Dybala and it isn’t even close by the way.
     
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    Not sure what dybala hasn’t to do with this but laca has 27 goals in 2 seasons for arsenal... that is hardly world class. The rest of your post is hilarious as per.
     
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    Lacazette has been injured for large parts of both seasons, a very good assist record and has a good goals per minute ratio. Lacazette brings a lot more than goals though, his link up play is one of the best in the world. His work ethic, creativity and hold up play is unparralelled in the Premier League besides Firmino. Would you call Firmino world class? Lacazette does exactly what Firmino does well possibly to a slightly lesser extent, while scoring and assisting more, it is no coincidence that our offense is so incredibly reliant on him.

    To respond to the last part, Lacazette is almost as creative as Dybala while being a lot more well rounded and a far better goalscorer. Dybala is a slightly better playmaker and dribbler, although Laca is world class in that aspect too, but besides that Laca heavily outperforms him at absolutely every thing imaginable. Lacazette is also a consistent performer who doesn’t go invisible every other game like Dybala.
     
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    Lacazette is still not close to Firmino. He isn’t better than Dybala either.
     
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    The only reason Firmino scores less than Lacazette is because we have much better players on our team to do the scoring than Lacazette does.
     
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    Too good for Emery.

    Too good for Europa.

    Too offensively prolific to stop scoring, even in your own net.
     
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    Weird reasoning, Firmino plays in a team where he will get more goalscoring opportunities because the players are better. Firmino has scored far less than Lacazette everywhere at every level too. Both Lacazette and Firmino are not primarily on the pitch to score goals though.
     
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    I love this dude.

    His team gets played off the pitch by Watford and all he can talk about is how many world class players are being held back.

    Truly top quality posting.
     
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    This has aged funny.

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    Pretty sure I had already debunked this, even when Firmino is not close to being a primary goal scorer for Liverpool, but I see you’ve just ignored it and still say the same things that just aren’t true.
     
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    His long pass success % last year was 62. That is far too high to be fluke-like.
     

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