Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary cap: We need some wet wipes, there's a mess back there

[EightyOne]

Ok

Pro Strats here, boys....

We just witnessed a zamboni driver backstop a team to a win.

We always bitch that no name rookie goalies shut the Pens down.

Every other board says the same thing.

f*** paying Jarry or Murray $10mil.

Use 2 ECHL level guys at league minimum. Declare "injuries." Rotate through 41 other 'emergency' backups. Go 82-0 + 16-0.

And piss all over CHI and WSH lame ass cap circumvention schemes!

 

[Andy99]

Just stop with the bad players, JR....crikey...

 

[Allie Kitsune]

Just stop with the bad players, JR....crikey...

Can never have enough #8 D-Men... /sarc

 

[TheNorthPenguin]

It honestly shocks me after all the changes and admittance of mistakes that JR has made this season, that the names their linked to are the exact opposite.

If the Pitt media is to be believed and that Sully and JR are pissed about recent play, it shocks me they think the solution is the likes of Bogo/Simmonds/Thornton. Get back to what you were doing earlier in the season with speed and aggressiveness and that relentless pressure.

The only way I could somewhat entertain Bogo is if JR has a legit top 4 LD lined up and he moves Schultz for forward help. Then you can run a low minute bottom pair of Petts - Bogo/JJ.

 

[Andy99]

Can never have enough #8 D-Men... /sarc

he’ll be playing over the #6 and #7 D men...don’t you know it...look at Trotman...

 

[Allie Kitsune]

he’ll be playing over the #6 and #7 D men...don’t you know it...look at Trotman...

I wasn't saying how we'd use him.

I was saying what he is.

JR lurves him some #8 D-Men. And Sully will play them all #2-6.

 

[jay caufield forhead]

Between Hornqvist and Zucker idk what Simmonds is supposed to do but alright I guess. Hope JR is talking with Sully about this.

trade for simmons put him in press box until caps series inject him with rabies and first shift sick him on wilson.

 

[JTG]

Bogosian is not the way we should be going.

 

[Pens x]

What year is it? Bogo and Simmonds would have been nice 4 years ago.

Don’t go back to being stupid, JR.

 

[JTG]

Simmonds as a 4th liner I'm not completely against. He just cannot be overused.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Has Bogo become an FA, yet? If it’s a league minimum deal, he’s fine depth as a number 7 or 8 when Marino and Dumo are back.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

If it's grit he's looking for then he should go after guys like Foligno and Beaulieu. Guys that can actually play and be gritty, not some washed up has beens.

 

[JTG]

Has Bogo become an FA, yet? If it’s a league minimum deal, he’s fine depth as a number 7 or 8 when Marino and Dumo are back.

I was always a Bogo fan, especially because he is a big RH defenseman. He was playing too many mins the last few years in Buffalo, but even when they reduced his mins this year he was awful.

Imagine a JJ - Bogo bottom pair. Bring that pair up 7 years ago and people would call that a top pair. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

 

[JTG]

If it's grit he's looking for then he should go after guys like Foligno and Beaulieu. Guys that can actually play and be gritty, not some washed up has beens.

Both guys are the types JR should be going after...the issue is the cost. If the rumors are correct, we will be getting Simmonds for a 3rd rounder in 2021 and Bogo will cost nothing. The issue is that the moves are low risk, but low reward. Both players are spent where Beaulieu and Foligno could actually bring something more.

 

[KIRK]

Just stop with the bad players, JR....crikey...

Both guys are the types JR should be going after...the issue is the cost. If the rumors are correct, we will be getting Simmonds for a 3rd rounder in 2021 and Bogo will cost nothing. The issue is that the moves are low risk, but low reward. Both players are spent where Beaulieu and Foligno could actually bring something more.

Failure to acquire the latter should in no way influence interest in the former (I think we're on the same page on that).

 

[Tom Hanks]

Has Bogo become an FA, yet? If it’s a league minimum deal, he’s fine depth as a number 7 or 8 when Marino and Dumo are back.

He’s a FA right now. He just has to choose before 3pm EST tomorrow. He’s a UFA so he’ll probably pick a team where he’ll get the best chance to play.

