Proposal: PIT - VAN

[Gurglesons]

holy shit guys

Rutherford isn’t even the GM FFS

even pens fan is like “I’ve experienced this person once before therefore I know what’s happening and you don’t lalalsllalsla”

Not even the GM. ‍

Guess we will wait and see what Rutherford does.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Guess we will wait and see what Rutherford does.

Allvin* Stop being a doorknob lol

 

[Joe Rogan]

Pittsburgh should go all in. It's not like Crosby is tearing it up with his 6 points in his last 14 Playoff games

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

We want young, skilled players, prospects, and picks...no not like THAT!

Got it. Not defending the value of the OP as much as the replies make me think there will be disappointment with the return.

Why because most of us rational Canucks fans expect a return that both fills need and has value?

There won't be any disappointment if we don't trade him, which we are not under any pressure to do.

 

[Jerkbait]

Hextall doesn't have the guts to make a team altering trade. He comfortable signing ex players of his who didn't fit in anywhere else.

 

[Canuck Luck]

I guess it depends how you feel about Pacioretty's 17-18 season and goalscoring.

I think Miller is a perfect example of how a player will produce with big minutes. Especially on the powerplay. I'm not sure what he'd do on a deeper team. But, we have a reference for it with what he did in NYR and TBL.

If Miller is moved to any contender is he playing top power play minutes?

Curious to see why you think if miller is a byproduct of more minutes and pp points, why don’t these deeper teams have 4+ players in the top 10 scoring? They give their best players the same ice time and pp time.

maybe, just maybe, the acquiring team would realize miller would be one of their top 4 forwards and give him pp1 and similar 5 on 5 ice time?

I’d hope you weren’t in charge of my favourite team. Sounds like your decision would be to illogically say nahh let’s keep giving our non top 10 in scoring players that ice time instead because somehow they are more deserving and the results they’ve produced are somehow better.

 

[Ace of Hades]

JT Miller also isn’t Patches or Eichel.

And Tatar was awful prior to being traded.

Jt Miller is a better player than Pacioretty was when he got traded so your point is moot.

 

[66-30-33]

Allvin* Stop being a doorknob lol

He should target Simon from the Pens, it only makes sense.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yeah. I’m a Penguins fan and the value of this for Vancouver makes me wanna puke.

Yeah as Pens fan, we'd be insulted if anyone offered us similar. This is like Stojanov for Naslund levels of bad but the other way around.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Says the guy who tried to gaslight people who criticized Jim Benning and less than a year ago posted "Jim Benning has done a heck of a job over recent years." Lol your credibility is terrible.

I didn't know Jim Benning derangement syndrome was actually a diagnosis but hfcanucks makes it seem possible.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I didn't know Jim Benning derangement syndrome was actually a diagnosis but hfcanucks makes it seem possible.

I agree, having 8 years of data/results to go off but continuing to believe he was a good GM is pretty deranged. It has nothing to do with Benning and everything to do with your arrogance in pushing a terrible narrative that is disproven on all data available.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I agree, having 8 years of data/results to go off but continuing to believe he was a good GM is pretty deranged. It has nothing to do with Benning and everything to do with your arrogance in pushing a terrible narrative that is disproven on all data available.

You're literally depressing me here. It's not even remotely on topic.

I never said "Benning has done a great job" without qualifying it by picking a specific area like, 'with most of his first round picks' which I still believe.

I'm gathering you felt called out when I said those who knee-jerk wanted to move Pettersson (and before that Hughes) should maybe learn a little patience and humility, and instead have chosen to double down on...obsessing over someone who no longer works in the organization?

The bad man is gone, you can get out from under your bed now.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I never said "Benning has done a great job" without qualifying it by picking a specific area like, 'with most of his first round picks' which I still believe.

Nope, you constantly praised him and said he had done a "heck of a job in recent years" without qualifying it on certain aspects of his job.

It's on topic because it's hypocritical that you're calling out people out for having bad opinions when you've been just as guilty of this in the past. Even now, you can't admit you're wrong because your ego just gets in the way. It's annoying because I recall you belittling people on here who thought Benning was doing a poor job. Those people look to have been correct whereas you were wrong. Own it and move on rather than deflecting.

I'm gathering you felt called out when I said those who knee-jerk wanted to move Pettersson (and before that Hughes) should maybe learn a little patience and humility, and instead have chosen to double down on...obsessing over someone who no longer works in the organization?

Lol what? I never advocated for trading either of Hughes/Pettersson. Please do not make things up about me that are not true and are baseless accusations.

Once again, you're missing the point completely. It's not about Benning but rather how you spearheaded a terrible opinion for years, tried to gaslight people who disagreed with you, and are now pretending it never happened. It seems like you don't have integrity.

 

[Bizzare]

Miller's extremely reliant on power play production this year. Patches was a premier 5v5 goal scorer when moved outside of the 17-18 season.

That would be why I think Patches was better.

Have you actually looked up what you're saying? Or just pulling things out of thin air?

 

[bandwagonesque]

We want young, skilled players, prospects, and picks...no not like THAT!

Well, yes -- you hit the nail right on the head. We want young players, picks and prospects but not mediocre ones whose combined value objectively constitutes a poor return for Miller. I don't think there's a single Pittsburgh fan in this thread who thinks the original proposal is realistic, including the poster that made it.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Well, yes -- you hit the nail right on the head. We want young players, picks and prospects but not mediocre ones whose combined value objectively constitutes a poor return for Miller, which I think you and other Pens fans in this thread readily understand is an accurate description of the proposal.

Why this is so hard for other teams fans to grasp I have no idea.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Sure. JT Miller is a great player. The issue is players like Pacioretty and Eichel who were better at the time did not garner huge packages just like if JT Miller is moved he won't garner a huge package. Couple 1sts, a roster player like Kapanen or Chytil, and a prospect if you remove a 1st.

Your argument doesn't make much sense because the hypothetical packages you're mentioning are obviously far worse than the returns for Eichel or Pacioretty.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

As a completely unbiased, neutral fan, I say this a fantastic deal for both sides and it should be sent in for league approval immediately.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

Gross.

my first response was “eww” but I like yours better

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Nope, you constantly praised him and said he had done a "heck of a job in recent years" without qualifying it on certain aspects of his job.

It's on topic because it's hypocritical that you're calling out people out for having bad opinions when you've been just as guilty of this in the past. Even now, you can't admit you're wrong because your ego just gets in the way. It's annoying because I recall you belittling people on here who thought Benning was doing a poor job. Those people look to have been correct whereas you were wrong. Own it and move on rather than deflecting.



Lol what? I never advocated for trading either of Hughes/Pettersson. Please do not make things up about me that are not true and are baseless accusations.

Once again, you're missing the point completely. It's not about Benning but rather how you spearheaded a terrible opinion for years, tried to gaslight people who disagreed with you, and are now pretending it never happened. It seems like you don't have integrity.

LOL.
Thanks for making it clear that you aren't to be taken seriously.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

He should target Simon from the Pens, it only makes sense.

Theodore from Vegas also an option

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Deal. But drop Miller.

 

[PettersonHughes]

If anything I'd want Marino.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Kapanen+Marino+ZAR for Myers and Miller

 

[KrisLeturnover]

One of the worst proposals in recent memory.