You would assume Sens would retain (if that's true). Sens fans (and everyone else) said they wouldn't retain but they did with Phaneuf. Sens will retain if they need to.
Dreger: Pittsburgh in on Brassard
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You would assume Sens would retain (if that's true). Sens fans (and everyone else) said they wouldn't retain but they did with Phaneuf. Sens will retain if they need to.
I think Brassard s a no brainer in theory. But the Sens will have a number of teams in the hunt. I suspect someone will offer an over payment ala Columbus for example. Pens can win a cup with a decent depth center who can play D and chip in with an occasional goal. Habs have a center who fits that description. Me I am not all in to that degree but GMJR may be.
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I don't see the Senators retaining on Brassard, I don't think they'd use a retention spot on Brassard when they could use it on someone else.
One positive about the Senators retaining on Brassard is that they're retaining less money than the cap hit. Retaining $1.5 million on his cap hit is only actually $1 million.
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They retained on Phaneuf cause it got the deal done while still saving millions.
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Because people aren't confident that the hot Sheahan from the last 3 months is what we'll get in the playoffs since it was preceded by 2 years of terrible play.
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Pittsburgh's projected deadline cap space measured in full cap hits: 1,773,998
Matt Hunwick's Cap Hit: 2,250,000
Total Cap Space Dumped=4023998
Derick Brassard's Cap Hit: 5,000,000
Difference In Cap=976002
The Penguins need to find a way to dump about 1M in cap space, or the Senators need to retain about 1M on Brassard. That's my conclusion if I am following the money right.
Retaining 1M of cap aka 20 percent on Brassard is only 700k in real cash next season.
gdsmack267
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A purely futures deal for Brassard would set up a similar scenario. The Sens could retain 20% (around a million between this year and next) and still save about 3.5M in the process.
I'm just not sure if Phaneuf was unique. You had to retain to move him. You don't have to do it for Brassard IMHO.
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Yep. Malkin part of the Brassard deal but Karlsson is added. Pens get Brassard AND Karlsson!clearly they are thinking about promoting sheahen to 2c and trading malkin
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Why? Many Pittsburgh fans like yourself are grossly overrating Daniel Sprong. His impact in this organization won't be anything, but a solid AHL player. If someone wants to give us a good 3C that is not a rental and the ask involves him, as long as the other assets aren't ludicrous, you deal him.
they probably have the pieces to get him but making it work cap wise would be a bitch
that'd be a huge get for them though. he's a proven playoff performer.
that'd be a huge get for them though. he's a proven playoff performer.
Don’t think Ottawa has much use for Sheary, but if we can flip him that would be fine. Maybe you guys can trade him in a separate move?
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A lot of smoke on this one.. If the Pens do get Brassard... they would have excellent C depth and would have to be cup favorites. I think he's be a tremendous fit there. Its just a matter of Pens clearing some cap space in the deal or outside the deal. I would definitely want at least a 1st and a high end prospect/young player coming back. A package like a 1st + Rust + Bellerive would be awesome if the Pens can move Hunwick or Cole elsewhere.
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This would be a dream acquisition but with the salary hang I think it would be difficult to pull off.
I’d be all over that. But not Aston Reese. A signed, young player with a lower prospect (though I like Dea) and a pick. Sheary has become a bit lost in the shuffle of Rust, Hagelin and Guentzel but he’s still talented and would probably thrive in Ottawa.
Ditto. I get why Rutherford would swing for the fences with this team right now but I would be loath to give up on Sprong already. Especially if that deal also includes the Pens first.
I’d be all over that. But not Aston Reese. A signed, young player with a lower prospect (though I like Dea) and a pick. Sheary has become a bit lost in the shuffle of Rust, Hagelin and Guentzel but he’s still talented and would probably thrive in Ottawa.
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To Dreger, any team inquiring about availability and possible price is “In on that player”
Pittsburgh likely just checking possible options league wide before the TDL
Pittsburgh likely just checking possible options league wide before the TDL
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Zero chance for Rust. He’s way too valuable to the Pens and their identity.
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I think the package is subject to the Pens interest in Brassard being extended to compliment Sid and Geno. GMJR is all in but I also think he is looking for a player that can be here more than next year. Sheary has to be included as Pens can afford his being moved. Not sure GMJR is moving Hunwick as he values goal tending and defensive depth. Has to be some verbal for now and terms agreed on if the Pens give up a first and Sprong and Sheary.
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