 

[FreeBobbyFarnham]

Both guys are the types JR should be going after...the issue is the cost. If the rumors are correct, we will be getting Simmonds for a 3rd rounder in 2021 and Bogo will cost nothing. The issue is that the moves are low risk, but low reward. Both players are spent where Beaulieu and Foligno could actually bring something more.

I don't think Beaulieu would cost that much, but Foligno would probably cost a 2nd or a 3rd + prospect.

 

[KIRK]

So, let's see if I've got this right.

Step 1: JR fixes his mistakes.

Step 2: Profit.

Step 3: Get poised to **** it all up.

What became apparent, even during the highest of highs, is that there were some holes that needed to be filled. For example, we needed a scoring winger BEFORE Jake got hurt. Adding Zucker and losing Jake hasn't changed that. We had 3 good to great reliable defenseman, and from there was a big drop off that became exposed as guys got over slotted due to Dumo's and then Marino's injury.

So, JR is at a cross roads. Complete the equation or repeat the 'we won the cup but Tom Wilson was an ass clown' fiasco of the summer of '17.

The 'word' is hardly encouraging.

I still think the move is a top 6 winger and a partner for Marino. Set up Sid and Geno as best as you can to dictate and ride the **** out of your top 4.

 

[KIRK]

I don't think Beaulieu would cost that much, but Foligno would probably cost a 2nd or a 3rd + prospect.

Worth every penny of that, and I wouldn't bother with him in the bottom 6. I'd park him right on the LW of Geno and Rust.

Unfortunately, I think he costs a little more . . .

 

[Darren McCord]

Worth every penny of that, and I wouldn't bother with him in the bottom 6. I'd park him right on the LW of Geno and Rust.

Unfortunately, I think he costs a little more . . .

if foligno was coming here it would have made sense to expand the the zucker trade and get them both in one deal. He will cost to much on his own now.

 

[Tom Hanks]

To get Simmonds without retention we’d have to move someone paid more the McCann. It becomes very unrealistic at that point.

Bjugstad, Dumo, Tanev, Rust and JJ are the closest paid guys above McCann

 

[Andy99]

To get Simmonds without retention we’d have to move someone paid more the McCann. It becomes very unrealistic at that point.

Bjugstad, Dumo, Tanev, Rust and JJ are the closest paid guys above McCann

I’m sure NJ would retain if we’re overpaying a 3rd round pick for him...he’s not worth any payment because he’s really not a good hockey player anymore, but JR is five years behind the times...

 

[WayneSid9987]

To get Simmonds without retention we’d have to move someone paid more the McCann. It becomes very unrealistic at that point.

Bjugstad, Dumo, Tanev, Rust and JJ are the closest paid guys above McCann

Pretty positive NJ would eat half just to pick up an asset.

Foligno's basically way too expensive or untouchable.
Beaulieu seems like WPG likes him and they want to add more D vs subtract from it.

Simmond's has picked up his game some and isn't a total plug in my mind. Scored 2 and almost 3 a week ago and potted one vs WSH yesterday.

I think JR would get a top 6 option if he could but if the other end of the phone is saying, we want a prospect you really like(Legare, Hallander) + the pick, you are probably either a) waiting to see if prices drop while b) looking at lower options.
It is what it is...

 

[Andy99]

Pretty positive NJ would eat half just to pick up an asset.

Foligno's basically way too expensive or untouchable.
Beaulieu seems like WPG likes him and they want to add more D vs subtract from it.

Simmond's has picked up his game some and isn't a total plug in my mind. Scored 2 and almost 3 a week ago and potted one vs WSH yesterday.

I think JR would get a top 6 option if he could but if the other end of the phone is saying, we want a prospect you really like(Legare, Hallander) + the pick, you are probably either a) waiting to see if prices drop while b) looking at lower options.
It is what it is...

there are better “lower” options who fit our speed game more, like Names, Fast, Ennis, Smith perhaps, even Lewis, Thompson, etc...all of those options shouldn’t cost more than a 3rd either...

 

[xlm34]

I just can’t see why Bogosian would sign with a team where he wouldn’t be getting playing time which is what I’d hope would be the case with us.