Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread - Sign Beau Bennett

[Gurglesons]

So in the main boards you seem to think he's an established top ten RW but in here you think he's Cinderella.

I think he is a top ten RW in the league this year and last. That is exactly why I think we should get out of his contract, he's not a top ten RW moving forward and things will collapse.

 

[tom_servo]

I think he is a top ten RW in the league this year and last. That is exactly why I think we should get out of his contract.

What contract? And if he's established, does he not earn a raise? I think we're out clevering ourselves here.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

A team as barren in the pick/prospect pool as we are should probably start to think about cashing out on guys like Rust and Dumo before they fall off a cliff or are up for raises too rich for us. But I don't see the team doing it. They'd rather let those guys walk, imo, than to worry about cashing out and replacing them.

Though I do think Hyman's a really solid replacement. Not age-wise, but in terms of production and style. If you swap Rust for Hyman, I don't know that you'd really notice much of a difference and you'd get a nice return. But again, this team's not that cutthroat or forward thinking, and it won't happen, so this is all just kicking around ideas.

 

[Gurglesons]

What contract? And if he's established, does he not earn a raise? I think we're out clevering ourselves here.

He has earned it. Let him earn it with another team. Cash in and bring in the next Rust.

 

[tom_servo]

He has earned it. Let him earn it with another team. Cash in and bring in the next Rust.

Bring in the next Sid and Geno while you're at it!

 

[T1K]

He has earned it. Let him earn it with another team. Cash in and bring in the next Rust.

6x6.5 mil to live in AZ ain’t a bad life, you earned it Rusty.

 

[tom_servo]

I not really that afraid Rust will get a bank-breaking deal.

 

[Gurglesons]

Bring in the next Sid and Geno while you're at it!

Not sure how they are comparable tbh.

 

[Peat]

Bring in the next Sid and Geno while you're at it!

There's other Rusts you can get in free agency. There's not for Sid and Geno.

 

[tom_servo]

Not sure how they are comparable tbh.

Because at a certain point we're doing their last few seasons a disservice by ditching what works in favor of a better bargain elsewhere.

 

[cygnus47]

Someone asked and I explained? What are you 7?

 

[Gurglesons]

Because at a certain point we're doing their last few seasons a disservice by ditching what works in favor of a better bargain elsewhere.

Hypothetically my argument is to acquire a 1st, prospect along the lines of Kaut, and a UFA signing like Palmieri to replace Rust.

I'm not sure that is a bargain. I think that is hypothetically how you extend your window past one year which Hextall and Burke were hired to do.

All I see happening if we resign Rust is repeating what happened in 17-18 and 18-19 which was falling in love with your cup winning roster.

 

[tom_servo]

Hypothetically my argument is to acquire a 1st, prospect along the lines of Kaut, and a UFA signing like Palmieri to replace Rust.

I'm not sure that is a bargain. I think that is hypothetically how you extend your window past one year which Hextall and Burke were hired to do.

All I see happening if we resign Rust is repeating what happened in 17-18 and 18-19 which was falling in love with your cup winning roster.

Palmieri? How does putting older and worse players on the roster extend the window?

 

[Peat]

Palmieri? How does putting older and worse players on the roster extend the window?

Why do you reckon Palmieri is worse?

 

[tom_servo]

Why don't we just let Rust go to UFA then sign him later so it feels like we scored.

 

[tom_servo]

Why do you reckon Palmieri is worse?

Cause he's often hurt, he's 30, and his numbers are trending in a shitty direction? Kind of what everyone is afraid of with Rust?

 

[Gurglesons]

Cause he's often hurt, he's 30, and his numbers are trending in a shitty direction? Kind of what everyone is afraid of with Rust?

Do you take Palmieri at 3.5 for the next three years over Rust at 3.5 this year?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Palmieri may be regressing. No thx.

Injecting youth has done wonders for us this year. We're just faster all over the ice. Would like to continue with that approach.

We're virtually forced to let Petts or Ceci go. Let's say Ceci makes 3 mil next year and returns, we'd be looking at 29.1 mil allocated to the defense, compared to 23.8 mil this year. Way too much.

This is why we have Joseph, to lighten the drop-off.

 

[tom_servo]

Do you take Palmieri at 3.5 for the next three years over Rust at 3.5 this year?

Uh no.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Do you take Palmieri at 3.5 for the next three years over Rust at 3.5 this year?

no. Palms is waning.

Thank god we didn’t trade for him.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

It's pretty optimistic to assume a UFA with Palmieri's track record signs a 3 year deal for 3.5 mil per.

I could see him signing a one year prove it deal for that much.

 

[Peat]

Cause he's often hurt, he's 30, and his numbers are trending in a shitty direction? Kind of what everyone is afraid of with Rust?

Those two years aside, that's kinda Rust as well.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I'd only be comfortable doing this insane, never-gonna-happen move Rust endeavor if we land Hyman. Extremely similar production, works with elite talent, fills Rust's role while also bringing a physical edge. Saad's the fallback, but I don't think he's on the level of Rust or Hyman for a number of reasons.

 

[Gurglesons]

It's pretty optimistic to assume a UFA with Palmieri's track record signs a 3 year deal for 3.5 mil per.

I could see him signing a one year prove it deal for that much.

Why would UFA market change next year

 

[Peat]

Why would UFA market change next year

81.5m worth of new cap around the league plus a season of adjustment.

But, whatever adjustment shows in Palmieris next contract, shows in Rusts and probs a little extra unless there's a nice discount.